I am thinking buying a "Super Flying Arrow" (SFA-1483S) from Wade Antenna and I would like to know if anyone is currently using this antenna.

Does the quality compare to Winegard or CM?

Thanks

Here's the Wade UHF antenna lineup with that one up top:

http://www.wade-antenna.com/UHFantennas.htm

I don't have any experience with that model.

Looks like they just copied the Channel Masters 4221

How tall is that mast you got the antenna on Kevin?

CM 4221
http://www.channelmaster.com/images/3021_4221.jpg

Yes, it looks identical to the 4221.

The mast is 20' I believe (didn't measure them - two sections), on top of a ~4' deck. I know what you are thinking - we will see what happens when we get our first wind storm!

It's anchored pretty good though. Metal strapping around the corner deck post in 3 spots, and I hole sawed about a half inch deep into the deck board for the mast to fit snug into as well. Here is another pic:

http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Members/85_SS/images/100_0646.JPG

Thanks for the link.

I am awaiting to hear what Wade has to say - I seem to get good reception on everything I should be getting, but I also want the best I can possibly get.

Still awaiting a response from Wade:confused:

I added some braces to my mast tonight. I don't think it was going anywhere the way it was, but this will keep it from swaying an a more stead signal :)

http://www.myonlineimages.com/Members/85_SS/images/100_0702.JPG

Does anyone have any experience with the Wade-Delhi 476 Preamplifier? If so, does it perform well on UHF?

I checked the Wade website and its noise figures (7.0 dB on UHF) are higher than the CM and Winegard preamps. Does such a high noise figure make this preamp useless for UHF?

I live in Oakville (3rd Line and Upper Middle) and I want to install my new CM 4221 (bought it from www.sensuz.com) in my attic. I have approximately 100' of cable running from the top floor of my house to the basement, so I think a preamp is necessary for my situation.

I tested the 4221 from a window on my 2nd floor and, sure enough, the signal was pretty weak by the time it reached the SIR-T451 on the 1st floor. I then tested the antenna from the same window with a short cable run to a nearby analog TV and the results were fantastic (WB 49 analog came in nearly perfect).

The only reason that I am interested in the Wade-Delhi and not the other brands is that I know Nutech in Hamilton carries the Wade-Delhi.

If anyone knows of any local stores that have a good preamp in stock please let me know. I've made some calls and so far no luck, other than Nutech of course.

Thanks

Todd

The noise figure is too high. Look for something around 2 dB or less.

The CM or Winegards are in this range.

I assume you are using RG6 cable.

By the way, I got my CM4228 and amp here:

RICH WERTMAN
R.W. ANTENNA SERVICE INC
6150 CROSBY RD
LOCKPORT,N.Y. 14094
716-434-9216
rwantsat@verizon.net

Yes I am using RG6. I will contact RW Antenna about a good quality preamp. Thanks Intrac.

I was going through the Wade website and I was wondering about the size of the 4bt-1483...

http://www.wade-antenna.com/Wade/UHF.htm

The Wade-Delhi 4BT-1483 is roughly 36 inches tall and 20 inches wide.

You could find it on www.wade-antenna.com But there's no gain chart...(Nothing usefull). Anyway I would not recommand it unless your in my situation.(Attic installation and I need Analog Low VHF for the other TV's). I would much more recommand a channel cut to VHF 13, 11 elements (There's also a 5 elements if space is a concern) you can have it at raybel they cost less than 100$ (If i remember well it's 65$ and 85$)


I still can't find it on the site (Delhi ZIP-8), you say you don't recommend it but you get 70% on ABC with it and i get 10%(so nothing) on ABC and we both live in St-Eustache. I'm on léveillé boul near the wallmart, so if you get good result i think would go for the same thing as you.

I still can't find it on the site (Delhi ZIP-8), you say you don't recommend it but you get 70% on ABC with it and i get 10%(so nothing) on ABC and we both live in St-Eustache. I'm on léveillé boul near the wallmart, so if you get good result i think would go for the same thing as you.
Here's the link http://www.wade-antenna.com/Wade/VIP%20&%20ZIP%20Antennas.pdf
I bought it at MontCalme, he made a price (The puro sticker on the box was dated 2002!. By the way i'm near you i'm on Clément near the school au coeur du boisé.

10% on ABC mean that most likely you don't have a VHF antenna. If I would have had the choice (Not having old analog tv I would have bought a channel 13 cut antenna. By the way the channel 13 antenna will do the job if and when TVA is on 10.

You could find it on www.wade-antenna.com (http://www.wade-antenna.com) But there's no gain chart...(Nothing usefull). Anyway I would not recommand it unless your in my situation.(Attic installation and I need Analog Low VHF for the other TV's). I would much more recommand a channel cut to VHF 13, 11 elements (There's also a 5 elements if space is a concern) you can have it at raybel they cost less than 100$ (If i remember well it's 65$ and 85$)



What do you mean? The CM-4221 (UHF) and the Delhi (VHF) are join together using a UFH/VHF combiner. The loss is impercetible for UHF (I did not try the VHF alone).

Ok Kro I still can't find the Delhi zip-8 on the site, so if i understand you right it's that antenna(delhi) that gives you the ABC channel? You say that you don't recommand it but you get a 70%+ reception result and I get nothing so i would rather go for something that i know that works for a St-Eustache citizen like me.

WatchmaN - zip-8 info:
http://www.wade-antenna.com/Wade/VIP%20&%20ZIP%20Antennas.pdf

Hello,

From the couple of actual pictures I've seen of the 4BT-1483 in various threads, it seems to be fairly similar to the CM 4221.

Are there any gain charts available for this antenna? I'm also interested in comparing how directionnal it is compared to the CM 4221, as I'm planning for a rotor-less installation.

Has anyone been able to compare actual results by switching between these two antennas?

Thanks!

In these HDTV Primer charts of raw and net gain you'll see items B (CM4221) and F (Winegard PR-4400). These are both 4-bay bowtie reflector UHF antennas. Unfortunately the Wade-Delhi competitor was not tested. You'll find that the Wade-Delhi 4BT-1483 (and under its many rebrand names) is very comparable in reception, beam pattern, and size to the CM4221. Between the three antennas I don't find that there's much difference in performance, but the CM tends to lead across almost the whole UHF spectrum by a small amount. Item R is the Terrestrial Digital DB-4, another 4-bay bowtie reflector, and you can see from its poor lower channel performance why I never recommend it.

You can be very content and satisfied with a Wade Delhi 4BT-1483. :)

http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/GainUHFraw.gif

http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/GainUHFnet.gif

Delhi OTA Antennas are made in Brantford, ON by Wade. They are top quality.

So does anyone have any tips on aiming the 5 element antenna for channel 13?

I imagine the Wade Yagi 5y13s is directional? What is the orienation on these antennas? What's front and what's back? Also I installed it upside down, I assume that has no impact? But can someone confirm this.

It is currently installed on a seperate mast from the 4221, but very close by. I will move it 4-5 feet away tonight and try again.

Yes, it is very directional. To aim your 5y13s see this image. The front of the antenna is pointing at a station that is in the direction of the upper right:
http://www.wade-antenna.com/Wade/images/YagiAntenna.jpg
The back of the antenna is to the lower left.

The TV stations and the antenna use horizontal polarity, so that means that the antenna theoretically works exactly the same if it is rotated along its central spar exactly 180 degrees. I would never install an antenna upside down because manufacturers sometimes use rivets that have rounded heads at the top that rain will not accumulate on. If you put the antenna upside down and there are rivet-ends upwards they may accumulate water and thus begin to erode or rust. Also some antennas have attachments like baluns, etc. that need to be on the bottom for ease of connection and for water resistance.