: Samsung LNS4092D - Good Used Value?


Clutch
2007-04-14, 12:53 AM
I had a Westinghouse LTV-32W1, but sold it above what I paid :p after I found it just wasn't what I wanted. In the meantime I purchased a JVC CRT to hold me off until I bought a new LCD replacement.

This just came up, and I will buy it Monday if its worth the risk. I spoke with a young guy who is selling his Samsung LNS4092D. His parents bought him a 50" Plasma for graduation and he feels that he doesn't want this Samsung anymore :eek:

He still has his receipt, and the tv comes with a three year futureshop warranty. I threw him a low offer and he is willing to take it unless someone buys it for more this weekend. I offered $1250 cash. This comes with a Monster HDMI cable (retailed for almost $200). He just wants it gone to make room for his new plasma. Its in great condition and is two months old. The tv seems to get great reviews from what I can see online.

This sound good? He is also willing to throw in a Samsung 1000watt system for a total of $1550. I declined him though, I already have a basic setup for now.

Overall though, for $1250, The 92D, 3 year Warranty, and HDMI cable. This setup would cost me (as of this writing) around $2500 new. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, I'm just worried about some unseen/unknown risk with this LCD model. There are a ton of Lemons out there afterall! :cool:

57
2007-04-14, 01:15 AM
Be aware that an HDMI cable is worth about $20, because that's what you can purchase it for from a computer store, or even less from an online store. There is no need or extra benefit from a Mon$ter cable. See below:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=30452

Although $1250 is probably not a bad price, there are Samsung LCD 40" selling for as little as $1400 new, plus tax at Costco (I believe the 4041). Even at FS & BB, there are several for around $1700-1900 currently and less when you wait for a sale.

The current price on the 4092 and the "1000W" System is $1999 as soon as you log into the FS website.

Clutch
2007-04-14, 01:28 AM
I'm not totally set on getting a HDMI cable right now, either way, its only $50 and I don't have to buy online or go out of my way even more to a store. Seeing how I don't drive currently. If I didn't buy this LCD on Monday, I was looking into a Sony KDF46E2000. That would be closer to $1400 after taxes though, and it wouldn't have that handy 3 year warranty.

That Samsung is still retailing rather high through a local futureshop store. Currently at $1999cdn. A 3 year warranty is over $300, so I'm more concerned over overall value. Sure I can buy a $1400 LCD new, but after taxes etc its more like $1800. Compare that to $1250.

Those warranties have their value in the fact that when the tv goes, I can get a replacement model that is newer, and a better value if they can't replace the broken model in that time due to a discontinuation or brand drop.

57
2007-04-14, 01:45 AM
Is the Warranty transferrable? If not, it has no value. Check the fine print very carefully.

Warranties are dubious value. Although it may cost $300, the value may be very little:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=17872

For example, would you extend a one year warranty to 3 years on a vehicle worth $30,000 for a cost of roughly $9000? The ratio is the same when you take into account the fact that a replacement LCD in a year or two will be under $1k. ($300 for two years of warranty on a 'future' $1000 item)

Edit - If you used a premium credit card as discussed in the link above to double the warranty, the $300 is only buying one year of warranty, 2 years out, when a similar TV will probably be selling for $500-$800.

As indicated in my previous post (added probably while you were typing), that 4092 for $1999 includes the "1000W" System. What would the price be without?

Clutch
2007-04-14, 01:57 AM
The warranty is transferable. I wouldn't have put an offer on this LCD if it wasn't. Also, that deal with the surround sound system: The surround sound system is basically included at no extra cost. The TV sells for $1999 regular price. The system is just included extra, this price is the same most everywhere in stores. I called a local store, and they had the same price as futureshop only they don't include the sound system.

57
2007-04-14, 02:04 AM
Looks like you have made up your mind and have justified your decision with various values attached to items that I would not place any (or very little) value on. FS "regular prices" are not really good value. Many people wait for a sale if they're purchasing an individual item.

Good luck with your purchase.

Clutch
2007-04-14, 02:10 AM
I buy and sell quite a bit, so this warranty will add to its resale value when I sell it to some guy. If I don't sell it, I keep it. :D

Bobvan
2007-04-14, 01:09 PM
I do to but when it comes to elecronics i prefer to go new, just so you know the extended part on your warranty is a 3rd party home service I think if your panel was replaced it would be with a refurb and not a new one. Take my case with my Toshiba TV I bought in in November, it had to be replaced twice (Once cause they brought a faulty replacement) and now needs to be again and it looks like I am getting a FULL refund.

DavidY
2007-04-14, 02:03 PM
As a general rule, I don't buy used or demo/floor TVs....only new or something that I know about the history. TVs on the floor can be on 24/7. $1250 for a used 40 inch TV isn't that great of a deal IMO. FWIW, a new 37 inch Sharp Aquos goes as low as $1300 plus taxes.

Dave

Clutch
2007-04-14, 05:41 PM
A Sharp 37" for $1300 with taxes, let me guess, this is online?

DavidY
2007-04-14, 08:02 PM
Nope....but the retailer is typically having a hard time to keeping the 37D43 in stock. Taxes were not included in my earlier post.

asif9t9
2007-04-14, 08:25 PM
I'll tell you what you want to hear. $1250 cash for the 4092D is a great deal. Period. The warranty is irrelevant. The HTIB is unnecessary if you already have an HT system. Give him $1250 and take it. If he's really your buddy, you can use his receipt for Samsung's warranty if it ever comes up.

kev604
2007-04-15, 01:23 AM
$1250 is too much. Personally I would offer him $999 max.

Clutch
2007-04-17, 09:49 AM
Well I bought the Samsung. $1200, and with that I got a 3 year warranty, and that HDMI cable for free. I came so close to buying that Sony, but after seeing it in stores, I walked away unimpressed.