: Samsung LNS4092D - Good Used Value?
2007-04-14, 01:53 AM
I had a Westinghouse LTV-32W1, but sold it above what I paid :p after I found it just wasn't what I wanted. In the meantime I purchased a JVC CRT to hold me off until I bought a new LCD replacement.
This just came up, and I will buy it Monday if its worth the risk. I spoke with a young guy who is selling his Samsung LNS4092D. His parents bought him a 50" Plasma for graduation and he feels that he doesn't want this Samsung anymore :eek:
He still has his receipt, and the tv comes with a three year futureshop warranty. I threw him a low offer and he is willing to take it unless someone buys it for more this weekend. I offered $1250 cash. This comes with a Monster HDMI cable (retailed for almost $200). He just wants it gone to make room for his new plasma. Its in great condition and is two months old. The tv seems to get great reviews from what I can see online.
This sound good? He is also willing to throw in a Samsung 1000watt system for a total of $1550. I declined him though, I already have a basic setup for now.
Overall though, for $1250, The 92D, 3 year Warranty, and HDMI cable. This setup would cost me (as of this writing) around $2500 new. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, I'm just worried about some unseen/unknown risk with this LCD model. There are a ton of Lemons out there afterall! :cool:
Be aware that an HDMI cable is worth about $20, because that's what you can purchase it for from a computer store, or even less from an online store. There is no need or extra benefit from a Mon$ter cable. See below:
Although $1250 is probably not a bad price, there are Samsung LCD 40" selling for as little as $1400 new, plus tax at Costco (I believe the 4041). Even at FS & BB, there are several for around $1700-1900 currently and less when you wait for a sale.
The current price on the 4092 and the "1000W" System is $1999 as soon as you log into the FS website.
2007-04-14, 02:28 AM
I'm not totally set on getting a HDMI cable right now, either way, its only $50 and I don't have to buy online or go out of my way even more to a store. Seeing how I don't drive currently. If I didn't buy this LCD on Monday, I was looking into a Sony KDF46E2000. That would be closer to $1400 after taxes though, and it wouldn't have that handy 3 year warranty.
That Samsung is still retailing rather high through a local futureshop store. Currently at $1999cdn. A 3 year warranty is over $300, so I'm more concerned over overall value. Sure I can buy a $1400 LCD new, but after taxes etc its more like $1800. Compare that to $1250.
Those warranties have their value in the fact that when the tv goes, I can get a replacement model that is newer, and a better value if they can't replace the broken model in that time due to a discontinuation or brand drop.
Is the Warranty transferrable? If not, it has no value. Check the fine print very carefully.
Warranties are dubious value. Although it may cost $300, the value may be very little:
For example, would you extend a one year warranty to 3 years on a vehicle worth $30,000 for a cost of roughly $9000? The ratio is the same when you take into account the fact that a replacement LCD in a year or two will be under $1k. ($300 for two years of warranty on a 'future' $1000 item)
Edit - If you used a premium credit card as discussed in the link above to double the warranty, the $300 is only buying one year of warranty, 2 years out, when a similar TV will probably be selling for $500-$800.
As indicated in my previous post (added probably while you were typing), that 4092 for $1999 includes the "1000W" System. What would the price be without?
2007-04-14, 02:57 AM
The warranty is transferable. I wouldn't have put an offer on this LCD if it wasn't. Also, that deal with the surround sound system: The surround sound system is basically included at no extra cost. The TV sells for $1999 regular price. The system is just included extra, this price is the same most everywhere in stores. I called a local store, and they had the same price as futureshop only they don't include the sound system.
Looks like you have made up your mind and have justified your decision with various values attached to items that I would not place any (or very little) value on. FS "regular prices" are not really good value. Many people wait for a sale if they're purchasing an individual item.
Good luck with your purchase.
2007-04-14, 03:10 AM
I buy and sell quite a bit, so this warranty will add to its resale value when I sell it to some guy. If I don't sell it, I keep it. :D
2007-04-14, 02:09 PM
I do to but when it comes to elecronics i prefer to go new, just so you know the extended part on your warranty is a 3rd party home service I think if your panel was replaced it would be with a refurb and not a new one. Take my case with my Toshiba TV I bought in in November, it had to be replaced twice (Once cause they brought a faulty replacement) and now needs to be again and it looks like I am getting a FULL refund.
2007-04-14, 03:03 PM
As a general rule, I don't buy used or demo/floor TVs....only new or something that I know about the history. TVs on the floor can be on 24/7. $1250 for a used 40 inch TV isn't that great of a deal IMO. FWIW, a new 37 inch Sharp Aquos goes as low as $1300 plus taxes.
2007-04-14, 06:41 PM
A Sharp 37" for $1300 with taxes, let me guess, this is online?
2007-04-14, 09:02 PM
Nope....but the retailer is typically having a hard time to keeping the 37D43 in stock. Taxes were not included in my earlier post.
2007-04-14, 09:25 PM
I'll tell you what you want to hear. $1250 cash for the 4092D is a great deal. Period. The warranty is irrelevant. The HTIB is unnecessary if you already have an HT system. Give him $1250 and take it. If he's really your buddy, you can use his receipt for Samsung's warranty if it ever comes up.
2007-04-15, 02:23 AM
$1250 is too much. Personally I would offer him $999 max.
2007-04-17, 10:49 AM
Well I bought the Samsung. $1200, and with that I got a 3 year warranty, and that HDMI cable for free. I came so close to buying that Sony, but after seeing it in stores, I walked away unimpressed.