: Should Imus' "nappy head ho's" comment lead to his firing?


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HDGeorge
2007-04-11, 04:52 PM
Maybe if the black rap artists cleaned up their act Imus would have not known what a "ho" is.

brd13
2007-04-11, 09:31 PM
He falls into the "shock jock" category albeit a little older version.... and that what they do...... and he and others have been doing it a long time

hockeymancw
2007-04-12, 10:16 AM
Watching this balloon is actually infuriating. I watch Imus nearly every morning on MSNBC and he does a comedy radio show. Yes, the comments were hurtful to the Rutgers players, but in context, it was a funny line. You don't expect someone like Imus to pull a Spike Lee reference. He wasn't taking anything away from what the team accomplished, he was making a joke on how they looked compared to the other team.
Now you have these media-whores Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson calling for him to be fired because he degraded these women, but there are so many other more influential sources that they don't touch: rap music, black comedians, movies that tell these women that they are a disgrase to their race if they go to school, that it is cool to get girls pregnant and run off, that they should be in gangs and that it is ok to use and sell drugs. It is a lot harder to go after 50 cent than Imus. Now the Rutgers coach, Vivan whatever, is going on and on about how this wrecked their season. First, she is using this to recruit more players and 2, their season was only wrecked because this was blown up in the media. Today on MSNBC (instead of Imus in the Morning) you have the Urban Womans representative saying that she is Nappy and Happy and that the whites have made it impossible for black women to feel pretty and Imus' comments just reinforce their point. Whoopie Goldberg says that this comedy isn't funny, but didn't she bring out Ted Danson in blackface a few years back?
Even when you look at Imus' back ground with all the time and money he has given to children with cancer with his ranch (and he said 10% of his kids on the ranch are black) and he is an environmentalist (with his green to clean products). People are calling him a racist and a bigot, but if you seen his show, he is constantly making derogatory comments towards everyone regarless of race. If any group of people should be angry with Imus, it should be the obese. The sports reports rarely get read without a fat joke or a joke about not being able to please his wife. This is the show. Wheather you like it or not, Imus' show is based on this type of comedy.
I wonder how the Autism people feel about Imus being fired, he was a huge supporter of them and his show increased awareness.
I find this whole thing just blown up too fast. I would bet that anyone on this Rutgers team had never even heard of Imus before Wednesday and are not seeing the context in which these comments were said.

Nice of MSNBC to cancel him on the day of his radiothon for children with cancer.

eljay
2007-04-12, 11:03 AM
Imus Got His Trash Talk Pass Yanked, Now Yank it for Blacks Who Talk The Same (http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/50407/)

james99
2007-04-12, 11:27 AM
I respect a person more if they stand up to their original comments rather than saying I'm sorry to anybody that will listen.

Hey, if it was a joke that went bad then say so. End of story. Don't beg for forgiveness.

CamG
2007-04-12, 11:58 AM
Just heard on the news that MSNBC just dropped his program for good....

mark
2007-04-12, 12:37 PM
I made a donation to support Don and his telethon. I find it deplorable that MSNBC would cancel his show right before the start of the 18th annual event.

Dear Friend,

Thank you for your generous of gift in support of the 18th Annual WFAN Radiothon! We appreciate your donation on behalf of the CJ Foundation for SIDS, Tomorrow's Childrens Fund, and The Imus Ranch. Your involvement puts us closer to our goals: to ensure the continuity of life in its earliest stages and the treatment and eventual elimination of childhood cancer. Please spread the word about this important fundraising effort to your friends and colleagues by simply forwarding this e-mail message or giving them the Web address below: www.wfan.com

Thanks again,

Don Imus

hugh
2007-04-12, 01:19 PM
Hey, if it was a joke that went bad then say so. End of story. Don't beg for forgiveness.

Interesting you should say that because if he had words to that effect then I probably would have argued for the suspension rather than firing. The whole thing really blew up in his face after he tried to wiggle out of it and how he tried to deflect the crap off of himself and onto others.

I'm tired of fake apologies and celebrities who go into "rehab" after doing really stupid stuff.

england
2007-04-12, 01:37 PM
Just heard on the news that MSNBC just dropped his program for good....
You heard right mate

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070412/D8OEP84G0.html

http://youtube.com/watch?v=q2M_XY2__ng

england
2007-04-12, 01:40 PM
Rosie O defended him. No surprise since her comments are more shocking than his.

He should do the popular thing and go into rehab for 2 weeks and suddenly be cured.
Trust Rosie to try and get some air time on this

http://newsbusters.org/stories/rosie_defends_don_imus.html?q=node/11950

starchoice
2007-04-12, 02:22 PM
Just heard that the Rutgers team and the coach are goint to appear on Oprah. Oh, brother!

Keith Olbermann interviewed the coach via telephone yesterday on Countdown. She said that they are looking forward to meeting with Imus to put a face to the remarks. Obviously, all this info generated was second hand for them and taken out-of-context.

Put it to bed!

james99
2007-04-12, 02:31 PM
Well, it was certain they wouldn't appear on The View :)

england
2007-04-12, 02:42 PM
Howard Stern is loving all this from what I hear :D

JesseJ
2007-04-12, 08:24 PM
Fi-ired...See ya loser.

Edit:
Yes, the comments were hurtful to the Rutgers players, but in context, it was a funny line.
Yes, racism is funny isn't it.

james99
2007-04-12, 08:29 PM
If Imus was black, would this even be a story?

mark
2007-04-13, 03:05 AM
Imus isn't the real bad guy

Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture.
By JASON WHITLOCK - Columnist

Thank you, Don Imus. You’ve given us (black people) an excuse to avoid our real problem. You’ve given Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson another opportunity to pretend that the old fight, which is now the safe and lucrative fight, is still the most important fight in our push for true economic and social equality.

You’ve given Vivian Stringer and Rutgers the chance to hold a nationally televised recruiting celebration expertly disguised as a news conference to respond to your poor attempt at humor. Thank you, Don Imus. You extended Black History Month to April, and we can once again wallow in victimhood, protest like it’s 1965 and delude ourselves into believing that fixing your hatred is more necessary than eradicating our self-hatred.

The bigots win again. (http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html)

england
2007-04-13, 07:38 AM
If Imus was black, would this even be a story?
If he was black and holding down that role, he won't have said it I don't think. There are a number of black sports presenters or co-presenters, and they don't come out with comments like that either to a black player or white player.

It always seems to be the white ones that can't see past the whole black thing.

england
2007-04-13, 12:42 PM
Only in America, look at what theya re selling now


http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q='nappy-headed+ho%22+t-shirt&hl=en&safe=off&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-37,GGLD:en&um=1&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title

hockeymancw
2007-04-13, 02:29 PM
Imus' show was not a news or sports show. It was a comedy talk show that focused a lot on politics and promoting green to clean, autism research, SIDS research and cancer research. But it was a comedy show. If a sportscaster or news show had made these comments, I would be more open to hearing the argument of a suspension or firing.

england
2007-04-13, 02:56 PM
Bollocks.....so you are saying some people can say misogynistic things just because they are on a comedy show and others can't? I guess they should allow every soap or sitcom to start putting women down and making racial comments? :rolleyes:

There is no half way between, you either ban it in general or you don't. Am beginning to think people that support what the guy said subscribe to that sort of thing, and I'll like to think am wrong.

How about we just all start making comments not just about race, but about people from a certain background or country, and see how long it takes to offend somebody, and by that I mean people's origin even if you or your folks were born in Canada? I know for sure a lot of people with Eastern European background won't be happy with certain things that might be said. I don't care if Imus supported sick kids, so did mother Theresa, but I don't think she would have said such a thing.