I read in a different forum that the reason why none of this year's recorders can output in true HD is that the chip of choice (LSI Domino 3) can either have one analog and one digital SD output or only one digital HD output. Since the recorders need an analog SD output for the S-VIDEO and Composite outputs, they have to configure it in SD mode (they could use an external down converter chip but that would add to the cost).

LSI is apparently working on solving this problem in the next generation of chip (Domino 5), which will be in next year's recorders.

For a complete technical explanation from a chip designer at LSI see the post by dr1394 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10567488&&#post10567488).

Just read an article in the Globe and Mail (ROB August 23) about Sony launching PlayTV in Europe. The following is an excerpt:Using a format known in Europe as Digital Video Broadcasting — Terrestrial, the PlayTV integrates into the PlayStation 3 console and lets users record individual episodes or entire series to its hard drive.

Sony said the device's twin TV tuners are high-definition ready and able to view, record and play back in that format. Recorded video can be sent wirelessly from the console to a PSP.Sigh. Once again, North America gets the short-end of the stick.

Going to Buffalo for Wedding Anniversary, I was thinking that since im going to be there, maybe I could get a DVR10 or something similar. I need to know if this is something that I can goto there K-mart or Wallmart stores. I Cant seem to find it in the websites listed.

Dont bother, Im going this morning.:(

I also see that The Source has a similar (without VCR) unit as item #1615664. I was unable to find a store with stock, but the website seemed to have availability. Future Shop has the same unit listed as well, but is listed as Web only, and sold out.

Any experience on this unit out there?

Do any of you have any experience or comments on the Panasonic DMR EZ37VK?

Link to PDF of owners manual: http://static.tigerdirect.ca/pdf/Panasonic-DMR-EZ37VK-Manual.pdf

The last we heard here about that unit at The Source was in Post #43 so I wonder if anyone bought one?

I purchased the EZ27 model from Future Shop. It languished in F.S. limbo for 2 weeks, then to a Canada Post sorting plant for almost 3 more weeks, at which point they deemed it lost! I have three theories. 1. These ATSC tuner optioned devices don't really exist in their inventory. 2. Robin Hood has taken over Canada Post. C.P. now has the track record of the Polish Postal service circa 1984. Of the three items I have had shipped via their method in the last 10 mos, they have "lost" two of them. For a baseball player a .333 batting average is pretty good. It if ever arrives I'll repost with my opinion. Same with that book I ordered last Christmas. 3. ExpressVu and Rogers special agents have infiltrated C.P. and are redirecting any package with an "HDTV" or "ATSC" sticker on it to Helsinki.

It if ever arrives I'll repost
Becarefull that they don't charge you for storage....:rolleyes:

I spent last week in Lehigh Valley, PA. Went into BestBuy to browse. Couldn't take my eyes off the stacks and stacks of ATSC DVRs and DVD recorders. Be patient.... they'll be coming north eventually.

I like this one (http://www.tvix.co.kr/Eng/products/HDM4000.aspx) I wonder if there's other product like this. (It's still cost to much but I gues it will eventually cost a lot less.)

Hi - newbie, so please bear with me ....

I'm looking for an digital HD receiver/tuner with DVD record capability and "TIVO-ish" qualities. I don't have an HD tv so I don't think I can get a regular ol' ASTC receiver... can I? are there units with analog or S-video out?

WalMart in the USA sells a Magnavox H2080MW8 which would be perfect for me I think - an 80GB hard drive, and ASTC receiver with analog out, plus it has an analog receiver for regular TV signals like TVO broadcasts here.

Any suggestions on a similar unit that can be bought in Canada?

The WalMart in my area has a DVD/Recorder/Hard drive thing, but it contains no tuner of any sort...

thanks.

How do you plan to receive your signals? Are you planning to only use an antenna or are you going to use a service provider like Cable or Satellite?

Unless you erect a huge antenna, I don't believe you'll be receiving much in Lindsay on ATSC. See the following for OTA results in your area:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=43167

OTA- I have a 50' antenna with VHF and UHF and a channelmaster rotor etc...as does every house on my street- they never did run cable to this area.
I'm on a hill, and on lake Scugog facing SE. I can get 8 or 10 stations clear enough to watch analog. I suspect I can get a handful of digital ones to lock in (if that's what it does...? lock in?)
That other thread is what has me wanting to try OTA - very positive results from what i see there.

I hafta drive to Buffalo I guess to get one of these- seems a bit crazy...
anyone else want one?
help pay for gas?

Hystat,

If you read through the thread, you'll see there are various options. One option is the Phillips 3575H - it has a 160gb hard drive, an ATSC tuner (in SD only), and is also a DVD recorder. It costs about $300. I have one of these. It has similar functions as TiVo with 2 significant exceptions:
(1) no Electronic Programming Guide, so you'll be programming it like a VCR (however, you can still pause "live" TV), and
(2) the unit is NOT user friendly. I was hoping to get rid of our Rogers PVR and go solely OTA with this unit. However, I realise now that my wife would not use the 3575H because it is too complicated.

Another option is TiVo itself. The TiVo HD is available from TigerDirect for $365+monthly subscription (about $13/month). The TiVo HD has dual HD ATSC tuners. Once again, you can search through this thread for DHC users' opinions: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=30581

Thanks Gary- good to know there are others....after pricing and sourcing these units, I have decided to get what I want in 2 chunks....chunk 1 is a LITEON HDA740GX dvd recorder/burner w/160GB hard drive I found in a back dusty corner of the Peterborough Wal-Mart (rolled back to half price!- the clerk said "what is this thing? I didn't even know we had this"...it has only an NSTC tuner but then for chunk 2- I have bought a used ASTC tuner off eBay.

I was at the Toshiba HD-DVD event in Markham this past Saturday. (more info here (http://digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=73810))

Although it wasn't a showcase item, they had set up in the lobby this monster - the RD-A1 (http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2006_06/pr2201.htm):

http://www.hdready.hu/userfiles/Image/HD_DVD_players/tosh_rd-a1.jpg

Although it is primarily an HD DVD player, it boasts a 1 TeraByte HDD capacity!! I'm not sure if that is one drive, or multiple drives.
The tuner is the Japanese standard - ISDB-T, so it won't work for OTA in North America, which uses ATSC. However, Manny, the Toshiba rep I talked to said it is possible we might see something like this in N.A. in the future. When I pressed him on a time line, he shrugged and said he didn't really know but maybe in about 4 years...???

BTW, it cost them $4000 to ship it here !!

As of July 2007, the MSRP in Japan is 398,000 Yen, which is ~ $ 3400.00 Cdn!! .....Uhmm, soon it will be time to raid my kid's piggy-banks....

If you are a Wooter (woot-dot-com: electronics - one deal a day - but only for a day), and you have a US postal address to ship it to, take a look at today's (Nov. 30th/2007) "deal":

Polaroid DVD Recorder with 160GB Hard Drive and ATSC Tuner model: DRA-01601A - $99.

A quick search produced mixed reviews, some very poor. Unfortunately, it only outputs at 480p, so for me it isn't worth considering. As well, I'm skeptical about the build quality of Polaroid products - I actually have a Polaroid under counter 7" TV in the kitchen.

Thought I'd mention it anyway however, even if this post actually belongs in the "What not to buy thread" :(

Here is a list of major brand ATSC Tuner-equipped DVD Recorders/Players/VCR Combos on the market as of December, 2007. This list is by no means comprehensive, so if you see other brands/models please post the info in this thread.

JVC
DR-MV99Panasonic
DMR-EZ17
DMR-EZ27
DMR-EZ37V
DMR-EZ47VSamsung
DVD-AR650
DVD-VR357
DVD-V6700
DVD-V9700Toshiba
D-VR650

Here is a list I got from Wikipedia, so they may not all be available in Canada:

LG Electronics

DR787T
DR797TPanasonic

DMR-EZ17
DMR-EZ27
DMR-EZ37V
DMR-EZ47VMagnavox

ZC352MW8
ZV450MW8Philips

DVDR3505
DVDR3575H/37Polaroid

DRA-01601ASamsung

AR650
AVR950Sony

RDR-GXD455Sylvania

ZC350SL8RCA

DRC8335Toshiba

D-R550
D-VR650