: ATSC DVR & PVR Recorders
2011-06-17, 06:06 PM
Hi Stampeder, thanks , that is good info. Fom one of tbe postings there I have noted one poster mentioned that his TV can extract about 12 hours of the EPG in advance - not sure if that was a TV limitation or a broadcaster limitation. I was hoping to steer this into a discussion toward this units capability to extracting and updating the EPG from the PSIP data by first determining the broadcasters' limits.
My second question is kind of answered in one of the specification downloads - the external harddrive is formatted according to the standard Windows base hard drives formats - FAT32 & NTFS. So I believe there would be a good chance that one will be able to read the recorded file on a Windows based PC. (Unlike my Bell PVR HDD)
In the end I guess the proof will be in the pudding for both questions.
2011-07-16, 01:37 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows about an OTA-to-HDMI HD converter that has the capability of adding an external HDD to transform it into a PVR.
I am planning to cancel my Bell satellite subscription and I would like to re-use the 1TB HDDs that I currently have hooked to the 6141 receivers.
Is there such a device?
2011-07-16, 02:15 PM
The following OTA PVR can take an external USB drive
DViCO TVix 6620n (available from New Egg Canada)
Brite-View BV-980H (available from The Source)
2011-07-17, 02:30 PM
Thanks very much, but I think I did not express myself clearly. Apologies.
I am actually looking for an OTA receiver that is NOT a PVR but would accept an USB external HDD to transform it into a PVR. This would be similar to my 6141s that I plan to retire. I could not afford to buy OTAs with PVRs, unfortunately.
Any more ideas?...
2011-07-17, 04:57 PM
If you've got a relatively recent computer, just add a TV tuner card and plug the USB hard drives into the comp. I actually disected my external drive and used the drive inside my HTPC...
2011-07-17, 07:00 PM
was gonna suggest the same thing. Could make a decent Home Theatre with terrabyte drives.
There's plenty of hardware devices to choose from. An HD Homerun is a cool device.
ATSC PCI cards (http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_PCI_Cards)
ATSC PCIe cards (http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_PCIe_Cards)
ATSC USB Devices (http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices)
ATSC Network Attached Devices (http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_Network_Attached_Devices)
2011-07-27, 08:56 AM
My final pull of the plug on Bell is approaching and the apparent release at the end of the summer of this new product from ePVision is going to be just on time. It should have been released last year but, from the comments that I have seen on other forums I believe the developers were trying to optimize the design to get as much bang for the buck as possible and to address the feedback that they have been receiving from potential customers.
Key Technical Features:
432 MHz MIPS CPU
Best-in-class video quality:
Video scaling and enhancements output
Multimedia from USB:
a) JPEG View Controls:
b) MP3 Player
DTV Programs Transport Stream (TS) data
contents recording and playing back from
ATSC/QAM Dual RF Inputs
1x HDMI (up to 720p/1080i/1080p) output
1x Digital Optical (SPDIF) output
1x USB port for recording/playing TS files.
Front Panel key controls
IR Remote Control
You could sign up on their web site to get a preview discount coupon - not exactly sure what that is or what the final selling price is going to be.
2011-07-27, 09:24 PM
It's great to see that more standalone PVR/DVR options for OTA viewers are becoming available.
2011-08-26, 01:48 PM
Just noticed that The Source is now carrying in its online shop the Bright-View 980H OTA Digital TV Recorder. 320GB hard drive and USB for 2TB external drive. http://www.thesource.ca/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=DigitalCable&product=1535503
2011-08-31, 09:36 PM
Now that my local CTV station (CKCO) has transitioned to digital...I just have to say how excited I am that I can finally record my local news on my digital-only CM7000DTVPal!!!!
2011-09-06, 02:01 PM
I wonder if our proud forum sponsor will be carrying the new HDHomeRun Tech 3?? Dual ATSC tuners and more. But quite the price tag at $299 US...
2011-09-12, 06:48 PM
My friend is looking for an ATSC PVR Recorder that would also be able
to record from other sources.
In fact he was looking to find a fully loaded box with:
- Playback MKV/AVI/MPG (Media Player)
- Recording from OTA / VHS Player / DVD player
- OTA receiver
Any full package available?
2011-09-12, 06:56 PM
You are likely going to need a PC to do all of those as I believe most standalone ATSC PVRs don't offer any other functionality - except a TiVo.
2011-09-12, 06:57 PM
An HTPC will easily do all that. In fact if he's got a computer that's even remotely recent, he can jut buy an ATSC tuner card that also has AV inputs. The inputs will record from the VHS, a built in DVD drive would be best for ripping DVDs, and the tuner card will allow playing and recording of OTA broadcasts.
I believe there are other options available, but I've tried a few and prefer the flexibility of an HTPC. Plus storage is so cheap, I can't stand that Telus wants $250 for an HD PVR with a 320 GB hard drive. They say "And with a 320GB hard drive, it's the only HD PVR you'll need."... Please!!! I've got a 1.5 Tb drive in my HTPC dedicated to PVR usage and I've filled about 700 Gb of it... If I ever fill that another $50-75 buys me another or bigger drive. :D
2011-09-12, 09:36 PM
I've got a TVIX R3310 PVR that will do everything except .MKV files. You can plug a DVD or VCR into the audio/video input and record to mpeg. They have newer units that also do .MKV files. A few notes on these units, you can buy without HDD and add after. I added 1TB green low energy drive. ATSC tuner on R3310 not bad but not as good as most new TV's. New units may be better. Firmware on these units is buggy and you may have to try different versions to get everything working. Mine works fine, and I know how to work around any of the bugs. Also these units are not real cheap. They are a very nice media player and PVR that can be networked to a PC. It all works nicely on a remote and uses PSIP EPG for recording or set like VCR time and channel.
2011-09-14, 01:15 PM
Looks like next gen DVR by Channel Master with WIFI
View and record local over-the-air digital broadcast
The most HD movies streaming on demand (Vudu™)
Highest quality HD movie streaming available (1080p) by Vudu™
Records digital TV and HDTV
Dual Tuned DVR allowing two programs to record simultaneously
Pausing, fast forward and rewind functions
Electronic programming guide and TV guide functions
Social networking + photo sharing apps (Picasa™, Flickr ™)
Advanced search features, schedule recordings, and parental control settings
Dolby® Digital and Dolby® Digital Plus
Dual ATSC/Clear QAM¹
No monthly subscription fee
Includes a one year manufacturer's limited warranty
320GB Hard Disk Drive²
Up to 35 hours of HD recording³
Up to 150 hours of SD recording³
10(w) x 7(d) x 1.75(h) inches
Rear Panel Features
Digital Audio (Optical)
RF antenna/cable input
RCA component and composite video
Front Panel Features
Illuminated power standby button
Indicators for network status, HD and recording status
¹ Clear QAM support varies city by city, check your cable provider for compatibility.
² Recording capacity is an estimate and depends on the type of programming being recorded.
³ Recording hours are estimated and subject to change.
Requires an antenna for free broadcast TV.
Requires a broadband Internet connection for web movies and apps.
CM 7400 Brochure
CM 7400 Product Sheet
2011-09-14, 05:28 PM
I like! I like!
2011-09-14, 06:32 PM
Whenever a new DVR option becomes available to OTA'ers, I get excited.
Unfortunately, this DVR has little new to offer from Channel Master's previous DVR, the CM7000Pal.
This new device works with the VUDU movie/show streaming service. According to VUDU's Terms of Service, this service is only accessible in the US. Hopefully access to more services will become available in the future. But as it stands, Canadian and international customers are out of luck.
The storage capacity isn't much greater than the CM7000Pal. In fact, it might be the same. 35 hours of HD? I get that or about that now.
And while the manual isn't yet available to confirm, I wouldn't be surprised if this device only supports TVGOS in the US. If you're a Canadian customer, I would definitely wait to confirm that you can add a Canadian postal code to the device. Especially now that TVGOS is available from many more Canadian stations.
2011-09-14, 10:23 PM
I have been reading through a lot of this thread and was wondering if there is much difference in the quality of digital tuner in the Channel Master 7000PAL compared to say the Magnavox MDR515H 500GB or any other dvr?
I have a 2009 Samsung PN58BN550 which seems to have a decent digital tuner in it (no signal strength meter though).
However, I have hooked up a Tivax digital tuner and found that the Tivax will pick up signals (only in SD, no hdmi output only a/v) that my Samsung won't even register.
I was hoping to buy a dvr with a great digital tuner as I am on the deep fringe in Arthur, Ontario will all but 3 of my potential channels in - db ratings.
2011-09-15, 11:35 PM
The channelmaster tv looks promising. I think i'll try my luck and wait for Sony to release the PlayTV over here in North America. Although I not going to hold my breath for too long on that one.