StanleyParker:

I don't think anyone is under the illusion that the Canadian television networks are responsible for most of the programming in primetime, apart from what they would see on CBC and SRC.
The reality when it comes to simsubs is that only people such as us wo have HDTVs and have proper HD reception and are aware of the problems when the service providers screw up a simsub because the Canadian rights owner has asked them to simsub in the first place, really gripe about it.
When it comes to the Superbowl, the hype about the commercials on American television during the Superbowl, does make some people wonder about simsubbing. But I suspect the VAST amount of Superbowl viewers really only care about the game, and not about the different commercial content or the apparent loss in image quality when simsubbing is done on an HD broadcast.
Those who watch the Superbowl on an SD setup, of course practically see no difference in image quality, but only the content differences with the commercials if they're even aware of the differences. And let's not forget that, again, the VAST amount of TVs out there are still SD.

Until I heard about it on this forum I had no idea that I was only getting 95% of programs on the canadian feeds.

I wonder if Shaw (for example) would appreciate it if I just paid 95% of my bill each month! And if the average canadian went to McDs and was told they were only getting 95% of their happy meal there would be an uproar. So why is it acceptable on TV?

It's not about the Super Bowl commercials - it's about that missing 5%. It's about who gets to decide what 5% I miss. It's about denying the consumer the choice to watch a canadian or american feed. And it's about an unacceptable practice that has gone on WAY too long.

As far as I'm concerned, protecting the canadian identity, or whatever the CRTC thinks it is doing, is just a lame excuse for an inferior product. How does chopping off a couple of minutes of programming help us stay more canadian?

If any one can explain this to me you're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!

How does chopping off a couple of minutes of programming help us stay more canadian? By imposing more Tim Horton's or Kevin Newman commercials on us, of course. At least, that seems to be their rationale.

markb: As long as the difference is 'invisible to the user' it doesn't matter. With that being said, 1080i vs 720p, when it comes to sports, is not invisible to any user!

And it's certainly not invisible when I see a bug such as Global and CTV where a beutiful NBC, CBS, FOX or ABC logo should be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This year, yet again the super bowl will be simsubbed by Global. Last year, was (on Bell anyways) Globals first HD simsub, meaning all bell customers lost all of the Super Bowl Commercials. This year ti will undoubtably be the same, with Canadian Tire commercials (Woo! screw Pirates 3 trailer adn the like) and other commercials that lack HD and importance.

I"d just like to let go my frustration over this yet again.

Tell us something new. We've heard it all before. Much of Rogers Ontario was also simsubbed. Was last year not the second year for BEV?

Cogeco (Windsor - Leamington) HD channels are never sigsub.

I love cogeco!

Thank goodness I live 25 minutes from detroit and it worst comes to worst; pull out the $85 radio shack indoor antenna. Does the trick

Last Superbowl the Left Coast feed was simsubbed on Cogeco. Cogeco gets the West feed from Rogers who had the Global HD feed sim-subbing.

It is the only time I have ever seen Global HD (and hopefully the last).

Now that the National Football League's regular season has ended, the countdown to Super Bowl XLI has begun. While sports fans are focused on which teams will make it to the Feb. 4 game, folks in the advertising business are watching to see which marketers suit up for the CBS broadcast. (http://www.usatoday.com/money/advertising/2007-01-02-super-bowl-usat_x.htm)

Hi!
I got a Sony KDFE55 since 3 years with a BEV 6000 HD receiver.
In 2004 and 2005 I got all the SUPERBOWL ADS broadcast from Boston channels. Since last year 2006, GLOBAL as bought all rights from ABC-CBS-FOX-NBC to broadcast all NFL playoffs and Superbowl for the next 8 years.
So good times is already gone my friends

The next 8 years of watching Global TV - that is so depressing.

Don't forget that you can still get the US ads OTA if you are close to a US city and really want them.

timbo's dumb question for today:
Assuming we're watching OTA Buffalo's CBS affiliate (wutv-4?), what is stopping the affiliate from simsubbing a commercial for LOCKPORT FORD or GAMBINO BROS. OF CHEEKTOWAGA over the network feed?

The Buffalo OTA feed should be the same feed that folks in Buffalo are watching via cable. Therefore, you're gonna see National commercials with a few, very few, local commercials (some always seem to exist).

Also, that's part of the reason the commercials are so expense; They are broadcast to a national audience. Accordingly the regional affiliates have very limited local air-time. We, however, are not included in the "national" audience, so Global can sibsub to its heart's content. I just don't understand why they can't do it right (but that's a different thread :))

Wow, where did 3 pages of posts go? I was up to page 6 earlier today.

My own way of avoiding a simsubbed Super Bowl has been since 2005 by going to a motel room in the US to watch the game,yes an expensive thing for me to do,but at least there I'm in a free country GOD BLESS THE USA
where the evil dictators at the CRTC cannot get me.Going to look into subscribing to US satellite TV,
sure that is illegal,but so are a lot of other things in this so-called free country.

I'm looking forward to the OTA broadcast of this year's Bowl as well as the commercials. I missed out on HD and the advertisements last year when I failed to get my OTA up and running in time.

Throughout the playoffs this year, there has been a few more HD commercials than during regular season games. This, of course, is welcome. Any HD television will help to hurry along the eventual move to 'all HD all the time.' (hey a fellow can wish, can't he?)

One abberation during the commercial breaks during the Conference Finals was the Sony ad for their 1080p HDTV. (no specific model, just Sony 1080p)
The ad espoused the benefit of Sony's product as it pertained to our enjoyment of the football.
The ad, however, wasn't in HD. With black bars above, below and to the sides, I guess we can call it letterboxed 4:3 SD. (I think)

Anyhow, it struck me as strange that some smaller brands were advertising in HD while Sony seemed to fumble the ball. ( oh, I made a funny )
Let's keep our eyes open for any HD ads from Sony during the big game.

O man, I really hope this guy (http://www.mysuperproposal.com/) isn't in Canada, otherwise he'll get simsubbed out by Global...