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Techluvr
2007-03-06, 10:29 AM
Will there really be no way to bypass the throttle?..

Probably not; it looks like they have some pretty sophisticated detection happening. I wish they would just come out and inform their customers what to expect.

Now that I'm with Teksavvy, I've been torrenting some Linux distributions. Within a few minutes of starting, I see a rapid rise of download speed up to 250KB, then remaining steady until the download is finished. The upload speed is also pegged to my set limit, which is usually about 20KB. A typical load takes about an hour.

Switching back to the Rogers modem ( I cancelled, but have to keep paying for it for 30 days anyway :mad: ) I see the same upsurge at the start, but then suddenly it's like someone crimped the hose, and the water just trickles out the nozzle. It drops down to a few KB. What would normally take an hour to load, now will take 5 or 6 days.

I just dusted off an old WRT54G and upgraded the firmware to DD-WRT. Since I have to pay Robers for another month anyway, I might as well get some use out of it. With two gateways, I can set up an old PC to download a bunch of not so interesting Linux'es using the Rogers modem, and forget about it until the end of the month. The other gateway can connect to my Teksavvy modem for normal web use and torrenting thing's I want quickly.

TorontoInternet
2007-03-07, 12:07 PM
Yesterday with Rogers and the day before I was able to get 150-200kb/sec on torrents, I use 181 port with my router port forwarded and It only works when there is alot more seeds then leechers.

By the way with TekSavvy can you just rent the modem? And how much is it a month.

Techluvr
2007-03-07, 01:25 PM
By the way with TekSavvy can you just rent the modem? And how much is it a month.

I don't think there's a modem rental option. You can buy theirs, or find one on your own. I saw one made by Gentek for less than half the price of the SpeedTouch that Teksavvy sells; I think you might even find them cheaper on eBay. The difference is that the SpeedTouch modem they sell is also a NAT/Router. Since I already have a NAT/Router (or two), I disabled its function and used it in simple 'bridge' mode.

BTW. After I posted yesterday, I noticed the speed with the Roger's connection had gone back up to 40KB again. Later, after dinner-time it was back down below 5KB. I think they are allowing torrent bandwidth when there is no other network traffic.

Still, the question remains... Who decides what internet traffic is more important than others? If they have taken this responsibility on themselves, then why not inform their paying customers of the change in service? Why do we have to make guesses about what's going on?

petedran
2007-03-26, 11:41 AM
Has anyone on shaw starting having speed issues with bittorrent. Starting about a week ago I cannot download with uTorrent at a speed faster than 30k. I routinely could get up to 200k prior to that. Any suggestions.

italpasta
2007-04-04, 05:26 PM
It's a known fact Rogers is throttling your net. A common bypass was to use SecureIX, however it seems that Rogers now throttles that also :o

This forum has a whole bunch of info about the throttling: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rogers

Attila
2007-04-17, 05:41 PM
I have a bit of interesting info on getting around the throttling. Let me just say that I don't know how this happened, but while my uTorrent u/l is set to 30kbs, I only get 2-6 because of Rogers' throttling. However, I noticed that I was able to u/l to one connection and it got all of my 30kbs bandwidth out of about 50 peers. This guy was in the US and he was using Azureus 2.5.0.4 on port 65000.

I was able to u/l to him at this speed until he got to 100% completion and then he disconnected and my u/l went back to 2-6kbs.

So, there is something that fools the throttling, but it is a mystery to me for now.

ve3sy
2007-04-17, 08:06 PM
Bit Torrent users will be interested in this Column titled ISP must come clean on `traffic shaping' by Michael Geist (http://www.thestar.com/opinion/columnists/94542) who holds the Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-commerce Law at the University of Ottawa, Faculty of Law.

The Star article can be read here (http://www.thestar.com/article/203408)