: QC - South Shore, Eastern Townships, Northern NY and VT
2007-06-05, 12:38 PM
I can sometime get WNPI 18.1 and the analog station will stop I think I will receive it properly (There is analog station on 23 that interfere. )
Unfortunately WNPI will most likely remain on 23 after the analog shutdown (see DTV Tentative Channel Designations (http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-1082A2.pdf)).
Unfortunately WNPI will most likely remain on 23 after the analog shutdown ).
That would be good, if WNPI stay on 23 I will most likely be able to receive it easily when the analog shut down.
I think we will have a way better reception of DT after the analog shut down.
I pickup some mysterious station since i've install a notch on ch 17 and ch 35. (two weeks ago, Before cross modulation of 17 and 35 were almost every where)
Got DT signal (~25%) on 26 DT.
Got some sign of a DT signal on 39 DT (0 then 100% then 15%)
Got Image and sound with very frequent break up (Actually more break up than sound and image) on 23 and 25 analog (23 Seem to be a FOX station and 25 Seem to be My Tv or Fox). On 21 I got ION network and on 16 some kind of relegious channel?
When i don't pickup anything on 23 analog I usualy have a good lock on WNPI.
All this to say that analog station even very far ca cause interference to DT station and when they will shut down our reception will most likely be better.
(see DTV Tentative Channel Designations).
Thank's I was searching for that.
2007-06-05, 05:13 PM
If the signal was analog, maybe you picked W16AL from burlington? The last time I have been able to reveive it it was affiliated to TBN (a religious network). It seem that this is possible to receive"DX" signal in digital, so maybe I will rebuild my antenna gear this summer.
2007-06-25, 07:53 PM
i have receive my new CM4228 in april, and i install it today
its excellent even without amplifier... ! ( instaled outside )
2-1 CBFT-DT 502,250 Mhz 78% ------ TV-ok USB tuner-ok
3-1 WCAX-HD CBS-------------------------TV ok
3-2 WCAX-Weather -----------------------TV ok
5-1 WPTZ-HD NBC ----------------------- TV ok
5-2 WPTZ-DT Weather -----------------TV ok
6-1 CBMT-DT 508,250 Mhz 69% ------ TV-ok USB tuner-ok
33-1 VPT-HD PBS -------------------------TV ok
33-2 VPT-2 --------------------------------TV ok
33-3 VPT-3 --------------------------------TV ok
44-1 WFFF-HD FOX-----------------------TV not good ,pixelated
44-2 WFFF-DT Test pattern on 44.2
57-1 WCFE-DT PBS -----------------------TV ok
2007-10-02, 10:01 AM
hi, please i live in trois riv, and i try to get local channel in HD, but not able ?. i have LCD TV with build in tuner, and indoor amtemma RCA wich is good rating for getting OTA signal. i tried to move antenna but i do not see any HD channel on TV, just scrambled anlog channel, and for digital the frequency bar detection always in 0 position ??
thanks for your help
2007-10-02, 10:09 AM
I'm pretty sure you'll need an outdoor antenna to get any signal in your region. :(
hi, please i live in trois riv, and i try to get local channel in HD, but not able ?.
No luck...The only one you migh be able (Very difficult) to pickup with a very good antenna would be WCFE DT.
2007-10-02, 11:42 AM
Maybe Radio-Canada on channel 12 from Quebec City? Unfortunately you would have the video carrier of channel 13 in Trois-Rivieres that would interfere.
2007-10-02, 06:31 PM
yes in trois riv radio canada is on 13. but i can not get it in HD :(. my indoor antenna is : RCA ANT121 Indoor Antenna
in the site above it says that the antenna is very good as infdoor antenna for HD ?
2007-10-02, 08:31 PM
in trois riv radio canada is on 13. but i can not get it in HDThat is because it is an old-style analogue station. You are not close enough to any digital stations to get HD unless foxfan is correct that you might get channel 12 from Quebec City with a proper outdoor antenna.
Your RCA antenna is only going to get digital TV if you are very close to a station. Even if you were, I would recommend other antennas before it.
2007-10-03, 12:52 AM
it is clear for me now, thanks a lot
2007-10-12, 08:13 PM
So I picked up my Dynex 32" LCD planning to use it solely with Starchoice's HDTV, which I now have set up, However, since this (incredibly inexpensive) TV has an ATSC tuner, I figured I might as well try it out to see what I could get.
Things going against me: My apartment (in Saint-Hubert) faces west (essentially Montreal) and I'm in the lowest level (i.e. half-basement). All windows/patio face that way. And I'm not even in the corner of the building, so I can't exactly put something outside to face south.
I tried out an old Radio Shack Color Supreme 100 antenna my parents had stashed away and picked up absolutely nothing HD, and horrible regular reception. Not wanting to dish out money considering I already have subscribed TV and just playing, I figured I would look on the net for a do-it-yourself type antenna as cheaply as possible (and quick too).
In the end, I fashioned a UHF antenna out of styrofoam and aluminum foil, a bunch of clear packing tape and an old 75 ohm transformer I had in my big bag o' wires. It's the ugliest thing imaginable, but it's close enough for government work. Didn't get anything initially, until I found a sweet spot high up (2.5 feet from ceiling and probably 3 feet above outdoor ground level) in the top corner of the room nearish to the patio (but it's facing wall at that placing)
Here I pick up CBC and SRC's HD feeds at about 55-60 signal strength, which is more than good enough to watch whenever I need to. I guess I'll catch whatever else comes up in Montreal in HD, which is nice. As for Vermont/Upstate NY stations, that's just a pipe dream at the moment (I get nothing at all from them, obviously).
I think I'll eventually build another using coat hangers and wood, and maybe even figure out a way to get it outside. Maybe hang it on my patio fence (to the inside)... I *MIGHT* be able to clear some sort of line of sight to the south though I doubt it... Still, might be a fun little project.
Amazing how some basic household supplies can outperform an (admittedly cruddy) store bought antenna.
2007-10-14, 08:32 PM
I finally installed my Antenna (channel Master 4228) on the Roof.
Since Montreal and the US are in different direction, i need to install a rotator. :(
I saw a automatic one that work with a remote. That mean i would need to use two remotes to change channel. Im looking for something i could connect on a computer. The computer will be the tuner and will control the rotator. So no need for two remotes.
So does anyone know a rotator like that?
2007-10-14, 08:41 PM
Hi, I don't know about a USB rotor but you can read through our Rotors thread and ask the experts and other DHCers there:
2007-12-20, 11:35 AM
I have 2 questions..
1) How is CFJP-DT's signal for people on the south shore of Montreal? What is CFJP-DT's antenna location?
With my indoor CM4221 HomeMadeClone without amplification and aimed at the SRC building (north), I receive their signal at around 25-30% while I need ~70% for a lock. If find this odd considering I receive SRC/CBC at 95-100% and even WCFE at 75-80% with the same antenna at the same location (Mt.Mansfield is ~20%).
With my outdoor CM4221 HomeMadeClone with 15dB amplification on a 15ft pole, I reach ~40-45% for CFJP-DT. That antenna is normally aimed at Mt.Mansfield where I get a signal of 85-100% depending on the station.
2) As you see, I am currently using 2 antennas with an A-B switch because my 2 main signal sources are separated by ~165 degrees with Montreal at ~15km LoS and Mt. Mansfield at ~110km LoS. With all of your expertise, do you think it would be possible to use only 1 antenna without a rotor to acquire signals from both Montreal and Mt. Mansfield?
Now that I know that I can get a reliable signal with cheap stuff (2xHomeMade 4221, 15' pole, unknown preamp), I plan to have a self-standing tower erected this spring/summer and purchase real/solid/weatherproof equipment (well, at least more resistant than my homemade stuff!).
I was wondering if using a CM4228 or XG91 aimed to Mt.Mansfield with the necessary amplification would catch enough signal from it back to lock on SRC/CBC/TQS?
2007-12-20, 04:23 PM
at my location ( Boucherville), i can lock both all mt mansfield
HD channel, and ALSO both radiocan (eng/french) HD channel with same position,
but nothing is in the back ( just about 60 deg diff. )
and all other regular SD channel (TQS-TVA-teleQC) are getting
verry bad (major snow storm!), so i woold also need a rotor if i want to catch everything.
I think you should try to catch montreal stuff via another cheap antenna, and keep
your 4221 to focus on MT-Mansfield ( that whats i'm doing with another B2000 regular VHF )
my setyp: a 4228 at 25 feets from the ground, just over my roof
end+amplifier and a B2000 to catch all SD from montreal
i actually get these with my 4228
2-1 CBFT-DT 502,250 Mhz 78% ------ TV-ok USB tuner-ok
3-1 WCAX-HD CBS
5-1 WPTZ-HD NBC
5-2 WPTZ-DT Weather
6-1 CBMT-DT 508,250 Mhz 69%
33-1 VPT-HD PBS
44-1 WFFF-HD FOX
57-1 WCFE-DT PBS
2007-12-20, 04:39 PM
Thanks for the reply. I'll wait for input for others too and go from there.
2007-12-21, 07:59 PM
It seems that 3/4 of my house is in some sort of shadow for CFJP-DT's signal since, moving to the other extremity of my house with my HomeMade Indoors CM4221 clone, I am able to receive it at 80+%. Life is good once again!
2008-01-23, 08:28 AM
this is my first post after being reading and searching this great forum for about a week now.
i've come to the conclusion of getting either a db8 or the 4228. i checked the comparision chart at hdtvprimer, but i still dont know which one to go for. personally, i liked more the look of the db8, but what i care is their performance.
i'm in brossard (south shore of montreal) and i'm planning to mount it at roof level. i thought of the lacrosse also, but either the db8 or 4228 outperform the stealth one.
so, which one should i get. any other recommendation is more than welcome. thanks
i've come to the conclusion of getting either a db8 or the 4228the 4228 will help you get ABC HD while the DB-8 will be less effective there
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