@suzanne Global hasn't gone HD yet, hang on till Sept 1st :)
As for CTV, it's quite low power, also wait till Sept 1st when it goes full power.

CBFT-DT (2.1 - rf19) at 30% is clear and flawless.
CBMT-DT (6.1 - rf20) at 20% is clear and flawless, sometimes loses signal in rain.
No signal on any other Montreal channels with SBGH-6 on a 20 foot pole.
CM-3412 out to 2 tvs.

My SBGH to Mt Mansfield at 19 miles is no problem.

I did more testing this weekend but, instead of a corner reflector antenna, I used a Channel Master 4228HD. I am pleased to report that I can now receive reliably WCAX, WPTZ, WETK and WFFF. Still no success with WVNY though. On analog, I get CHLT-7, CKSH-9, CKMI-11, TQc, V and CBC. When the analog convert to digital (except for that strange animal called CBC which will simply shut down), that will make a very good selection.

Hi,

This is the TVFool result for my current antenna position:
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d219352ab4586ea

I currently use a "2000+ Electronic Antenna" for more then 10 years (I can post more detail on this). It is pointing in direction on the US (~159°) and I manage to catch most of the expected (green) digital channel as per TVFool reports but:
- PBS 33.1 and FOX 44.1 are very weak and usually not strong enough
- ABC 22.1 is almost always out of reach
- CTV 51.1 does not get in
- when the weather is getting bad or windy, most of the channel drop off or become unstable

I would like to improve this and I was thinking of:
- Using 2 antenna so I can point 1 to Montreal, 1 to the US
- Using a "better" antenna" pointing to the US to improve result & stability
- Move the antennas a little bit higher and to the corner of my house because as per TVFool, I have a tree right in the line to Montreal towers.

Questions:
- Can I keep the existing antenna or should I get 2 new ones ?
- Can I use 2 different antenna or should I use 2 of the same model ?
- Can I use 2 bowtie type antenna but point 1 panel to Montreal & 3 panel to US and expect good results ?
- How much impact can I expect from having the antennas higher: I would like to keep the installation simple and not requiring an antenna post that need to go down to the ground

Thanks

Show few pictures of your current setup. I tried to google your antenna, but without results. For digital antenna orientation has to be precise. Sometimes small adjustment will make a huge difference. Higher is always better, but antenna type can compensate for height.
I have foldable 8 bay antenna. Half is pointed to US and half to Montreal. For optimum reception I think two 8 bay antennas, one to US, one to Montreal would be ideal. Or if looks are important one 8 bay antenna and rotor. Show us what you have perhaps others will have more suggestions. Do not forget the coaxial cable. Perhaps your old antenna has RG59. For digital, for best results you should always use RG6.

Hi,

This is the Antenna specs that came with it & a picture of it on my roof:
http://owjasg.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p2b7QMB2nNck1xWF1TwsEVQQOgYGj6j20_loNE7KZOAADKdi6DQpgz3JtR ycPbqTxxbIzxy9WUM4tTHnnsNPUD_mb_aVz-cxH/antenna_spec_2.jpg?psid=1

http://owjasg.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p5Ennpurb-roW3L5hD2x1Pu2FB6R1r5tGPokqVrFwoIYIpOmJn1pnRX-WBGqqnCO_WIKaZYbbnc1aPypgA283AKuy4WyopLY7/IMG_2917_2.jpg?psid=1

It is install on a rotor but I would like not to have to use it in the future. The antenna came with a signal amplifier.

Thanks

Depending on where you're located on the south shore, I dont see the need to point anything towards Montreal. I have a SBGH pointed towards the US, and our local Montreal channels come in at 80%-98% off the side.

Cheers, K

FYI guys,
I'm in st-luc (south shore of mtl, near st-jean sur richelieu), and I'm using a ClearStream C5 mounted on the roof. It used to be in the attic, but I've installed it outside this summer.
Mounted on the roof I'm getting all channels, lowest being 73%. Almost all US channels come in at 100% (73% for ABC). But 73% for a VHF channel is steady and strong enough, no dropouts at all.
I'm using a cheap GE Adisson preamp, 100ft RG6 Home Depot cable, but there's also a cheapo splitter which makes me loose some of the signal. However both my TIVO and TV have enough.
The antenna is a VHF antenna, perfect for 13-1 but it pulls in all UHF channels as well. Which makes it a perfect antenna for my needs.
In the attic signal was very good for everything, but I couldn't get CFCF and TQS. Everything else was coming in fine. ABC was even stronger at about 80%, but once on the roof, I had to sacrifice 13-1 signal in order to be able to pull everything else.
All in all, it's a really awesome antenna. Plus, I've bought it off a nice dude from this forum. ;)
Well worth the money.

Hi schumimtl,

Could you post your TVfool so I can compare it to mine? I was also thinking of installing a C5 on my roof, but I was wondering if it would work. Right now I pull all digital stations except WVNY with a simple Stealth Hawk, no preamp, that's in one precise location in my attic, and about 60' of RG6 to my tv. Your experience with the C5 is very encouraging. I like the fact that it's quite small yet has good gain on VHF. I was hoping to get everything without a preamp, but if neede I'll buy a CM 7777. Hope to hear from you soon.

Here's my TVfool (http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d001bcb1e696ce2).

sure, no problem.
Here's mine. http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d001b7f1da9eb8c

The antenna is light, and indeed a very small footprint.
Keep in mind I don't get at all WCFE 57.1. But it's pretty much the same programming as 33.1 anyways.

schumimtl, Boukman,
what an enviable location for OTA! Look at your Tvfool! Everything is LOS, with strong signals and even multiple stations for SRC, Global and TVA to choose from.

schummimtl - BTW, you still owe us a picture of your C5 setup :-).

Thanks for the advise. I have been looking at the PDF decision chart and they recommend a Winegard HD769xP: this is not bowtie design, should I go with one of them instead if I should expect not to need a separate antenna to point to Montreal ?

here's two pics of my antenna on top of the house:

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7512/img0094e.jpg
By sorinmtl (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/sorinmtl) at 2011-06-16

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1982/img0093zj.jpg
By sorinmtl (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/sorinmtl) at 2011-06-16

Here is my setup

CM-2016 toward Montreal and CM-4228-HD toward USA on at 10 foot pole on my roof, the 4228 is on top of the pole and the CM-2016 just beneath it.

Into Diplexer to 4 way splitter.

I've tried with and without pre amp cm-7778.

Here is my location with tv fool info
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d03d949d062ec5c

i'm missing 12.1 / 35.1 / 22.1 / 44.1 is very weak

Should i elevate my antenna with an extra 10 feet pole or do you have any advice?

Thanks

have you tried them one by one without the joining of them? those 4 channels are the weakest ones, and when you join 2 antennas in 2 directions you lose some signal strength. this might be what is happening imo

Anyone here have a CM2020 antenna? According to its specs, it received VHF 7 and up and wondering if anyone has had luck w/ it with the infamous ABC?.

As I previously mentioned, am moving in 2 weeks (laprairie to Candiac), and despite a slight TVFOOL improvement, ABC is always a concern.

Currently, my SBGH, pointed towards Burlington gets everything, except ABC.
Also, am quasi-debating if I should just wait for the transition date to arrive to see if the interference will end.

Cheers, K

CM2020 = • Receives channels 7 thru 69

I use CM2016 (smaller) towards Montreal and CM4228HD towards USA, no luck with ABC from Chateauguay

Channel 13 ABC - issues are (sorry in french)
1- Weak ABC signal
2- Radio-Canada Trois-Rivière is on channel 13
3- CTV de Gatineau in on channel 13
4- CTV de Montréal is on channel 12 (adjacent)

Is there a filter that can block only channel 13 on the CM2016 that points towards Montreal?

Since yesterday, I noticed that I am now receiving the signal of CFCF 12.1 digital in St-Philippe/Candiac on the south shore. Mind you, it's not that strong and I get dropouts and pixellation but this is a vast improvement: before that, I was receiving exactly 0 signal, nothing at all.

My main antenna is aimed at Mount Mansfield so the CFCF 12.1 signal so that's why the signal is weak. But when I aim my SBGH w/Narod at Montreal and hook it up directly to my Sharp Aquos TV, the signal is remarkably stable.

Before I was getting exactly ZERO signal even with that setup.
Has CTV changed anything in the the past few weeks? Broadcast power?... antenna location?....

Why is it working now?... It never worked before.

Anyone picking up Global HD CKMI (11.1) from Sherbrook? TVFOOL has it listed as LOS for Candiac despite being 150km away.

Going to test tonight

Cheers, K

i receive it here, in the Montérégie, but it seems low