: QC - South Shore, Eastern Townships, Northern NY and VT
2009-10-03, 10:05 AM
Did you use tvfool to aim your antenna(e)
1) find your longitude and latitude using google earth or whatever
2) got to this page http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29
3) Enter coordinates and the rest should be intuitively obvious;-)
Yea I checked TVFool and pointed in one direction to get all my US channels and I do get them with 90%+, but I am just missing 6.1 which is at the same place as 2.1, 35.1 and 17.1 and I get all those. I was getting the 6. inside my home. can I be loosing signal because its up on the roof? Is that possible?
2009-10-03, 02:11 PM
mcu, where are you located on the South Shore?
2009-10-04, 11:16 PM
mcu is located in Brossard.
2009-10-25, 12:16 AM
Hi Stampeder, Hi members
I live in south shore of montreal (coord:45.317279,-73.3938)
B4 i registered here, i bought a digicrap system a 8 bowtie antenna pointing to Mt mansfield (60 miles away) and a 4 bowties pointing to montreal (20 miles away). systems was ok for few month aftetr that system starts to lose reliability and signal. i also got obset not having our typical ABC channel 13.
but then i did a channel 13 - 11.8db k7mem design with a big smile, tested worked fine but again... lasted few months...?
now i wanna start over again with the good stuff
it is so me to wait until its freezing outside to go back on my roof
now i just bought two (2) 7777 CM pre amp
and im ready to order two (2) 4228s pointing both in mt mansfield (oh ya im really fed up)
is it a silly configuration?
would i be able to have clear signal all year round and also have enough boost to catch the borderline channel 13 ?
or should i simply get a deep fringe antenna which it s not my first choice
the second 7777 pre amp will be used for Montreal station again i dunno if i should choose an overkilled antenna. my existing CM VHF/uhf antenen is not so good for uhf channels
may i have your 2 cennes on that
wut u guys would do...
Thanx you very much
2009-10-25, 01:28 PM
Hi deroa, here are some reception ideas:
Since you built a K7MEM antenna for VHF-HI channel 13 already I suggest that you build a DBGH for Mt. Mansfield and an SBGH for Montreal (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=186). You will get the best! :)
Another option is to test your digicrap 8-bay on the Montreal stations and if it works fine buy a DB-8, an HD-8800, or a CM4228HD (hacked) for Mt. Mansfield UHFs.
Looking at your TVFool report it seems you are almost right in between the aiming points, so I would mount the antennas for each direction at least 25" apart. See Post #16 in the OTA FAQ for more info on spacing and combining antennas.
2009-10-25, 02:32 PM
Thanx for your advice Stampeder
i live in a country place called st-jacques 20 miles south of montreal, few miles N-W from st-jean sur richelieu
i do have a good line of sight for montreal, i might try my old stuff but my first idea was to do an halloween costume with it.
my computer has a tv module which is located 100 ft from antenna. wut should i do to boost my signal for my picky computer
Thanx Again , great forum
2009-10-25, 10:56 PM
Your location is very good for the US Channels. I am very jealous about your NM numbers. I wish I could get those numbers in Beloeil.
For 100 ft, I think you will need a preamp, Channel Master CM 7777 or a Winegard product.
Raybel in Montreal-East(they ship by Canada Post) has the best selection. There are also Mastevox in Greenfield Park or KGE beside Promenade St-Bruno.
2009-10-28, 11:40 PM
Actually i bought two (2) 7777pre amp on ebay at a fairly good price.
Here my strategies, please feel free to comments
plan A) get a cm-4228 pre amp for UHF channels and hoping i will get enough strenght for channel 13
plan B) a 4228 and make my k7mem ch13 antenna works again, 7777 pre amp system
plan C) 2-4248 stacked to get strong south signal plus channel 13 and wish a backlobe for montreal UHF channel
plan D) a 4228 and a C5 antenna, 7777 pre amp system
Plan A) get my old CM UHF/VHF antenna on VHF Only use my old digicrap for UHF, 7777 preamp system
Plan B) get my old CM UHF/VHF antenna on VHF Only use a 4228 for UHF, 7777 preamp system
Do i need to add another amplifiers C3414 to get stronger signal at my computer
2009-11-22, 07:39 PM
wow wut a difference with 4228
did my plan C (16 bays, 2-4228 stacked, 7777 pre map), worked very well . location helps
Thanx again, great forum stampeder
South shore Montreal
2009-12-03, 01:21 PM
Exact location is near Champlain Mall.
Using a home-brew antenna similar to this:
... except the one I'm using here has folded dipoles cut for UHF channel 32. (It's also better built because I've had practice lately!)
The TV is a Toshiba 40RV525R.
Found a sweet spot in my parents' living room on the ground floor (on the south side of the house), with the antenna aimed toward Mount Mansfield, Vt. Fine position/azimuth adjustments were made using WFFF and CFJP, as those are the weakest receivable stations from here.
Reception of all stations is possible, except WVNY.
So here are the results, as of a few minutes ago anyway.
Ch. SNR Signal level
NBC-WPTZ 14 21 97
SRC-CBFT 19 29 97
CBC-CBMT 20 26 97
CBS-WCAX 22 23 97
TQ-CIVM 27 27 97
PBS-WETK 32 22 97
PBS-WCFE 38 18 77*
V-CFJP 42 19 87
FOX-WFFF 43 17 67
*WCFE is off beam for the receiving antenna.
Properly aimed, the SNR is quite good.
Still, this is more than OK for everyday reception.
VHF analog reception is poor to fair -- no surprise seeing how this is a UHF antenna. It does better with CFTM 10 and CFCF 12 than CBFT 2 and CBMT 6.
UHF analog reception is improved when compared to a commercial set-top antenna -- the type with VHF telescoping antennas, a UHF loop and a 12-position dial.
CFTU 29 and CKMI 46 are now comfortably viewable. There is still some snow on the screen, whereas it was pretty much all snow before.
CJNT 62 and CIVS 24 can be received, too, but they take a little repositioning work. They were non-starters before.
UPDATE: Later on in the day, WFFF and CFJP began to fluctuate. Levels for both these stations dropped a little.
2009-12-13, 12:28 AM
My TV Fool report is:
If I can receive CBC, PBS, ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX, I'll go for it. I can install an antenna on my chimney, but it would have to be compact.
- what are my chances of getting all those stations?
- any suggestions for a good antenna?
- any suggestions for a good installer on the south short, Montreal area?
you should get all the available digitals + the strong analogs if you have no man-made obstruction in your way.
you could use a bow-tie style and most likely need a rotor or 2 antenna set-up to get both groups of channels (Montreal & US)
if you want to build, these 2 threads are full of info...
also search the reception results threads on your location:
2009-12-29, 03:09 AM
I live in Longueuil (Montreal south shore)(postal code: J4H 2W2) and I m looking for an indoor antenna. Which one should I buy and where can I buy it ??
My location is :
Condo in concrete
At about 50m from my appartemnt there's a building of 2 story high
Thanks for help
2010-01-20, 11:32 PM
Regarding PBS... Im unable to lock on to any of them.. everything else, CBC, CBS, NBC, FOX, SRC, TQS etc are ranging from 75%-98% so I really literally dont get it (pun intended).
2010-01-21, 12:10 AM
If your getting WFFF-DT, you should be getting WETK-DT as they are transmitting at almost double. Try tuning in manually. Punch in 32.1 and see if it will lock onto WETK-DT. Also, try 38.1 to lock in manually to WCFE-DT. I know I had to do this sort of thing with my Tivax digital box. The auto scan wouldn't lock onto everything my Sharp TV would.
2010-01-21, 01:14 AM
Whoa.. thanks for the tip!
Ive been using "autoscan" on the Sony Bravia until now.
After my post, I moved the antenna a bit and picked up PBS..
Weird is, using your tip, I typed in 22.1 and got ABC despite the autoscan never picking it up...
BTW, I have a makeshift SBGH on the floor temporary until I built a proper one.. hence the moving comment..
Thanks again thought
2010-01-21, 01:28 AM
Scratch that... 22.1 = WCAX instead of WVNY ???
2010-01-21, 03:17 AM
For ABC you would punch 13.1 not 22.1. ABC is now broadcasting on VHF 13 and left UHF 22 to WCAX since digital switchover.
2010-01-21, 09:31 AM
Using (no joke), a three foot long piece of 2x1, 4 coat hangers, stripped down rg-59, 6 screws and duct tape..
The Antenna itself is on the floor next to the TV and it doesnt have one straight angle...but so far im receiving..
Signal ranges from 72-98%
Still cant get a lock on WETK nor WVNY though
However, I noticed last night several chanels like 27.1 come in with an excellent signal but nothing is being broadcasted.. I noticed maybe 12 or so channels likes these... any thoughts?