: OTA: Quebec & Atlantic Canada Parts, Sales, Service, Installers


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Daemons
2009-12-10, 05:26 PM
Did you happen to notice if Addison still has the GE pre-amp?
If it's the 24db amp you were looking for, I just noticed today that Canadian Tire sells a 24db adjustable GE Amp. It's painted black.

Marc

balm
2009-12-10, 08:00 PM
Daemons,

all you really need is RG-6, but to make sure of a little less loss, you should use RG-6 QUAD shield. I buy it at Access Electronique in DDO (Brunswick & Des Sources). The supplier is PROVO. It seems to be decent enough cable.

Daemons
2009-12-10, 08:28 PM
all you really need is RG-6, but to make sure of a little less loss, you should use RG-6 QUAD shield. I buy it at Access Electronique in DDO (Brunswick & Des Sources). The supplier is PROVO. It seems to be decent enough cable.
Do you recall the price? per foot, metre, or per length?
I'd have to get some quad fittings too. Home Depot Ideal brand seems to be popular in the coax thread. :)

Marc

balm
2009-12-10, 09:36 PM
cant recall the price, you should call first

so far the only place ive found quad fittings that actually go on quad cable properly are the ones at HD, but very expensive if I recall

Daemons
2009-12-11, 01:08 PM
I'm going to go investigate the Philips RG6 spool at Addison's. If it's the same as what I found on the Philips website, the cable would be Tri-Shield RG6.
I never bought it because they kept telling me their 95% Braid RG6 was MUCH better.
Btw, I think the 95% Braid cable I got is made by Provo.
I found this: 5916A (http://www.provowire.com/results.asp?basic=&catnum=&rgtype=&shield=&shieldtype=&paircount=&stranding=&conductorcount=&awgsize=&page=63) Scroll down to 5916A and the description matches exactly.
Could be a coincidence but it's a strange one. It's not marked Provo anywhere on the cable though.

Marc

Daemons
2009-12-12, 12:59 AM
Ok. I checked the Philips RG6 spool at Addison's (500' for $30) and it is not tri-shield. I would have been (happyly) surprised if it was.
It is 60% braid with foil, copper clad steel centre conductor.
Still, not bad for the price.

The 5916A 95% copper braid RG6 is from PROVO. I saw the boxes it comes in, so the link above is good.

I scored a left over of 50' Commscope 5740 RG6 Quad (http://www.commscope.com/uniprise/eng/support_document/spec_sheets/network_coax/1199752_8617.html) for $8! It's all they had though. They didn't even know there was a difference. :rolleyes: Too bad, I would have bought more. :D

Marc

balm
2009-12-12, 08:21 AM
my experience with Addison is they dont generally carry Quad shield, or at least not in good lengths.

the only place I find it regularily is at Access. Its quite pricey though at over $.30/ft, but their Provo cable seems to be of reliable quality (whatever you do dont let the Access kids put on the F-connectors, they dont know what they are doing!)

Typical loss per 100ft, for ANY Quad shield is about 3 db at 200 Mhz, 4 dB at 400, and 6 dB at 700 Mhz. The only way to improve that is to go to RG-11.

Again the differences are in the order of .5 dB - 1db between RG-59, RG-6, RG-11, on less than 100ft

As for tri-shield, theres no point.

Daemons
2009-12-12, 12:11 PM
the only place I find it regularily is at Access. Its quite pricey though at over $.30/ft, but their Provo cable seems to be of reliable quality
Thats not expensive. The Provo 95% Braid at Addison's is $0.35/foot. Only if you buy 100' does it come down to $0.30/foot.
Why do you say theres no point for tri-shield? I haven't checked yet but some HD stock it. It uses the same RG6 connectors as dual-shield and give almost the same benefit as quad (according to the coax thread). If it's cheaper, I was thinking of using it inside, and use the Quad outside.

If I find any I'll post back here.

Marc

balm
2009-12-12, 12:18 PM
i didnt think the tri-shield was that much cheaper, so I figured for a little extra go with the quad as it seems to be the new standard

also I would feel more comfortable NOt mixing coax types if avoidable...just me!

Daemons
2009-12-15, 10:58 PM
Balm,

I ended up getting 100' of 95% copper braid at Maddisons for $16. Theirs has a foil along with the copper braid. It's not the best coax, but it'll do for now.
I was surprised by the length I ended up using inside getting it to my living room. :eek: I haven't measured it yet but I'd say it's around 75' or so + the 15' or so of down-lead. I didn't need a drop amp before, but I think I need one now.
Either that of moving my antenna has changed (for the worst) my signal reception. I have a 3410 in the mail.

Btw, I used PPC EX6XL connectors. Those are great. They fit my Quadshield nicely. And the XL fit my Philips/Zenith tool just right.

Addison's has PPC EX6XL Connectors at $1/each, or $30/50.
You have to ask for them, otherwise they try to pawn off their other cheaper ones at the same $1/each.

Marc

balm
2009-12-15, 11:26 PM
Daemons,

you are very resourceful, good for you, keep it up!

you have about the length I have - yes the twists and turns add up fast - I realized after, maybe I should have used that "plenum" grade, better for very hot heating on the roof - oh well!

where do you intend on placing that amp exactly...

BTW, ive been dealing a lot with Fastenal (pointe-claire) and no major problems so far, those fittings are always more from here - gotta love this province eh - you know I cant find another place quite like it...i needed a lot of fittings for an extreme gain quad curtain channel cut

Daemons
2009-12-16, 01:05 PM
where do you intend on placing that amp exactly...
Right after the UVJS, connected at the antenna. I tried my 3414 at the end of my run (next to the TV) and it behaves the same way as before. It drops my ch22(cbs) from 50% down to 10%. :confused: And that's using a UVJS before it. I think it's defective. I really need to find someone with a 3414 to do a swap test to know for sure.
My base signals are worst than before, but I think it's due to the extra cable loss more than the antenna placement.

BTW, ive been dealing a lot with Fastenal (pointe-claire) and no major problems so far, those fittings are always more from here - gotta love this province eh - you know I cant find another place quite like it...i needed a lot of fittings for an extreme gain quad curtain channel cut
What's that? Good to hear for the good service. I wish I had gone there instead of the Anjou store.

balm
2009-12-16, 01:14 PM
Daemons, go here for curtain quad:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=114325

for the amp/antenna discussion we should continue in mclapps thread...

Kraven
2010-01-19, 05:42 PM
Salut a tous..

Sauriez-vous ou trouver un cable #8 copper pour une antenne SBGH ici a montreal? J'ai verifier Rona, Reno et Canadien tire sans succes...

loginatnine
2010-01-23, 03:39 PM
I'm looking for a silver sensor indoor antenna, are there any stores in Montreal that I can pick one up for a reasonable price? I'm in cote des neiges but I have access to a car if necessary.

Thanks!

balm
2010-01-27, 10:05 AM
does anyone know where I can get a cheap CM3412 (PCT) amplifer in montreal or canada for cheap, and free shipping?

thanks

Yuprules
2010-02-16, 09:55 AM
For anyone living in the South Shore (or who don't mind the drive). After everyone screaming that Mont Calm electronique wasn't so great and Raybel was better, I tried to find a dealer for the "better" Antenna's Direct antennas in Montreal and finally found a dealer. They had a sale on a DB2 for $30, so I picked one up for a friend.

Microinformatique (just off the 30)
5455 boul. Cousineau, Longueuil (Saint-Hubert) - 450.462.8416

They do NOT open on the weekends, and short hours during the weekdays:
9:30 am to 6:00 pm Mon - Fri.

List of Antenna's Direct antennas, they also carry the new funky looking
ClearStream4 Antenna (C4)

http://microinformatique.ca/Page/prix2/prixdetail_morefrom_manufacturer_e.asp?VENDOR=Antennas%20Dir ect

Alas, they do not carry any pre-amps.

Carlos J
2010-02-16, 10:50 AM
I was at RPS Sat last week and had asked about OTA,Roger(from RPS Sat) was very helpful ,but there are way to many to choose from,i was a bit overwhelmed but as soon as i can convince the wife (and the snow melts) i will most probably get into the OTA for some local HD channels,Roger had recommended a couple of them ,but now i have to decide on a couple of things(tower ,roof mount...),RPS Sat is located in Montreal just west of the island in Vaudreuil-Dorion,i have picked up a few things from them for my home theater room,most of the items were not even on their web site ,but they have come through every time so far.If you are looking for some OTA gear i would give them a call.

Kraven
2010-03-01, 12:22 PM
I going to invest in an preamp; any ideas where do get it from the South Shore

Kraven
2010-03-01, 12:22 PM
The SBGH w/ narods is built. I just chucked it outside onto a snow bank without aiming it and scanned. Picked up everything 70-98%, including CBS at 92%); Dint get WVNY (0%) though; what I dont understand is if I type 22.1, Im getting CBS whereas my in laws get ABC on 22.1.

I going to invest in an preamp; any ideas where do get it from the South Shore