2009-01-27, 10:42 AM
293 is now on F1R - are you getting it? Check 420 - are you getting it?
2009-01-27, 10:42 AM
293 is now on F1R - are you getting it? Check 420 - are you getting it?
2009-01-27, 12:29 PM
usually if the v-code is set for quad when you actually have a stacked lnb, you will only receive vertical transponders. the only way you could receive horizontal and not vertical in this situation is if the lnb is rotated ( or the whole dish rotated ) 90 degrees from where it should be.
it's possible you have an lnb that is putting out vertical but not horizontal transponders. if you can find another double stacked lnb rack you can substitute, otherwise you will have to get a spectrum analyzer or meter that can measure individual transponders to determine if everything is there. one other remote possibility is one of the lnb's was removed and put back on the rack in the wrong rotation. if you're standing in front of the dish the connector on each lnb should be offset to the right.
the lnb rack has no labels to tell you which is sat A and B. the one with a 60E ( or 75E ) stamped on the pipe is for f2 sat B.
you've said that you "added a 505 receiver" does that mean that you have more than 1 receiver hooked up to one line coming from the switch?
if so that won't work, as soon as the 505 sends a 22khz tone down the cable to switch over to f2, the other receivers won't get f1. i've found with the 2x2 stacked multiswitches, watching the display on a spectrum analyzer that if 14 volts is applied the switch works normally but if 18 volts is sent down the cable the signal can fade out all-together. so if you have a receiver that isn't set for stacked tied into the same cable on a splitter it can make your signal disappear.
2009-01-27, 01:35 PM
the 401's are running from the SAT A LNB line which is split with a hi-freq. splitter before the multiswitch. They show as having the single stacked v-code.
293 and 420 are working, Mr. Perfect.
I am going to check some H and V channels on F2 again.
2009-01-28, 12:37 PM
Lonnie, you are awesome.
I too was confused by getting horizontal instead of vertical from F2 when the receiver was set to quad, but could not figure out how.
The SAT B LNB was mounted wrong - offset 90 deg (could be why I got this dish so cheap.) I removed it and screwed it back on with the notch up and Presto! All HD coming in with 90 percent signal strength - and it's snowing like a bugger right now, too.
My setup (which I was begining to question) is working great - 4 x 401's are running daisy chained from SAT A line with splitters, sat A (after split) and B lines going to a 2x1 22 kHz switch and feeding the 505.
Now if I could only use my AV receiver to control switching with the 505 DVI to HDMI cable without an HDCP repeater error my life would be complete.
2009-01-30, 11:38 AM
glad i could help. evidently someone's been trading lnbs around. hopefully the o-ring is still on it as well.
2009-02-25, 11:48 AM
I have two round dishes and was told by Starchoice that the reason I didn't have the Super stations was because I needed an eliptical dish that could see both their sats so I found one and set it up but I still don't have the Super Stations in my guide.
My question is if I call Starchoice and they re-program me for the New eliptical dish will that change affect the one remaining round dish with the single lnb?
2009-02-25, 01:07 PM
It has been awhile since I used a S.C. rcvr, but in the setup guide there is a setting for the single LNB, and A/B LNB. I believe the setting sets the receiver up for the swtching between satellites which will give you all the channels. Setting one receiver up will not effect the other, but the Quad LNB will allow up to 4 Rcvrs so why not set up both to one dish.
2009-02-25, 03:53 PM
I have two different locations. I want to know if I need to call starchoice in order for the Quad lnb, dish and receiver to be able to see the Super Channels in the guide.? If indeed Starchoice has to do something on their end then will it affect the round single lnb and receiver? I don't want to have to get another eliptical dish for my other location?
2009-02-25, 05:53 PM
My neighbour has a 2 location setup with S.C. one with Elip one with Round dish, and has no issues. By the way if you call Star Choice you can order a Eliptical dish for $50, and that includes install of upto two rcvrs at the same location.
2009-02-25, 07:53 PM
make sure when you call in to get the receiver set for the quad type of dish, that they only set the receiver(s) that are connected to that dish and leave the v-code set as is for all the other receivers.
if any receiver connected to the new dish is too old to have 22khz tone control in it, you may try to go to one of the new channels that appear in the guide but either get a red light or find yourself looking at the wrong channel.
2009-02-25, 10:23 PM
The Superstations are on F2 now? (I know the French & HD channels are, but didn't know about the Superstations).
2009-02-25, 10:39 PM
Yes I know that the Super Channels are on the French sat.
I have a 305 receiver so don't know if it has the 22 khz switching or not? or not.
When I installed the eliptical with the Quad LNB the guide did still not show the Super channels and if I tried to enter them manually with the remote it would not accept the command.I never saw a RED light on the receiver.
2009-02-26, 06:45 AM
You need to call SC to have them change the channel map to "dual non stacked" if you have the dish with the built in quad multiswitch or "dual stacked" if you have the dish with the external multiswitch
2009-02-26, 12:04 PM
Ok thanks but if I get them to make that change then will it be for only that receiver (Eliptical) and the other receiver with the round won't be affected?
2009-08-18, 11:41 AM
I just got a new 54" Panasonic G10 Plasma TV with a wall unit and had to move my 530 receiver a few feet away. One of my coax cables is now too short.
I don't have all the details about the external dish setup but all I know is that there are 2 coax cables coming into the house and in my 530 and it's been working fine.
One of those 2 cable being too short, I could probably buy some adapter at The Source to make the cable longer.
On the other hand, I have a brand new 4X8 Multiswitch that my father gave me http://www.shawdirect.ca/english/store/popups/4x8_multiswitch.asp
I would like to use that so I could run 2 more outputs to other rooms on top of also feeding one of my 530 inputs. What I did is plug the AC adapter, insert one of the 2 coax cables from the dish into the first input of the multiswitch labelled 18V, use another coax cable from the OUT1 into Line 1 of my 530. I have also inserted the other coax from the dish, the one that is long enough, into Line 2 of the 530.
I switched the unit on and checked the system status. Signal Strength of Line 1 was 43 and Line 2 87. I couldn't get any channel for live TV so I reversed the lines. Now I can get live TV using the direct cable in line one but the Line 2 is not strong enough to record.
In the future, if this works I was hoping to use OUT2 and OUT3 to 2 different receivers, this is why I would prefer the multiswitch setup than simply making the cable longer.
Is this setup OK? Should I use another input from the multiswitch?
Thanks in advance for your help.
2009-08-19, 12:28 PM
You need 4 lines from the dish to use the multiswitch. If you have the dual stacked dish, you can use just the 2 coaxes, each connected to the 13V inputs on the multiswitch.
2009-08-19, 01:56 PM
I only have 2 coaxes from the dish, in the house and directly into my 530 (dual stacked probably). If I understand well, I need to put those 2 in the 13V and 13V/22KHz and then use 2 out to the DVR and I would have 6 more out available for more units.
I'll give it a try tonight. I managed to get the short cable in the unit last night, going in the ceiling to get it straight and gain a few feet. I would appreciate to have the multiswitch working.
2009-08-19, 03:53 PM
If it is a dual stack system (has separate LNBFs that kind of fork together at the dish focal point, and go to a 2x2 switch) yes. You can bypass the 2x2 switch, so lokg as the have the west most LNBF connected to the no tone input, and the east most one to the 22Khz in.
A quad system (LNBF is one unit with 4 terminals) needs 4 coaxes to the multiswitch.
2009-10-12, 02:58 PM
When I first had the system installed 10 or 12 years ago, the installer recommended an optional large dish (30"?) to ensure a usable signal during poor weather conditions in our northern lattitude. I know they are now using a new satellite with a stronger transmitter, but we still lose the signal from time to time during heavy rain or snow.
Now I'm thinking of upgrading one of the receivers for HD, and for that I know I need to upgrade the dish to one of the elliptical models. From the coverage map, a 60E would normally do the trick. My question is: how much signal strength difference is there between the 60E and the 75E during poor weather?
I see that *C has a snow cover for the 60E, but don't see one for the 75E on the website. The snow cover appeals to me 'cause going out and sweeping the snow off the dish gets a little tiresome (it's on the roof of the garage). If there's not much difference in signal strength through storms, then the snow cover option will make me pick the smaller dish.
2009-10-12, 07:15 PM
Hi Guys, new to site....
I currently have four receivers hooked up to a round Starchoice Dish with a dual LNB through a splitter.
I would like to replace two of my receivers to hook up HD, and potentially a PVR.
I was given a '60E' elliptical dish, which appears to have two single LNB's that I understand point to different satellites. Bolted to the mounting arm,
was a 2 input, 2 output "2X2 Multiswitch for Stacked LNB" Not sure what this is for....
- Will the old 60E dish work for HD ?
- What is the purpose of the 2X2 Multiswitch ?
- Can I use a splitter provide the dual signals for a HD REceiver/PVR ?
- Will I still have two signals left over for my other two non-HD receivers, or will I need to run two dishes ?
Thanks in Advance.