Chinadog your problem could be multipath reception since the antenna is pointing at Buffalo.Of axis reception can be problematic and is frequency dependant.Try rotating antenna slightly towards CN tower.

I will be trying to make adjustments on the following system in order to bring back CITY TV

Location: Royal York and Bloor
Antenna: db8 , y5-7-13 (mounted below) cm 7778 amplifier @ 25ft, pointed towards Buffalo
There is stable and clear reception of all CN tower stations as well as Buffalo

My first guess is that the City-tv signal might be over-amplified.
Since access to the roof requires two separate ladders., I am hoping to solve the problem by making adjustments at ground level. I am going to try to add a splitter in order to weaken the signal.

Any other suggestions?
I am a stone's throw from your location with the same antenna and same pre-amp. CITY is perfect for me when I aim it just east of the Buffalo transmitters (all the major ones within a couple of degrees from here). I agree with Rob50312.

FWIW, I get a similar effect for 47.1 which I know if due to aim. Oddly 69.1 is stronger than 47.1

GeorgeMX wrote: Global should be in trouble, not City. City is the only station with an adjacent channel in operation, WNED on 43 immediately below City on 44. This isn't usually a problem but might be worth consideration.

If you provided some signal strength and signal quality numbers for physical channels 41, 44 and 47, some forum members might be able to suggest a solution

GeorgeMX; Your analysis of the problem seems to be spot on as there have been issues with 41-1 as well. I will use my ZAT502 to analyze the situtation and will report the results.

HWP: Your point about the rotor is well taken! The cost of a rotor is easily worth several two-ladder climbs to the roof.

Thanks for the stellar advice gentlemen. I will be working on this issue in the next 2 weeks and will post my solutions.

Hello, I am new to the forum but am following with interest. I am located at Donlands/Mortimer (hello HWP) and have AD CS2V mounted 20' AGL aimed at WBBZ (good reception 75% of the time). I am picking up CHCH with the dipole but signal strength is low (16db). I have received 36 maybe once despite LOS reception. However, downtown Toronto is on my line and my question is, how much impact will those buildings have?

m81m82

Welcome the forum. We must be neighbours.

Are you saying you get WBBZ 75% of the time with an Antennas Direct ClearStream 2 and that little VHF attachment it comes with? Wow. Congratulations!

And you're getting CHCH on rf11 while aimed at WBBZ?

With my Winegard hd7697p I have to aim right at CHCH to get it. I can't get both WBBZ and CHCH at the same time so most of the time I aim at WBBZ and only turn the antenna if I want Hamilton.

When turned toward Hamilton, I get CTS very easily. If the new CTV2 signal is like the CTS signal, then you probably don't have to worry about getting it, but you may have to add the ability to aim your antenna.

Do you have a pre-amp

I cut the cord with Rogers earlier this week. I now have an 8 Bay Channel Master on my roof. I am located on Roncesvalles, close to the lake, I can see the CN tower from the 3rd floor window. The antenna is pointed toward Buffalo. I receive all the stations that you would expect to receive from my location all very nice and stable. However...

I can't get CTV (9.1) on my LG 26 inches LED TV (it works on the other 2). If I connect old fashion rabbit ears then I get CTV on it. I have tried to place two splitters before my TV to reduce the gain, still no CTV (the cut was 3.5 db and 7 db).

What are my options?

- Should I point my antenna more towards the CN tower ?(However I will likely lose fox if I do that)?
- Should I get a new TV Tuner like the centronics ZAT502 hoping it would work?
- Or is there an attenuator or some trap that I could use to get CTV on that TV? I assumed that the splitters acted like an attenuator but maybe if I got one it would be better?

Any help appreciated.

stephanegagnon, when you add up the approximate total lengths of coax starting right from the antenna down to each TV is the LG's the longest/shortest or are they all relatively equal? How many splits occur, and at which lengths of coax from the antenna do the splits occur? A description or diagram of your cable runs/splits and their lengths is what is needed. Also is the coax cable RG6 or RG59?

I did move my LG TV to where the others TVs are and vice versa with the same resuts. So the cabling is not the issue IMO.

The LG TV is on a slightly longer cable run using RG 6 but not that much, the cable comes from outside (about 25 feet) then there is a 3 way splitter with pretty much similar run (+- 5 feet) to 3 different wall plates then directly to the TV with a 3 feet coax. One spliter with one wall connection.

What are the model numbers of the other tuners? What generation is the chipset? Maybe the TV has an older generation chipset and its having a harder time getting a VHF signal from a UHF antenna.

HWP

I have no pre-amp and run close to 80' from the head to the TV. I am looking down the road to adding a TV, so I would be adding a pre-amp and splitter close to the mast. Do you think that would suffice as an overall signal booster, I do not want to overload local channels or add noise.

BTW, our neighbourhood is OTA paradise. Not too many trees, lots of 1 storey bungalows and maybe 150' above the lake.

You may not need a booster at all if you're only splitting two ways. Try it out first before buying any boosters.

Anybody lose this channel recently? I had full signal for all my channels last week, and now this week I have full signal for all my channels except 23.1 for which I have zero signal...?

Virtual 23.1 Real 32 WNLO TheCW is coming in fine for me.

WNLO is one of the strongest channels -- stronger even than some of my Canadian channels.

Check your set-up. I haven't noticed any changes with that channels all week. Maybe re-scan.

Very strange. Have you ever seen a channel just drop off like that? I will try doing a rescan tonight...

Yes, it happened to me once. I had a bunch of regular channels working fine and a few channels were getting re-routed and some stopped working.

I traced the problem to a poorly installed connector that had come loose. When I was new to OTA I practiced putting connector ends on my shorter cords (wall to tv). One of my early cords was done wrong and there was signal leakage.

The lesson learned in my case was people should only use quality connectors like Thomas & Betts Snap n Seal. Invest $20 or so in the tools and buy a bag of quality connectors.

No hand-tightened screw-on connectors.

I hope your problem is that simple to solve.

I'd try doing a complete re-scan instead of an add-scan. Who knows, but with there being a real channel 23 (ION) and a virtual 23 (WNLO) it could get confusing.

If you just want try an add-scan first, then do a manual scan for rf32 (WNLO).

Good luck.

Still not having any luck getting WNLO.

Just want to make sure I am doing this right... when I manually add the channel in WMC, it first asks for the "Digital TV channel", which I believe is where I should enter 23.1, then it asks for the frequency:

"Enter the frequency number for the Digital TV channel 23-1. This number is used to tune to the appropriate over-the-air frequency for the Digital TV channel."

I should be entering 32 for this, correct?

WNLO 23.1 is definitely real channel 32. And it's definitely the strongest station coming out of Buffalo for us folks in Ontario. I would try doing a full rescan.

Total rescan is a last resort.

I'd try ADD MISSING CHANNELS in WMC.

1. RF 32
2. Call sign 23-1
3. Watch TV.

I tried... I failed. Maybe I never had that channel to begin with...?

Long story short, I ended up messing up my WMC channel list pretty badly in the process, to the point that I needed to format the computer! I think WMC doesn't like it when you add a new tuner after it is already setup.

I have a Clearstream 2 antenna mounted 20' above ground level. LOS to CN Tower across the harbour, though there are some trees about 50 metres away. Since I wish to receive PBS 17.1 as well as certain local Toronto channels, I have the Clearstream 2 pointed towards Buffalo, as it is the farthest away (47 miles).

TVFool's Signal Analysis:
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...0b865c426590de

Although I was able to get the handful of channels that interested me, my main problem at the time was signal dropout every time the wind blew. Then I read somewhere that multipath interference was a big problem with early-generation receivers. And since I had purchased my Sharp Aquos way back in 2004 (the downside of being an early adopter) I decided to invest in a new standalone digital TV tuner and bypass Sharp's built-in tuner. What a difference!

I now get crystal clear reception on 24 channels, even when the wind blows (although not all of them are of interest to me):

4.1 WIVB-HD (CBS)
5.1 CBLT-HD (CBC)
7.1 WKBW-HD (ABC)
9.1 CFTO (CTV)
17.1 WNED-HD (PBS), also 17.2 and 17.3
19.1 TVO-HD (TVO)
23.1 WNLO-HD (CW)
25.1 CBLFT-D (CBC French)
26.2 WNYB-HD (TBN), also 26.1, 26.3 and 26.4
29.1 WUTV-HD (Fox)
29.2 TCN
36.1 CITS-HD (CTS)
41.1 CIII-HD (Global), also 41.2
47.1 CFMT (Omni 1)
49.1 WNYO (MyTV), also 49.2
57.1 CITYTV-HD (City)
69.1 CJMT (Omni 2)

All this thanks to the DCT210 Digital Clear QAM/ATSC TV tuner. And thanks also to the suggestions from members of this forum.