: ATSC Converter Boxes (Non-HD, Non-Recording)
2005-10-31, 03:49 AM
There's been much discussion about the LST-4200a and how it is available through B&H Photo but it seems like they don't carry the 4200a any more. The only thing that comes close that they have listed (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=search&Q=&b=1478&Submit.x=7&Submit.y=8&Submit=Go&shs=LST&ci=1&ac=) is a LST-4100a.
Now I've done a whack of googling on LST-4100a and various combination thereof but have been totally unable to find an hits on anything other than the bhphotovideo.com product listing itself.
Can anyone comment on this LST-4100a product one way or another? I'm starting to get the feeling that it's a missprint in their catalog for the 4200a.
2005-10-31, 12:30 PM
I've never heard of a 4100a and there's no mention of it at www.lge.com (http://www.lge.com) so I think you're right, its a missprint. I purchased my 4200a from B&H and the speed of getting it was just as advertised (quick). I just checked B&H and I don't see either the 4200a or any mention of a 4100a, so I guess they're sold out. You might want to do a deeper search of B&H though.
They've got the LG LST-3510 PVR in stock... hmmm... (checking wallet)... nope, I can't get that past mrs. stampeder. ;)
2005-11-01, 06:39 PM
Well, after spending far too long on hold with their 'Live Chat' support people, I've come to the conclusion that the LST-4100a I spoke of earlier is not the LST-4200a that people have ordered from B&H Photo in the past.
The LST-4100a device that they have listed seems to be some sort of special 'Pay Per View' device that I finally found details for on LG's comercial (http://www.lgcommercial.com/LG_channel_b2b/LG_b2b_accessories.html) website (http://www.lgcommercial.com/product_specs/LG_accessories_pop_specs_ProSelect.html).
Back to the drawing board to find a reputable dealer for the 4200a.
2005-11-04, 01:39 PM
Has anyone compared the performance of the LST3410a PVR tuner
to the LST4200a tuner?
I have the lst3410a now & I'm right on the borderline as far as
reception for Fox goes and I'm wondering if there is a noticeable
difference in ability to receive & lock onto weak stations between
the 3410a and the 4200a ...
Are there any plans to bring out an updated 3410a PVR with a
newer generations atsc tuner ?
2005-11-05, 06:41 AM
I'm in Brampton and use the SIR-TS160 only for over the air boradcasts. Buffalo HDTV comes in fine using a Channel Master 8 bow tie antenna.
2005-11-10, 04:17 PM
Thanks "OTA user".
I ended up buying a unit from ebay (70US+30shipping). The ones that were for sale here didnt have a remote or card...(like I need another remote - I just like to have the original).
Its arrived today at the house! I'll find out what it can do tonite!
2005-11-11, 11:13 AM
"OTA user" (or anyone familiar with the Samsung 160).
I only tried to set it up briefly.
I selected "Installation" -> "no Dish"
The unit said it would do a scan...it went started to blink...and I can hear a click-click (as its blinking)...this went on for 10 minutes...After which I had to go to work, so I unplugged it...not sure I wanted to let it go do this all day...
Is this normal?
if so, how long does it take?
If not, is the unit damaged? Seems not too natural...
2005-11-12, 09:21 AM
Maybe the unit needed to warm up! Works great now! Fantastic!
2005-11-24, 09:23 AM
I just got an older Zenith HD520 used for $75+$25 shipping from the States.
I believe you can get the new DirecTv H20 box with 5th generation LG chip for $200. It only has an ATSC tuner, no NTSC.
2006-01-01, 02:39 PM
Fellow DHCer 4DTV HD, who is in the OTA/satellite reception business in the Vancouver area, is now offering the Digital Stream HD1150 ATSC Set Top Box for sale in Canada to Canadians:
Send him a PM for details: http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/forum/member.php?u=9535
As most of you are aware, buying a standalone ATSC tuner in Canada has been ridiculously difficult, and the reason for that probably has to do with Samsung, LG, RCA, and others projecting too-low sales volumes in their business plans. This means that Canadians have had to look south for such gear, usually via the web.
2006-01-02, 02:08 PM
I see there is nothing on the LG Canada site about the LST4200a, I suppose we still have to import them ?
2006-01-02, 02:14 PM
Sorry HornHonker, LG has never made their ATSC tuners available in Canada, so I ordered mine from the U.S. and am very happy with it.
Unfortunately LG recently removed the LST-4200a from their U.S. web site so it has apparently been taken off the market. Suppliers have said the same thing. Pity.
2006-01-03, 08:13 AM
That is great to hear.. too bad they don't have an office in Toronto.
So.. who it going to be the first to give the unit a test and compare it to the mainstream units such as LG, Samsung etc.. I have been wanting to get another unit for the upstairs, and have been waiting for that elusive $50us decoder that they keep on talking about on CSPAN.
2006-01-03, 12:25 PM
So.. who it going to be the first to give the unit a test and compare it to the mainstream units such as LG, Samsung etc..Taking a look through the GTA Results thread you'll see the model HD1150 in some peoples' signatures because I believe JohnnyG had been selling it in Toronto. Maybe one of those buyers could give their opinion of that tuner here?
2006-01-03, 01:04 PM
I tried one of these DTV tuners when Johnny G had his store in Mississauga. The unit I had seemed to have some bugs in it -i.e. there were problems locking on to stations in Buffalo. John was kind enough to let me try a used Samsung T-151 that he had. The Samsung was vastly superior in sensitivity and reliability. The HD1150 may have changed, but I would still recommend the Samsung T-451 (I have this one also) or the LG unit which is hard to find.
2006-01-18, 06:22 PM
Thought I'd post my intial experiences with the 4200a. My current STB is a Samsung SIR-T351. I decided to try an get an LG 4200 OTA STB because of its excellent reputation. This STB is hard to find as it is no longer manufactured. Some patience on ebay and I found one. I didn't get hit too hard either.
Received it yesterday and hooked it up. The LG was easy to set up the channel scan on. It has a nice look. And it seems to work great. There are advantages with it over the 351. It switches channels faster, has more aspect modes, gets a better signal, and the program guide loads up many many times faster. The analog antenna reception capability is nice, although I don't have a roof-top system for this. It pulls in a lot of analog channels. As I use it more I will post a more significant review.
2006-01-19, 01:27 PM
Being the happy owner of an LG LST-4200a I congratulate you on your determination to get one, kwtoxman! :)
Hard to believe LG decided not to sell it anymore. I've only read one item on the web about a guy who compared the LST-4200a with the LG OTA PVR and said that the tuner performance is just as good. That's not a very big test sample, but if it turns out that indeed the performance is the same (maybe the tuner innards are the same?) then I might be buying the PVR version after all.
2006-01-20, 05:52 PM
The LG LST-4200 ias the best implementation available of LG's 4th generation ATSC chipset: I have the LST-3100, which is the digital-only version of the LST-4200, and can't ever fault it: it is sensitive, easy to use, and reliable. LG's new strategy with it's 5th generation ATSC chipset seems to be to sell it to other manufacturers to be installed in built-in tuners in new HDTV sets. The new LG plasma, LCD and dircet view TV's all have the new 5th generation chipset. Unfortunately, we probably will never know who LG actually sells the chipset to, but as new ATSC-ready tuners proliferate, you can be sure that the LG chipset will have a dominant position in the marketplace.
2006-01-20, 05:57 PM
Another question, Stampeder. I know that you have been procrastinating about installing your antenna on the roof, but do you still have cable TV in your house? I ask because I am curious about current cableTV HDTV practices in Canada. Your LG tuner will tune unencrypted QAM cable TV channels when connected to the cable. Here in CT, Comcast does NOT encrypt the local OTH HD stations that it offers: I can see the Comcast HD channels, as well as a handful of non HD digital cable channels with my LG tuner. Have you found the same thing with your tuner? I would be interested in finding out whether others in Canada have tried this as well.
2006-01-20, 06:02 PM
Hi Chip, I cancelled my CATV some time ago but all the digital cable I know of in Canada is Encrypted QAM. I don't know of any that carry Clear QAM up here. Here's a FAQ about it:
I did a channel sweep of my cancelled cable connection with the LG just in case and I picked up only a couple of the lower band unencrypted analog signals.
In July my 2 years with Bell ExpressVu are up so I'll probably cancel that and put up my CM1111 and CM4228 on a tower. Bellingham, WA is about to have a bunch of LP translators come up and most will be digital. I take it they'll be repeating the Seattle stations up here.