: ExpressVU for my 6 TVs?


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simonzl
2006-04-28, 11:44 AM
I have 6 TVs in my house . Is there any solution for me to use ExpressVU for my 6 TVs ?

And the tuner only has 4 ports . How can I work it out ? Thanks

And is it possible to share the digital programming among multiple TVs for free with certain device ?

Tom.F.1
2006-04-28, 12:13 PM
BEV 9200 will do 2 tv's, one HD and the other SD, with 2 remotes, one for each. For bedroom tv's they still sell the cheaper models.
They have package deals. Depending on the package, they don't charge extra for multiple recievers.

ltldevl
2006-04-28, 12:26 PM
bell suggests to use a quad legacy sat system with 4 feeds from the sat. This goes into 4 high frequency splitters, then feeds 2 sw44 multiswitches....then you can choose what you want to do.... 9200s require two imputs for two outputs....

this is exactly what I have done at my house and it works great. I have 5 TVs. 5 and over requires a setup like this. Some people say that it's better to have 2 dishes, but it's a cabling mess...

simonzl
2006-04-28, 12:31 PM
What's "sw44" ? Thanks very much

editor
2006-04-28, 12:51 PM
Here's how to do it. Get an SW44 and a 3x4 switch (they sell for about $20) Run RG6 (2 lines from 91) to the 3x4 switch. YOu can run 2 of your recievers out of that switch and then run 2RG6 to the 1A and 1B inputs on the SW44. The 2 lines from 82 go straight to the 2A and 2B inputs on the SW44. Then you can run 4 receivers off the Sw44.

There you go... 6 receivers.

ltldevl
2006-04-28, 12:57 PM
What's "sw44" ? Thanks very much

It's a device that receives 4 inputs from a dishes LMBFs (the eyes on the Satellite) and gives 4 outputs to allow receivers to receive signal...

The multiswich combines the signal from more than one Satellite to allow more than one receiver to receive signal from more than one satellite over single wire per receiver. Confusing huh? I think if you get a 9220 kit, it comes with the multiswitch...I got the 9220, but I can't remember if it came with the kit or it was seperate....either way....installation was free.

notjoeyt
2006-04-28, 02:07 PM
I am currently looking at switching from Rogers to Bell and am in the same boat with you guys. I have 5 tvs - including one HDTV.

But, I see two different solutions outlined above and need to know which one is the best to go with. I do not necessarily trust the bell world sales guys to give me the best information.

Good news is, neither solution requires two dishes.

ltldevl
2006-04-28, 02:16 PM
I totally agree... the only downside is since bell suggested this and something goes wrong, I have proof that it came from them. I also bought the 2 SW44 multiswitches from bell (well one came with the 9220 receiver) so I'm using bell supported equipment...so if there is ever a warranty issue, I am convered. The moment you use non bell supported equipment, you run into the possibility that they would give you a hard time on warranty replacement on parts. Of course, they would need to know you have these....but as long as they don't see your setup, you should be in the clear. I was thinking of getting dish care ($5 a month which covers all your equipment) and if I needed to get something replaced, they would probably blame the non-bell supported device (which is the case for anyone in the industry and competition). So this is the why I went for peace of mind.

editor
2006-04-28, 03:38 PM
I can tell you that I have had no problems with my setup. The SW44 working with the 3x4 multi switch has wroked great. Its the cheaper way to running 5 or 6 reicevers. Compared to 2 Sw44's and or 4 -- 2x1 switches. I had a signal problem a few weeks ago. BEV cust service said it was my switch but turns out it was an allignment problem with the dish.

editor
2006-04-28, 03:41 PM
notjoeyt.... I am also running an HD receiver off of my setup as well. 2 3100's off the 3x4 switch and 2 5900's and a 6100HD off the SW44 with room still for a 6th receiver.

ltldevl
2006-04-28, 03:47 PM
Here's my setup...

On one SW44 multiswitch: I have 1 9200 (both feeds), 1 6100 and 1 4100.

Off the second SW44 multiswitch: I have 1 4100 and 3 ports for later additions.

editor
2006-04-28, 04:06 PM
So are you running 2 dishes or are you using an SW44A as well

visiter555
2006-04-29, 05:26 PM
I have 6 TVs in my house . Is there any solution for me to use ExpressVU for my 6 TVs ?

And the tuner only has 4 ports . How can I work it out ? Thanks

And is it possible to share the digital programming among multiple TVs for free with certain device ?

One DishPro twin LNB with TWO RG6 into the house.

The RG6 cables feed into my first DP34 switch (2 LNB in, 3 IRD out, 3 pass through to next switch).

The 3 pass through feed to a second DP34 switch.

I can have 8 IRDs attached to the system with the TOTAL cost to me was:

DP twin LNB $17 US
DP34 switch $15 US
DP34 switch $15 US
shipping $15 US

Total was $62 US or $75 Canadian and I only needed TWO RG6 from the dish inside the house. The SW44 requires FOUR RG6 (two from EACH dual LNB).

Beats the SW44 and splitters or two dishes or the non Echostar equipment!!! Been running this config for two years and not one problem. Just did my G/F with the same config and that is where the pricing came from. Bought the LNB & switches (ALL NEW) from E-Bay.

erazmus
2006-05-01, 09:53 PM
I have 5 receivers in the house (with the new 9200 needing two cables), and the added complexity of a FTA receiver set up to get FTA NASA TV from the 119 degrees bird. My setup involves two SW44, two 3x4 legacy switches, 4 splitters and a DiSEqC switch. It's been running fine for a couple of months. I put up some pictures and a schematic on my site:
http://www.broadbandpig.com/archives/2006/05/a_complex_satel.html

Deckster
2006-05-03, 10:27 PM
If you don't have HD or subscribe to ethnic specialty programming you can pick up the 2 input 8 output multiplexer they sell at Bell World.

SensualPoet
2006-05-04, 12:34 PM
I am currently looking at switching from Rogers to Bell and am in the same boat with you guys. I have 5 tvs - including one HDTV.

Just out of curiosity, since you have 5 TVs (!), including one HD, why the switch to satellite? Your tag says Ottawa but I understand that could mean on one of the "rural" systems where all features aren't available.

I would have thought that, as an existing customer, you'd find the HD and On Demand channels Rogers has enough to keep you.

ltldevl
2006-05-04, 12:50 PM
Just out of curiosity, since you have 5 TVs (!), including one HD, why the switch to satellite? Your tag says Ottawa but I understand that could mean on one of the "rural" systems where all features aren't available.

I would have thought that, as an existing customer, you'd find the HD and On Demand channels Rogers has enough to keep you.

I guess he thinks it's sub par (everyone I know feels that way as well)... in my case, who the hell wants to deal with rogers if they don't have to. :) I know bell has their problems, but give me bell any day compared to rogers.

Call me biased. :)

Bizclown
2007-03-31, 06:07 PM
Similar scenario. This is an install going down Tuesday.
Very green on this. Just sort of jumping in!
No HD just regular tv's
On the phone with the rep:
BEV recommended, 1 TV share controller, as in one views what the other is watching.
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The main one.
3 singles
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If I understood properly a secondary single can run off the main.

So that would cover the 6 units but I'm not too crazy about one TV watching the same as the other.

Went in to the bell Boutique, face to face and the salesrep said, no, just get two main ones and two singles.

The rep on the phone also didn't offer us the digital recorder, I figure, at least for the main room, no? They also didn't offer movie bundles, just essentials.

Could someone explain exactly how much hardware we're getting into? What is the proper breakdown?


Thanks, any help is appreciated.

I_Want_My_HDTV
2007-04-01, 01:11 AM
This has been discussed several times before. You will want 6 tuners. That can be divided up between single and dual tuner receivers/PVRs in any combination you desire. You will need two 4-way switches, either SW24s or SW44s. I recommend SW44s since they will handle HDTV and provide more channels. SW44s cost about $125 each and 4 splitters (about $5 each) will be required. Then there is the wiring. Bell does the first receiver free but the next 5 will cost $50 each. I recommend getting at least one receiver installed professionally since this will give you a fully aligned dish. You might be able to save a little money by sourcing the switches and cable from a discount supplier and installing the rest of the receivers yourself. Please refer to the installation threads first, before asking questions.

Bizclown
2007-04-01, 09:21 AM
This has been discussed several times before...Please refer to the installation threads first, before asking questions.

So sorry, I have read this entire 2 page thread and I am trying to evaluate our situation properly. We are so new to this, I don't know what a PVR is??
That word PVR never came up with the Bell staff.

At at what point of the installation are these switches installed? Off the dish or after the Main receivers between the single units?

In our case, I guess the wire would be in place with the shared that watches the same channel and we would in time upgrade the hardware and put the switches in place.

As per Bell, for our offer, they will throw in the installation free except for the last one, it's part of the present offer. Otherwise, it wouldn't be worth upgrading. It never has been up until now.

Still, our cable package has a better line up for the value. So if our montlhy charge doubles for the right package and the hardware rental, why would we switch.

Our present cable setup offers digital in the rooms we have chosen and great basic and extended-non digital in the other rooms.

Bell people simply did their job when we called for an High Speed internet upgrade to Optimax16. They offered us a deal on their current BEV promotion which has never included the installation fee. It's our job now to evaluate $ for $ whether or not the offer is worth it.

Since they offered us their Essential package and didn't even discuss the Digital Extra, and since they didn't make us aware that other Main Units could have recording features, I thought a forum such as this one would help us get the right information.

We actually don't mind paying a little more, if there are a shipload of new advantages and services, but not double the price, which I think this is where we're going.

Hardware install free
1 month Free
6 months programming at half price.
2 year contract

After the 6 month honeymoon, we could easily be looking at a monthly rental of:
$82.00/month in Digital Extra
$10.00/month for an extra main receiver
$12.00/month in extra receivers.

For a total of $104.00 a month

The support we are looking for from this Forum... Is the extra hardware set up in switches something we can ask BEV to do or is it a Do It Yourself?

The switches go at what point of the install?
If I go with their scenario, that one TV shares signal, do they both have a control and a box or only one? (We would have to choose which one and do the hardware upgrade ouselves at a later point if necessary and feasible. I see receivers for sale at Future Shop for example. I suppose I would buy a new single put a switch behind a Main, use the existing wire that allows it to share and hookup the new receiver.) So where do these switches go behind the main receivers or off the dish.

If we start the way BEV suggest and we want to upgrade later, can the additionnal Main unit use the same feed from the dish as a single unit? Would we be able to put a switch behind the new unit and add a single unit receiver at the "share location"

I hope someone has the patience and the interest to give a little guidance and hand holding to newbies here.

Thank you