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jurassicjockey
2003-03-04, 06:32 AM
If you're already receiving HD then this is not going to be a cost-effective experiment. However if you're still interested, a good quality antenna would be a Blake or a Televes. The Televes is a bit cheaper.I picked up two Televes for $300. They have a local HDTV Info and reception section with a lot of knowledge in it. Good search function as well. If you're looking for a 6000 OTA module, I'll probably be selling one in the next couple weeks. The bloody things sell for almost as much on ebay as they are new. I think they might be getting hard to find new. On ebay you can expect to pay about $130-140 US. Jonic is selling them for BEV for about $310 Cdn. Which DirectTV box do you have. I believe most of them have a built in OTA tuner. If it's the Hughes, it does, and it seems to be a decent tuner.

jurassicjockey
2005-01-21, 06:55 AM
In an ideal world a vertical stack will give you 3db of gain minus the insertion loss of the coupler (approx .5db for a decent coupler) or about 2.5 db. A horizontal stack is for reducing multipath and a very small increase in gain. I have some info on stacking from the engineers at Televes, I'll see if I can dig it up.

HDTV101
2005-03-06, 06:56 AM
Came across this site. I hear there HDTV Antennas are very good quality.
The XG91 looks Awesomely Powerful.

http://www.antennasdirect.com/


http://www.antennasdirect.com/images/91XG-large.jpg

HDTV101
2005-05-03, 01:34 PM
http://www.antennasdirect.com/index.html

Anyone ever use these guys? They looks like they have some good Antennas.

http://www.antennasdirect.com/images/DB8-large.jpg

tigerbangs
2005-05-03, 02:41 PM
The antenna pictured is an AntennasDirect DB8, and it is a well-made antenna, with excellent gain: it is virtually identical to the Channel Master 4228 8-bay UHF antenna, which sells for about half of the price. AntennasDirect is a reputable company that appears to try hard for customer satisfaction, but their products, however well made, are quite expensive compared to other established brands like Channel Master, Wade-Delhi and Winegard. AntennasDirect chooses to sell directly to the consumer, while the other mentioned companies choose to sell through a distributor and dealer network.

HDTV101
2005-07-20, 07:32 AM
http://www.hd4free.com/jbx21.htm

Anyone ever buy one of these JBX21WB High Gain UHF Antennas?

They say it's the best.

stampeder
2005-07-20, 02:26 PM
From that U.S. website: "Our price $179.95" cough gasp faint!!! :o At that price that thing better be able to get me a beer whenever I want. My gosh... for a person looking for a corner reflector yagi, given the performance for low cost of the W9032 and CM4221, I don't see why anyone would pay the price for the one shown. I also don't like that they haven't subjected it to comparitive testing that Winegard, Channel Master, Wade, and the others do. We're just supposed to accept their word that its the best. Um, ya.

987654321
2005-08-12, 09:27 PM
interesting bkgd story on the company
http://www.rednova.com/news/technology/204936/software_guy_builds_hdtv_antennas_out_of_frustration/

eliminator
2005-08-20, 12:34 AM
ive heard good things about cm4221 and 4228.... but where can i buy one from locally without having to order it online?

EDIT: looks like theyre not available locally meaning shipping costs more than the antenna..... does anyone know any local stores that sell outdoor antennas?

stampeder
2005-08-22, 04:23 AM
interesting bkgd story on the company
http://www.rednova.com/news/technology/204936/software_guy_builds_hdtv_antennas_out_of_frustration/Good article, and I like that he didn't just complain about what was bugging him - he did something about it. Nevertheless I just can't handle AD's prices, and I don't see any evidence (published head-to-head comparisons) that AD's products are superior, despite what the article is trying to convey.

Tigerbangs rates AD's 8 way bowtie as equivalent to the Channel Master 4228 in performance but at a much higher cost, so there doesn't seem to be any point in buying the Antennas Direct model. He did say that the build quality of the AD model was excellent, but then again so is CMs so there's still no value-added in that department.

jurassicjockey
2005-08-29, 04:16 PM
http://www.hd4free.com/jbx21.htm

Anyone ever buy one of these JBX21WB High Gain UHF Antennas?

They say it's the best.

That antenna looks remarkably similar to this http://www.blake-uk.com/prod_products_aerials_JBX.aspx antenna, even shares the exact same model number. The Blake was around long before this guy started making his antenna. If you do some digging on the AVS forums, there was lots of info a few years ago on the Blake. I know there was a company importing the Blakes into the US, haven't followed it for a while. I suspect that there's an interesting story there.

bsr2002
2005-11-06, 09:48 AM
What is the difference between an antenna rated 80 miles in Blue or Violet areas and an antenna that is rated 160 miles in Red area?

I bought a Magnavox MANT902 about 2 years ago and it was rated in the Blue to Violet areas at 60-120 mile range. I was browsing some sights to check out other antenna brands when I saw my same ant. was rated in the Red areas but the mile range stayed the same.

stampeder
2005-11-06, 12:36 PM
AntennaWeb has a great info page about the Consumer Electronics Association's colour codes and their meanings. Just bear in mind that these are general estimates and do not necessarily mean that your antenna is the best in its category (it may even be the worst!).

Nobody should ever purchase an antenna based solely on its CEA rating. We're here to tell you which ones you really need to buy. ;)

http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/info.aspx?page=more_info

Sony Expert
2006-03-18, 09:04 PM
Hello All,

I am a new member to the community, and live south of the border in Ohio. I enjoy watching my Channel 32 & 54 Canadian Stations (Toronto), which is a pull for me. However, due to a recent storm I need to replace my existing equipment and wanted some feedback.

In looking at the best possible "deep fringe" UHF antenna. What would you recommend? I have narrowed it down to the Winegard 9032 & the Antennas Direct 91XG.

http://winegard.com/offair/pdf/pr-9032.pdf

I am a serious UHF DX Man, and would get the Wade 4' parabolic however, this only attaches to a mast of 2" or larger and my mast is not this big. It costs $400 plus shipping.

But back to reality, I am really looking for the deepest fringe antenna. I decided on ordering the Delhi ( Jerrold ) VIP-307SR for $176.55 to satisfy my VHF need. At this time, I do not know what to get for the UHF.

Below are the gain charts for the VIP-307SR. (What a monster at 194")

http://starkelectronic.com/jerv307g.jpg
http://starkelectronic.com/jerv307p.jpg

The Channel Master 4228 is nice, however, I believe the Yagi Type antennas are a more directional (directivity) and a tighter back door (front-to-back ratio) 91XG & Wineguard 9032.

http://starkelectronic.com/cmg5.jpg

Lastly, I will also buy the Channel Master 7777 pre-amp.

Any ideas or feedack?

rob50312
2006-03-18, 09:37 PM
THe channels 32 and 54 are repeaters from Windsor ON,TVO,CBC.Either antenna both are considered the best.I think the XG91 performs a little better but i think the winegard is better build.

Sony Expert
2006-03-19, 01:26 AM
THe channels 32 and 54 are repeaters from Windsor ON,TVO,CBC.Either antenna both are considered the best.I think the XG91 performs a little better but i think the winegard is better build.

I fully agree with the construction on the XG91, as it looks like a real "cheapo" with the sections you have to add piece by piece.

Thanks for the feedback....

Sony Expert
2006-03-19, 04:59 PM
Thanks for the rapid response. I will forward you my findings as a pursue this project. As we both love and have a passion for DX'ing, I will take some photos of the install.

Here is some helpful info for some other memebers on the form. It will help explain the importance of directivity and gain.

http://www.televes.com/ingles/asistencia/documentacion/DAT75_panelRadiationDiagrams.pdf

Once again, thanks for taking the time to answer my requests.

stampeder
2006-03-19, 05:06 PM
Here is some helpful info for some other memebers on the form. It will help explain the importance of directivity and gain.With all due respect to Televes, there was a stink about their UHF antennas a few years ago because of some gain numbers floating around that weren't true. That chart is good.

Check out http://www.hdtvprimer.com and you'll find some of his info on beam patterns really great, and he also has a section on stacking CM4228s:

http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/16bay.html

Sony Expert
2006-03-19, 06:07 PM
After doing some research, I think the best bang for the dollar is the Wingard 9032's stacked vertically. They are $34.99 each.

I wonder if JurassicJockey is happy with his DAT's. They are $200 each. At that price, I would have went with the Wade 4" Parabolic. Now that is an antenna!

Yes, I rememebr when Televes was over rating the gain on these. I cannot understand an antenna of this shape is capable of achieving a gain as stated. The CM 4251 did not even approach a gain of 19dB for what its worth.

jurassicjockey
2006-03-21, 01:54 PM
I picked up my Televes for around $175 Cdn (about $125 US at that time) for the pair. That was shipped from the UK. Shipping was about half of the price. I've been really happy with them. I'm over a hundred miles from the Buffalo transmitters and they're pretty steady for me. I went with the vertical stack with directions from Televes tech folks. I think I used 36" for the center boom spacing.