Kennedy has to be right up there with the worst with Vietnam and the bay of pigs.

Heaven forbid anyone slanders JFK. Him and his brother orderd more covert ops than even Reagan did.

Let's list the positive things he has done:
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How about the millions of Afghans and Iraqis who no longer live under tyranny , the milions of Lebanese who have begun to build a free Lebanon. Numerous people in Egypt who are clamoring for democratic change. even Saudi Arabia has taken baby steps
by allowing municipal elections.
All thanks to the Bush doctrine "To seek and support the growth of democratic movements and instituitions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world" Bush understands the old idea that supporting friendly dictators was critical to peace and stability in the world was a failed plan. When this illusion collapsed on 911, Bush was bold enough to chart a different course.
Not a single regime in the Middle East wants Iraqis to be fee, they know that success in Iraq means their people will sooner than later ask "Why not here?"
It is a long tough course and one that needs to become permanent American foreign policy if it is to succeed at transforming the region and the world.
It will be difficult, but ultimately I believe history will be very favorable to the Bush presidency if the next administration does not fold and revert back to supporting the dictator's of the day at the expense of the average citizen of that country. The old and tired foreign policy that help breed leader's such as Bin Ladin and enabled them to motivate young men to blow themselves up.

...ultimately I believe history will be very favorable to the Bush presidency...
Wow, can I have a hit off that? :p

...Bush was bold enough to chart a different course.
Maybe a course to destruction.

From this site (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/donnie-fowler/historians-bush-the-wors_b_11685.html):

He has taken the country into an unwinnable war and alienated friend and foe alike in the process;
He is bankrupting the country with a combination of aggressive military spending and reduced taxation of the rich;
He has deliberately and dangerously attacked separation of church and state;
He has repeatedly "misled," to use a kind word, the American people on affairs domestic and foreign;
He has proved to be incompetent in affairs domestic (New Orleans) and foreign (Iraq and the battle against al-Qaida);
He has sacrificed American employment (including the toleration of pension and benefit elimination) to increase overall productivity;
He is ignorantly hostile to science and technological progress;
He has tolerated or ignored one of the republic's oldest problems, corporate cheating in supplying the military in wartime. That's just a start.

And yeah, when it comes to takin care of matters at home, he really showed his stuff with the Katrina fiasco.

How about the millions of Afghans and Iraqis who no longer live under tyranny , the milions of Lebanese who have begun to build a free Lebanon. Numerous people in Egypt who are clamoring for democratic change. even Saudi Arabia has taken baby steps
by allowing municipal elections.
All thanks to the Bush doctrine "To seek and support the growth of democratic movements and instituitions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world" Bush understands the old idea that supporting friendly dictators was critical to peace and stability in the world was a failed plan. When this illusion collapsed on 911, Bush was bold enough to chart a different course.
Not a single regime in the Middle East wants Iraqis to be fee, they know that success in Iraq means their people will sooner than later ask "Why not here?"
It is a long tough course and one that needs to become permanent American foreign policy if it is to succeed at transforming the region and the world.
It will be difficult, but ultimately I believe history will be very favorable to the Bush presidency if the next administration does not fold and revert back to supporting the dictator's of the day at the expense of the average citizen of that country. The old and tired foreign policy that help breed leader's such as Bin Ladin and enabled them to motivate young men to blow themselves up.

Yes, supporting 'friendly' dictators has proven to be a fool's errand since they usually end up biting the hand that feeds them. The Bush strategy may not win support from luke warm friends like Canada, but in the long run will win our respect.

Edited to add: When will Bush haters stop blaming him for such silly things like natural disasters? City and state officials had plenty of warning and BUSES to work with, and even after the flood gates opened initially refused federal help.

Funny how Florida, with a competent governor and real planning at the state level, you know from the people who actually live there, seems to do OK every hurricane season.

It was Bush who "gave" the FEMA head position to an incompetent and unqualified Mike Brown, and it was Bush who came down from his lofty perch to survey the disaster and quipped, "You're doing a heck of a job, Brownie."

Takes one unqualified, dangerously incompetent buffoon to know another. They can stand there all day patting each other on the back while the bodies pile up, feeling oh so good about themselves.

Funny how Florida, with a competent governor and real planning at the state level...seems to do OK every hurricane season.
I think Florida's response was well planned out before little brother took office. Wishful thinking though! :p

And that's the point. Regardless of party, emergency planning needs to be done. Louisiana chose to blame someone else for their lack of planning.

Exactly Nanuuk..
Same as the 1st Nations and the drinking water fiasco in Ontario last year. Everyone blamed the federal gov't for the dirty water when in fact it was due to poor inept maintenance of processing plants on the reserves by the Aboriginals themselves which resulted in the problem.
But easier to blame someone else for your own self induced problems.

Oh ya Iran is to be trusted...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4850770.stm

Or Russia apparently.

I wondered whether Russia was feeding Iraq disinformation. ?

Ricketty

Looks like W's been doin' some prayin'

Iran quakes: Death toll rising
Dozens dead, hundreds injured from series of temblors

CNN) -- A series of earthquakes struck western Iran early Friday, killing dozens and flattening entire villages.

At least 66 people were killed and 988 injured, a medical official in Lurestan province told the official IRNA news agency.

The state-run news service put the magnitude of the quake at 6.0, and the U.S. Geological Survey pegged the temblor at 5.7.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/31/earthquake.iran/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

And yes, just like Katrina, I place the blame squarely on Bush's shoulders...:rolleyes:

And yes, just like Katrina, I place the blame squarely on Bush's shoulders...:rolleyes:

Or DARPA's secret seismic weapon ;)

But in all seriousness the UN has told Iran that it must come to terms with the issue in a strongly worded paper (again) and Iran told the UN to shove it (again).

a strongly worded paper
Words can't be strong. Angry perhaps....but not strong.

Can't help but think of Team America when Il Jong (whatever) asked Hans Blix what he was going to do?

Many Israeli officials argued against the Iraqi war. Like Shoher here: http://samsonblinded.org/blog/iraq