: Formula 1 in HD?
2007-06-12, 02:33 PM
I remember Jacques Villeneuve slicing through the car of one driver - I can't remember the name of the other driver, ...
'King' Hiro Matsushita.
Well this weekend is the US Grand Prix. Speed goes all-out once a year for this event with many hours of practice and driver interviews etc. Will it all be blacked out even though TSN is only doing their usual minimum coverage? And for those of us who are looking forward to Le Mans, let's hope that they don't accidentally blackout hours and hours of that as well (like they did for the sports car race last weekend). Since TSN is delaying the race until late sunday night, I guess we will all be watching it on Fox (who didn't bother with the driver interviews after the race last weekend). Wonder if they will have the gall to force a blackout of Fox even though they are not showing it until about 10 hours later? It least I doubt that Shaw would blackout Fox HD, but if requested other providers might. Sigh.
Thanks faston. I thought it was a Japanese driver, however, nothing came to the tips of my fingers... ;)
Yes, it will be interesting to see what happens on Fox. I'll set it to record TSN later as well, in case something gets missed. It'll also be interesting to see any differences between Fox Buffalo and Fox Seattle (which I will be recording)
2007-06-12, 03:38 PM
There are so many differences between these accidents. Kubica never hit anything square against his speed that would cause an acceleration/deceleration type snapping of his head. That is what killed Moore, Krosnoff and Earnhardt.
I am not sure about Moore and Krosnoff but a big difference between Ernhart and Kubica is that Kubica was wearing the the Hans device. It's sole purpose is to control the movement of the head during a crash. Truly amazing that he was able to survive that crash.
2007-06-17, 01:52 PM
Very sad day today for Canadian F1 fans....The only way we can watch the US GP live is on crappy FOX 16:9 SD???? TSN is showing the US Open and SPEED doesn't even have it!
2007-06-17, 01:56 PM
Speed = Fox. Speed is a Fox owned network. You are getting exactly the same coverage you would on Speed with exactly the same PQ (actually, probably marginally better PQ).
TSN has it on their alternate feed if you would prefer the British commentary.
Just tuned in to Fox (Seattle) at 1:14PM and it's not 4:3. I'll be able to go watch it in a few minutes then, otherwise I would have waited until Midnight on TSN.
2007-06-17, 02:19 PM
The only way we can watch the US GP live is on crappy FOX 16:9 SD????
I don't know, the feed looks pretty good to me, the same as we'd get watching on TSN-HD.
Kudos to FOX-HD for showing the widescreen feed. Lots of great action so far! FOX's gain is TSN's loss.
2007-06-17, 03:24 PM
Very sad day today for Canadian F1 fans....The only way we can watch the US GP live is on crappy FOX 16:9 SD???? TSN is showing the US Open and SPEED doesn't even have it!As a golf fan I must say that this is as it should be!
Well, I'm just glad I don't normally have to watch F1 on Fox. I hated the constant graphics over the racing for upcoming programming, the anouncers were pretty bad and the constant breaks for commercials were also a pain - hey, I thought we just had an ad break? I wonder how much more advertizing there is on Fox than TSN?
Can't wait 'til we're back in Europe and can record TSN-HD in the morning. I see Fox also have the French GP, but at 1PM.
On the plus side, they did have DD5.1 audio, although I had the audio turned down a lot to avoid listening to the announcers and the annoying sounds coming from the rears that accompany the graphics.
The race graphics were clearer on Fox than on TSN - the position and times, etc. (I was comparing to the qualifying recorded early this morning on TSN, which was also WS. There was some "colour fringing" and also a bit of "mosquito noise" around the graphics on TSN that was not present on Fox. I also recall this on previous races on TSN-HD and on a screenshot posted somewhere on this forum that I can't find right now.)
Edit 2007.06.18 - confirmed later when I recorded/viewed TSN-HD at midnight just to compare.
Speed doesn't have the race today because they don't have the rights. They do air it on Wednesday if I recall. Near the end of the Fox broadcast they mentioned qualifying on Speed and the Race on Fox for France.
The commentary was from the regular guys over at Speed channel.
IMO I find them more knowledgable and enjoyable to listen to. I have often not watched the widescreen version of TSN because of the commentary.
2007-06-18, 01:51 PM
The PQ of the Fox feed we got yesterday was IMO significantly better than what we have been getting on TSN HD this year (I didn't check the TSN HD feed last night though). This looked like it at least came from a digital source. TSN's looks like analog 16:9 (Letterboxed and pillarboxed) blown up to fill the screen.
I recorded and watched the French GP on TSN-HD Sunday morning, but just for kicks, also recorded Fox later in the day. The PQ was again superior on Fox, although I don't like their coverage as much (personal preference).
2007-07-02, 08:37 AM
Onto Silverstone, and hopefully Hamilton will win on home soil that will be wicked, and am sure the place will be electric. Not doing too bad for a rookie 22yrs old
2007-07-02, 04:13 PM
Yes, the Fox feed was significantly better. I watched Fox because the visual experience was so superior. After Silverstone, Fox goes away and the TSN HD feed will again be superior to the 4:3 SD on Speed.
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2008-09-08, 09:11 AM
Is F1 being shown in HD....?
I gave up recording the TSN HD because it was almost always SD.
Anyway, I dont think it matters this year with F1 anyway, looks like the organisers are going to make sure Ferrari win. Yesterdays penalty on Hamilton was just disgusting, especially after the dangerous Pit Lane Exit last week where nothing was done.
F1 races are being shown in HD, as is qualifying, but not the pre-race programme. See also:
Now, back to your regular scheduled programming with banners and graphics... ;)
2008-09-08, 01:24 PM
I wouldn't say F1 races are being shown in HD. They are rather shown on HD channels. Source is wide screen PAL SD signal.
F1 HD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_1#Television
Bernie Ecclestone has announced that F1 will adopt the HD format near the end of the 2007 season
It may depend on the race. I know that the mosquito noise, stairstepping and chromatic aberration that were present in the WS programmes of previous years are no longer present on the main cameras (on TSN and Fox). This could be a result of better upconversion, or of true HD feeds. Of course not all cameras are HD, so some helicopter shots, in-car shots, etc you'll still see the stairstepping, etc.
The Fox HD coverage of a few races was apparently HD, but I don't recall the exact details.
2008-09-08, 05:14 PM
Indeed Bernie said that in 2007 but he didn't deliver. Bahrain was one off (test). FOX just did better than usual upconversion.
F1 is funny business which does not allow local TV companies (including FOX) to produce their own F1 race. All of them are done by same company that has contract with Bernie. According to some forums all cameras now used are HD but signal is still wide screen PAL SD. As of now there is no commitment to certain date when HD feed will become standard. Knowing how Bernie does business it wouldn't be far fetched from him to try to get more money for HD signal.