: XM Radio - Another Grey Market?


jpw
2002-01-06, 09:16 AM
Anybody had experience with subscribing to XM radio? http://www.xmradio.com

Researcher
2002-01-06, 11:34 AM
Won't they sell to Canadians?

hugh
2002-01-06, 11:45 AM
I know they don't offer it in Canada, but has anyone out there inquired as to why not?

Is it government regs or the company just isn't ready to roll it out here.

Do Cadillacs come with them here? ( I think that's what I read they were puttin them in)

Gunsmoke2 - GS2
2002-01-06, 06:40 PM
This is an interesting situation. The signals are encrypted delivered by Satellite and therefore fall under the Canadian Radio Communincation Act.

According to the Government and ExpressVu their interpretation of section nine of the RC Act would disallow you receiption of these signals in Canada.

So if you are travelling from the US to Canada technically when you arrive at the Canadian border your radio unit will then be illegal according to the wrongful interpretation of the law by our Government and ExpressVu.

If we lose at the SC then that's what we will have.

Pretty darn sick if you ask me


GS2

jpw
2002-01-07, 08:19 AM
I can just imagine the road signs at the border...
"Radar detectors and XM Radios are not legal and subject to seizure in the Province of Ontario...Welcome to Canada...
Posted speeds are in Kilometres per Hour..."

hugh
2002-01-07, 08:32 AM
I just had a vision of a customs agent trying to rip a radio out of someones Cadillac escalade.

Boy that would go over really well

Gunsmoke2 - GS2
2002-01-07, 10:31 AM
Ya I know they won't bother with the car radios because the Government and ExpressVu don't care about that. They don't care about C-band.

Which is why this is nothing more than trying to kill the competition on US DSS


GS2




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hugh
2002-01-18, 07:47 AM
This was a press release from XM radio thought was interesting

Washington DC, 1/18/01 -- AMI Auto World has named XM Satellite Radio, America's first nationwide digital satellite radio service, as one of the best new car options in its &quot;Best of 2002&quot; issue, on newsstands now.
Hailing XM as &quot;the much-anticipated system&quot; offering 100 digital-quality, virtually commercial-free channels, the editors wrote: &quot;If you've ever driven 424 miles across Kansas on Interstate 70 listening to farm reports ... well, need we say more?&quot;

AMI Auto World Magazine is a monthly consumer-oriented magazine that reports on the latest affordable new cars, used car bargains and the wide range of lifestyle issues and accessories that make up the modern automotive experience. Based in Boca Raton, Fla., it is distributed nationally through newsstands and mail subscriptions to more than 250,000 readers.

General Motors in November rolled out factory-installed XM radios in Cadillac DeVille and Seville models, and announced this week that it will expand to 21 more models this year, comprising nearly half of all GM models.

XM was named &quot;Product of the Year&quot; by Fortune, an &quot;Invention of the Year&quot; by Time and won Popular Science's 2001 &quot;Best of What's New&quot; Grand Award in the electronics category. XM won several awards at the 2001 CES, including &quot;Best of CES&quot; in the automotive category.

XM (Nasdaq: XMSR) is transforming radio, an industry that has seen little technological change since FM, almost 40 years ago. XM's programming lineup features 100 coast-to-coast digital channels: 71 music channels, more than 30 of them commercial-free, from hip hop to opera, classical to country, bluegrass to blues; and 29 channels of sports, talk, children's and entertainment. XM also brings to the car, for the first time on radio, the same diverse selection of 24-hour news sources available in the home on cable and DIRECTV.

XM radios are available at major electronics retailers nationwide including Best Buy, Circuit City, Tweeter, Ultimate Electronics, participating RadioShack Dealers and Franchisees, Crutchfield, Good Guys, CarToys, Audio Express and Sound Advice; and at independent retailers. Leading manufacturers such as Sony, Alpine and Pioneer offer a broad array of XM radios including models that will easily enable any existing car stereo system to receive XM service (the Pioneer Universal Receiver and the Sony Plug-and-Play) and over 20 models of new AM/FM/XM systems offering many other great features. XM's strategic investors include America's leading car, radio and satellite TV companies -- General Motors, American Honda Motor Co. Inc., Clear Channel Communications and DIRECTV. For more information, please visit XM's web site: http://www.xmradio.com .

qnx
2002-01-19, 02:55 AM
So, does anyone know if they will accept a
Canadian Credit card to subcribe ?

XM4243
2002-01-19, 08:24 AM
Interesting site if you're into Digital Radio

http://www.digitalradio.ca

doktersteve
2002-01-22, 05:30 PM
So then, can an officer of the peace stop you for a speeding ticket, and take you in because of the type of radio he see's in your car?

i suppose that it would be the same as a person being stopped for speding, and having an open bottle (or some other illiegal thing) in his car.

or am a wrong in this.

jvillain
2002-07-17, 11:27 PM
It occurs to me that $10 even in US dollars isn't much. I wonder if you could pay for say 3 years in advance and not have to worry about setting up a US address. Maybe you could do it at the US store you buy it at. Do these have cards like STB's? Can any some one add some input?

Sketcher
2002-07-18, 09:03 AM
So then, can an officer of the peace stop you for a speeding ticket, and take you in because of the type of radio he see's in your car?


If a US citizen drives to Canda, they are legally paying for the service. And since the signal reaches up here, then why can't they continue listening? It's their culture and heritage being protected and promoted on XM and Sirius (to use Bell's terms). And they are paying for it. Customs Canada cannot tell them to continue paying and not listen. It's just not right. No matter what the Canadian law says. Oh but can they ask for tax on your subscription? Hm.... good idea Jean but pretty pathetic if you ask me.

But...do the customs officers have to examine your car stereo then ask your radio to be removed? That can never happen because they don't own the car and you can always listen to your CDs whether or not they are Canadian artists. I'm sure they'd rather look for pot than US radio.

Since radios are being sold here equipped to be connected to XM and Sirius, then tough bananas. Next time keep up with the times and prevent things before they happen (DirecTV, double tape decks, etc).

2002-07-29, 03:31 PM
If a US citizen drives to Canda, they are legally paying for the service. And since the signal reaches up here, then why can't they continue listening? It's their culture and heritage being protected and promoted on XM and Sirius (to use Bell's terms). And they are paying for it. Customs Canada cannot tell them to continue paying and not listen. It's just not right. No matter what the Canadian law says. Oh but can they ask for tax on your subscription? Hm.... good idea Jean but pretty pathetic if you ask me.


Couldn't they just put a type of GPS system in the system. Therefore when you cross into an unlicensed territory (Canada, etc..) the system shuts off. The US visitors could still listen to the AM/FM part of the radio while in Canada.

Unfortunately, with satellite radio regulators have more control over what we can and can't hear. I think when the technology was invented they put a failsafe so that people couldn't listen where not regulated.

I'd love to be proven wrong by an actual user of the system.