: ON - Scarborough, Pickering, Ajax, Whitby, Oshawa - OTA
2008-04-16, 05:24 PM
First time here came across this site and found it full of information.Anyways to stay on topic.I also made one of those homemade antennas hooked it upand got about 12 channels so I decided to hook up the the old rotary antenna which wasn't used.Now I get all the channels listed above by Rawker
except 2-1 global.Wow located nearoshawa borderwith rear of house facing south on a slight hill.
Rob in Courtice
2008-04-18, 12:18 PM
Hi all, I live Townline/hwy2 I can get all the chanells listed by Rawker except for
49.1 (WB) Any one near picking it up? I'd hate to loose the channel come Feb.
My antenna is on the roof, I have the option to put up a tower, but would be a
$ shame if its a freak area. DO anybody close have a tower and WB 49.1?
2008-04-18, 03:58 PM
I have 49.1 MyTV. I get it most of the time.
Currently, only at 48%. on a good day i get 60% or so.
2008-04-18, 08:56 PM
Rob, I get 49.1 all the time.I have my antenna pointed at Fox. 49.1 is there also.Fox is my most stable channel 85-90% all the time.I'm beside you in Newcastle.Here's what I get after adding a CM 7777 .
CIII new 7777
CTS new 7777
CKXT new 7777
WNYO x2 never got it stable before 7777
This is with a crappy 9200 tuner. Getting a Samsung DTB-H260F :)
2008-04-19, 05:47 PM
Hello, I am new to this. In fact a couple of hours. I just picked up a hisence tuner and connected to my old antenna. To my amazement I get 24 channels using the rotor. I can not get CTV (CFTO) or City TV. What do I need to do or buy?
2008-04-19, 07:48 PM
Franco, We'd need a lot more info to be able to help you.
Where are you, what antenna, where is it, how are you connected.
There are forums for each area, so you can post there and see what you can expect..
2008-04-21, 06:14 PM
After reading through the different forums, I not quite sure where to post my reply to my original thread. So if this is the wrong place, let me know?
I have a 42" Samsung rear projection HD ready TV. I recently purchased a Hisense DB-2010 HDTV tuner off of ebay from a seller in Denton Texas. I connected the tuner to my existing antenna which came with the house. After reading through all the forums, I believe its an all channel because it has short UHF bars in the front. I also have a Jebsee Rotator # AR-303.
My house is located in an area in Scarborough called Guildwood. My house is on the south side of Guildwood Parkway, therefore I have a clear view of the lake dispite a couple of trees. After a scan, I can watch channels, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 13, 17, 18, 21, 23, 25, 26, 29, 31 and 49. All the channels come in over 90% except for channels 3 @ 55%, 18 @ 74% and 25 @ 78%.
I don't understand why I can't get channels 9 and 57?
2008-04-21, 11:42 PM
Hi Franco, I see they moved your post to the correct place.
I looked up your tuner and I'm sorry to say it doesn't get good reviews. But it should work. Some sites mention a firmware update.
That part of Scarborough usually gets good reception and your in a good position if you can see the lake and have a tower.
The list of channels you gave sounds like its analog? Or is it a mixture?
If you get channel 3, 8 & 10, That antenna must be really good at picking up VHF, the channel 9 problem might be overload.
But you don't have any of the high UHF, you should get 52, 57, & 69. And that could be a poor connection problem.
Digital channels are usually remapped to match old analog numbers.
For instance, broadcast channel 43 is remapped to 17.1 with subchannels 17.2 & 17.3
Can you tell it to scan for digital only? And let us know the results? I'd suggest disconnecting the VHF part of the antenna, all digital channels in this area are UHF.
2008-04-24, 07:38 PM
I did a little research and this is what I've discovered.
After contacting the seller, the Hisense tuner is digital only and has had all the updated software installed.
My channels are listed as 2-1, 2-2 etc...
You suggested a connection problem, so I went out and purchased all new male ends and bought a new cripping tool to ensure the ends were put on correctly. Unfortunately, the cable running from the antenna to the TV has a join in the middle, but a replaced the female end with a new one. Also, to make sure it wasn't a connection problem, I replaced the little black piece that attaches the cable to the antenna with a new one as well.
Still, no change.
I have taken this one step further, by connecting my tuner to a different antenna located several minutes from my house. My receiver could pickup all the channels perfectly.
I'm am really frustrated!
I took some digital pictures, but don't know how to attach them to this post?
Do you have any suggestions?
2008-04-24, 08:27 PM
Franco, I bought one of these 6 months ago and set it up in Mississauga. During a channel scan, it would freeze up on channel 40. I had to unplug the antenna at channel 39 and plug back in after 40.
If you go in the menu and select add channels, you can see a strong signal on frequency 40 but the tuner will not lock. This tuner is used outside of the Toronto area where there is no signal for CTV, so works great. I like the menu selections and program guide.
I did always get CITY and everything else, only CTV was a problem. For set top boxes, I have very good luck with the Samsung DTB-H260F. It seems to have good channel lock on weaker channels. With these good DX evenings we've been having, I've scanned up to 32 digital channels.
2008-04-25, 09:09 AM
Hi again Franco,
Did you do anything about the VHF antenna, try disconnecting the VHF portion of your combo antenna.
Or you could use a VHF/UHF splitter. The high power VHF channels overload the input circuit on most tuners, so the AGC circuit automatically reduces gain for everything.
2008-04-26, 03:29 PM
What makes this confusing, is the fact that I took my Hisense tuner and plugged in at someone else's house and it worked perfectly!
So I've tried to eliminate some more variables.
The cable from the antenna to my T.V. had a join in the middle. So I went out and bought a 75ohm 3.5 Ghz cable and ran a new one. There was no change.
The only thing left in my VHF/UHF antenna. I took your advise Tom and bought a new 4 bay antenna. I'm glad to say that things improved! CITY and Global both came in at 50-60%. CFTO still had no picture but had a low signal strength. So I figured if a 4-bay helped, an 8-bay would be better.
Once I put up the 8-bay, the signal strengh of City went up to 70% but I lost Global completely and nothing on CFTO? I also noticed that my UHF/VHF antenna picked up more US stations.
Is there anything else I can do, other than buying a different reciever?
2008-04-26, 06:22 PM
Is there anything else I can do, other than buying a different reciever?Franco if you decide to buy a new ATSC tuner make sure it has a Generation V chipset or at the very least a Generation IV. Anything before that is not worth buying. If the seller can't tell you which chipset is in it, don't buy it. From Scarborough you should be getting all the Toronto stations just fine, so if a new tuner and a doesn't do the trick for you then maybe try a CM4228 or else build either an SBGH or a DBGH because there might be something odd in your local environment that requires more gain.
2008-04-26, 08:42 PM
My 8 bay is a 4228.
My next question is, Is this the best antenna? or would a 4 bay do?
Can a bigger antenna make your signal worse, because I can return the 4228 for a 4221?
Lastly, when I try to do a scan, it locks on 40 (CFTO). I tried unplugging during antenna during the scan, but I still can't add this channel after.
Rusty, did you correct this problem, or do I need to go out and buy a new reciever?
2008-04-26, 11:47 PM
Definitely try both antennas if you can. Can you maybe borrow someone else's ATSC tuner (different brand) to compare, or maybe get a pro in who can do some signal readings to see what is going on?
2008-04-27, 04:45 PM
This tuner is used down close to Buffalo where the CTV signal doesn't reach. There is a problem either with the CTV signal or a combination of their PSIP information and the chipset on the Hisense. These were sold in WalMart US for $200 so I figured they must have been ok. For US channels, it works perfectly and can be used on either a tube TV or older LCD. I was planning on trying it again in the Toronto area when CTV started to add PSIP information, but I haven't seen any changes in the last 6 months. Here I use a Samsung DTB-H260F tuner on a projector 720p and built in ATSC in LCD TV. Note that if you use the Samsung, your guide and menus only work on component video or HDMI. So if older LCD TV without tuner, ok, if using on tube TV you won't be happy.
2008-05-04, 12:12 PM
Well, I've done a lot of leg work (over 50 hours running around) and with some direction from Digital Home and the help of a local T.V. repair guy, I happy to say I figured it all out.
My initial problem was the unability to watch stations CTV and City TV not even considering Global and Sun Tv.
Through a process of illimination, I've discovered that in Scarborough you need a 4221 or 4228 antenna (about 40 feet high) , a automatic rotator, 35Ohm cable and a Spartan3 amplifier model#3041DSB.
Once I added the amplifier I was able to watch City, CTV and now Sun and Global all at over 90%.
Just as Rusty suggested, you need to unplug the antenna if you have a Hisense Tuner when it scans frequency 40. After a while, (week or so) I discovered that channel 9 started to work. However, the amplifier boosted my signal from 20-40% to over 90%.
The entire project included purchasing the Hisense receiver off e-bay for $18, the 4228 8-bay antenna ($100), Spartan3 amplifier ($70) and cable all from local T.V guy (Sal's).
I can now watch the following channels:
2-1, 2-2, 4-1, 5-1, 7-1, 7-2, 7-3, 8-1, 9-1, 11-1, 17-1, 17-2, 17-3, 23-1, 25-1, 29-1, 29-2, 35-2, 49-1, 49-2, 57-1, 65-2 and 66-1.
The following channels appear but with no reception:
21-1, 21-2, 21-3, 21-4, 26-1, 31-2 and 54-1.
I hope all this information helps, I've tried almost every combination and have taken on and off my antenna at least a hundred times!
I also found a difference with using a single run (no joints) of 75 Ohm 3.5 Ghz cable. It improved my signal atleast 5% on the weaker signals.
Overall, I am very happy. I would do it all over in a second. I would like to thank Stampeder, Tom and Rusty for their help.
2008-05-06, 07:41 PM
I'm in Ajax, Ontario, Canada and I have an indoor
antenna on a stack of boxes(for best results the higher
you put it the better and more channels you get) facing
s/w, I get:
On a clear day I get these addition channels:
2008-05-07, 04:39 PM
Definitely true for indoor antennas - i had a PHDTV3 SS clone - it was on top of a bookshelf on top of a dresser on the 2nd storey, pointed at an angle towards the south out a west facing window.
I could get pretty much all of the stations, with the occasional loss in a storm.
2008-05-16, 12:05 PM
Hi folks, I built a homemade 4 bay antenna which is in my attic, I picked up a channel master 7777 preamp and I am getting 20 digital stations. I'm pointing at Fox tower (pretty much due south).
I'm not currently seeing anything on global (41-1) but have a good signal. MyTV (49-1,49-2) have mostly been out with low signal. Is anyone in oshawa getting these consistently?