: ON - Mississauga, Brampton, Bramalea, Port Credit - OTA
2006-07-21, 01:34 PM
Hi kneedfreetv, if you are interested in Vhf & Uhf I would go with the CM3020 antenna. Same length as the 3678 but better rated Vhf is 100 miles vs 80.
You would need a rotor if you are considering analog channels. The reason is that on analog if your antenna is not pointed dead on you will most likely end up with some snow, double ghost pictures, and at times multi path interference. Digital tv is not really affected as bad compared to analog signals.
For atsc tuners at times there are members here selling used tuners.
Locally new DigitalStream tuners are $349.00 locally.
You can buy full factory refurb samsung 451 from the US for $150.00us plus shipping etc.
2006-08-22, 01:25 PM
interesting results timmy1. i hope your aware there is a subchanel on WKBW 7-2 called RTN, is a werid oldies station.
unfortanately, FOX's transmitter is powerfull, but directional, and is more difficult to get in many areas these days. I live way down in Niagara, about 20 miles from the transmitter and can only pick it up at 75%. It does suprise me that you have trouble with WNED, their signal as always seemed very reliable and strong.
you said you have a clear view of Hamilton, aim your antenna just a bit to the east of downtown Hamilton (stoney creek) and try to pick up SUNTV 15- which is identical to CKXT-DT in Toronto.
you should be in the perfect location to pick up CHCH-DT when it launches this spring
2006-08-22, 01:25 PM
timmy1, congratulations on your efforts and for keeping us in the loop as you made your way to this point. A lot of people will benefit. :) That goes for all the other posters of results too, of course!
2006-10-02, 01:09 PM
Hi Yaamon / Stamp (& others ;) ), sometimes reception for 7-1 and 2-1 jumps up and down from 0 to 36 to 69%. Other channels like CTV/City/23-1/4-1 and fox remain stable (my normal reception is 70-85% with stable audio & video) . I have one of your CM4221 here in Brampton paired with a Samsung STB. Should I check into attenuators or amplifiers?:confused:
2006-10-02, 05:47 PM
Hi tataynik, normally you do not need any attenuators if you are using a antenna with no preamp.
Where is your antenna mounted ? If its up high like on the roof then possibly you might need to repeak if your cable run is less than 50'.
When Iam setting up a antenna I usually peak for Nbc and Fox. I do not worry about the Toronto signals as they normall come in if you can get Nbc and Fox.
Another possibilty is cable run, how long is your cable run if you are over 50' try and indoor cable/tv booster where it enters the house and not at the end of the cable run where it connects to the tv.
Good luck, hope one of the tips helps you out.
hi guys very new to this
have a cm 4228 just installed this afternoon, point it towards the cn tower as i can visually see it from my roof, went down scan channel and this is what i got
(all 5 bars sometimes 4)
and some others channel
(5,7,9,11,13,17,19,23,25,29,36,41,47,49,52,57,69 some of them are not clear)
went up the roof again to see if i can move the signal strength a little higher, i can only go up to five or six bars after moving from side to side.
i'm about 2 ft above the peak of the roof.
wonder if i should make the antenna mast a little longer???????? to get a higher signal strength.
2006-10-06, 10:31 AM
Putting the antenna higher is always better. :D My mast is 12 ft above the peak of my roof, so just a bit higher than the treeline around here.
I see you get 23 digital while pointed at CN Tower. From Brampton, if you point more to the south a bit you should be able to get more buffalo stations. You might be able to get buffalo on the main lobe and toronto stations on the side lobe. If you look up the reception pattern of the 4228, (there is a thread on it here somewhere) you'll see what i mean.
2006-10-06, 01:37 PM
Hi LY68,some suggestions in helping you get better reception.
As Tom said using the 4228 you do not need to point it towards he cn tower.
On your roof if you can clearly see the cn tower then move the antenna away from the cn tower and more towards south atleast 10 degrees or more.
Depending on the tuner that you are using 6 bars might be a bit low from local hd channels off the cn tower.
How long is your cable run? If you cable run is less than 65' check your connectors. If you crimped your own connectors make sure that you did not strip off the steel braided wire. This acts also as ground and is very important in making proper connection.
If your cable run that comes into your house is less than 40-50' you can use a regular cable/tv booster there and then attach additional cable length if needed. This will work but not as good as a preamp.
If you intend to hook up more than one tv to the antenna the best setup is a preamp from Channel Master or Winegard.
hi tom.f.1, yaamon
thanks for your response.
- i'm gonna try to add more height to my antenna,
- and move my antenna a bit away from cn tower pointing more toward south
regarding the lenght of the cable i think i have around 60' of cable from my antenna to the tv, my tv have a built it atsc tuner.
thanks a lot for your help
2006-10-19, 10:31 AM
Hi.....just new to HDTV as of today .....doing some research on outdoor antennas and came across this one featured in this link it's a DB8 http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?main_cat=03&PROD=AD-DB8 I am looking for some veteran advice on which antenna to get ,I see most people are using the CM4228 by Channel Master.....I am located Mississauga and would like also to know where the HDTV antenna dealers are located ? So if you wouldn't mine taking a look at the link provided and your feedback on this DB8 it would be greatly appreciated.
2006-10-19, 12:20 PM
Hi Rob, the DB8 is supossed to be a very good antenna also.
It has better gain from uhf chan 45+ compared to the 4228 almost by 3db.
Even though the db8 has better gain above chan 45 the 4228 does get excellent results from those channels up to 69. City uhf chan 53(City 57-1) and Omni at 64(47-1) comes in excellent are examples.
The disadvantages is that it cost almost 80% more than the 4228 and more directional.
So depending on where you are located you might need a rotor. You may have to mail order the antenna as Iam not aware of any local dealers that stock the DB8.
2006-10-19, 01:37 PM
Thanks Yaamon for the reply....Where is a good place to buy an HDTV antenna in the GTA ? Radio Shack ????? Also if my TV all ready has a built-in ASTC tuner, is it correct in saying all I need is the antenna and maybe a rotor ? or do I still need another BOX ????
2006-10-19, 01:49 PM
Rob with a 4228 you should be able to get all from Toronto from the side lobes of a 4228 while aiming the antenna towards Buffalo.
All you need to watch HD is a good antenna and connect the cable to your tv and scan for digital channels, thats all very simple.
Look under here for your closest dealer for antenna's.
2006-10-19, 02:10 PM
Hi.....just new to HDTV as of today .....doing some research on outdoor antennas...Hi Rob and welcome here. Yaamon is absolutely correct about the CM4228 being a much, much better antenna for your needs. Please go to the main OTA Forum in the Announcements section at the top and click on the "READ THIS" link or else click on the links in my signature to get to the OTA Forum Knowledge Base & FAQ in order to get up to speed on options. In your area you will be doing great for Canadian and US digital TV stations. :)
2006-10-20, 10:22 AM
As for where to buy, I bought my antenna from Yaamon. Send him a PM if you want more details.
I also got some of my equipment from a guy in Buffalo who has an eBay store: http://stores.*********/RWANTENNASAT
And finally, sensuz.com is a Canadian etailer that has a really good price on the CM4221. http://www.sensuz.com
Hope that helps!
2006-10-22, 01:02 AM
I would like to say a BIG THANKS to Mark aka Yaamon, I am just a newbie to OTA HDTV and he broke away some time for me Saturday morning and came down to his shop and explained to me install tips and everything I would need to setup my system:D :D .... all I can say is WOW ,I can't beleive the world of HDTV and what I have been missing......Thanks again Mark for all your help.....your da man !!!!!!
2006-10-22, 01:21 AM
Just thinking here......so I don't loose and of my signal strength from any of the Buffalo stations ,I want to increase the Toronto stations signal strength...I am thinking of getting another CM4228 and pointing it at the CN tower.Would this work and how would I hook this up.....would I put a jumper on one lead of each CM4228 and put a each lead off the transformer on the remaining leads on the antennas ???? Would this work ?
2006-10-22, 10:42 AM
Rob you are very welcome and happy to assist.
If you tune your antenna for Buffalo and all the stations are very strong and the Toronto ones are weaker but stable that's ok.
The reason is that being much closer to the Cn tower signals there will hardly be any drop outs. If you find that say out of 10 bars you get 8 -9 from Buffalo and end up at 6-7 from Toronto that is more than enough signal.
As a reference what are your signal levels on your channels.
So are you ready for NFL today. :D
Remember if your Fox is very strong you can then move your antenna more east to get a stronger signal from Toronto if needed.
Let us know what your signal strength before suggesting a dual antenna setup.
But to combine two antenna you can use a good quality splitter in reverse. Just make sure the cable length from both antenna to the splitter is the same length. Using a smaller 4221 towards Toronto would be more than enough.
2006-10-24, 10:09 PM
Hi.... Presently I get all Toronto and Buffalo HDTV stations at 50%(5 bars) with a CM4228 no antenna rotor, I guess I get about 22 HDTV stations with a couple of double FOX and NBC feeds.....My question is, will adding a preamp improve my signal....presently the picture is clear and absolutely no drop outs,but I am a numbers person and would feel better if the signal strength was higher also is there any down fall using a preamp as far as adding noise into the picture ? Also what is a good preamp to use ??.....oh yeah one more question,is it worth presuing to get the Rochester HDTV stations ?
2006-10-24, 10:25 PM
NO1B4ME your numbers seem low.
I forgot how long is your cable run? You can try inside where the cable comes in or before the tv as a test if you have a cable/tv booster and see if your signal strength increases.
If it does then a preamp will help better.
Did you make the connectors on the cables yourself ? The reason Iam asking as that many people who do, end up stripping away the steel braided wires. This is a no no.
These braided wires is very important in getting a strong signal to your tv tuner.