: ON - Mississauga, Brampton, Bramalea, Port Credit - OTA
2009-02-10, 12:48 AM
I tried with rabit ears indoor as well as winegard ss 2000 outdoor i get only
CBLT WNLO CHCH CTS channels..I dont get CBS NBC WNED at all. Any reason for this. Should i need a higher elevation outdoor antenna. ? At present i m at 2nd floor 20 feet from ground
it is interesting to note CBLT is 796kw WNLO is 1000kw CHCH and CTS are hamilton..
Is there a limitation in my tuner not to receive low kw uhf channels or it is antenna issue (should get outdoor like omnidirectinal and put near roof ?) or change the tuner box..? i use sonicview 8000 hd
2009-02-10, 09:17 AM
Been searching these forums for a while and finally decided to take the plunge, I dropped off two rogers boxes last weekend and am finally rid of cable.
I live in Brampton in the queen and kennedy area. I installed a CM4221 on a J-mount from the peak of my roof (approx 20 feet in the air). Pointed directly at Buffalo I am getting most buffalo stations from grand Island except FOX (Channel 29.1). I don’t understand why I cant this channel?
In addition Im getting CN tower stations all full 10/10 except CTV (channel 9.1) which only comes in between 40 and 60%. If you get one from the CN tower shouldn’t you get them all?
Can anyone explain why I might get everything else except these two stations. Does it have anything to do with pointing the antenna directly through a tree. (note: I understand that come spring these tree may as well be a wall)
My biggest concern is that my wife will miss American idol which is only shown on fox and ctv.
2009-02-10, 02:05 PM
Mounting the antenna as high as possibly is always good. A CM pre-amp could help (7777). 29 is hard to get for many people- I myself can't get it reliably and I might either add a second 4221 (stack) and/or get the pre-amp.
2009-02-10, 05:09 PM
Make sure you guys get your antennas up above any trees, once spring comes and the trees leaf-up it'll block your signal quite a bit.
I had good signal during the winter from a 10 foot pole in my back yard but when the trees filled out it killed my reception. Now I've got the antenna mounted on a 10 foot pole on the roof. No rotor, but you have to take the time to find your sweet-spot.
2009-02-10, 05:12 PM
I concur - although if the trees are far enough away, you can aim your antenna at the tops of the trees in question and this should work as well.
2009-02-12, 01:29 PM
Don't worry man, your not the only one who can't get 29-1. I was able to get it before but only around 1-bar. Now it's totally gone and cannot be picked up. Although I can get the analog FOX broadcast but I don't know why the digital isn't able to be picked up. Maybe after the switch, Fox will pump out more power from their transmitters.
I live in the Dundas and Winstonchurchill area of Mississauga and with my Ant-3045 I am able to pickup all of the Buffalo and Toronto\Hamilton DTV stations (even 29.1).
With the storm last night right in the middle of Lost I lost reception to 7.1, but 29.1 kept coming, then it disappeared.
Did everyone experience this or was this due to the size of my antenna - it is pretty small only 16" square bow tie...
If I went with a "real" antenna like a CM4221 or CM4228 would the reception still drop with bad storms?
2009-02-12, 10:16 PM
I have a 4228 aimed at Buffalo very near to you and I had no issues at all with reception last night or this morning with the crazy rain or wind.
I think you should look at a bigger receptor for your Buffalo stations. I would say a 4228 for more solid reception.
Question (I know this has been probably asked before) would the CM4228HD perform just as good in our area (Mississauga) as compared to the original 4228?
2009-02-13, 08:29 AM
Hi Steve - Unfortunately, nobody really knows for sure. At least, nobody in our area has given a comparative review.
I doubt you can find an old model, so if it were me, I'd buy a new on and put it up. In our area, I would imagine it will perform really well.
If you want CN Tower channels as well, you'll need a rotor, or you can add a 4221, combine the two with a splitter and aim each in a separate direction. This is more difficult, but the results can be worth it. (This is what I did, so I could feed 4 TV's without arguments about aiming)
If we can help you get things going - please ask!
2009-02-13, 10:56 AM
rays, an attic installation could be a good compromise in your case. I had the same issue with my wife, thinking any addition to the house's exterior is ugly (I somewhat agrre with that btw). With my installation the only part that's is visible is the cable run along the exterior wall from the roof to the basement window (I don't have any internal channels/pipes to run it through). I have two antennas coupled together, and I can do any changes to the configuration easily (of course when my wife is not at home, so she wouldn't notice ;) ). Even the uggliest monster antenna you can imagine won't mess the house's looks.
2009-02-16, 03:34 AM
cheap $30 multistar antenna 4 bay antenna in attic without any pre-amp or amp..gets following channels aimed in b/w south and east direction
i am planning to add another dedicated for each of cntower and buffaloa and see what happens.
2009-02-18, 08:41 PM
CBS NBC are always troublesome. one day i got CBS clearly at one spot but another day none. same with NBC. i had 3 splitters in middle and tried with 1 splitter and immediately got the connection back.
so check if you are using splitters in middle. remove them and scan or use pre-amp with gain control
2009-02-20, 11:01 AM
Thanks for the response Bowshock2. I don't have any splitters between the tv and the antenna so I don't think that is the issue. The only thing i do have is a tiny cable extender connecting 2 coaxial cables together. It's strange because 2.2 which NBC Weather Plus comes in with sound but 2.1 doesn't.
2009-02-22, 12:15 PM
no sound. that is weird. best thing is to put the antenna in outdoor higher elevation and connect temporarily with 50 feet RG6 and try deleting all channels and rescan. If you get sound then it would be just signal reception issue
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2009-02-23, 01:26 AM
bowshock2 how you got the cable from your attic to your TV?
I am planning to put the antenna in the attic but not sure how I will take the cable to my basement or even to first floor tv.
Please let me know.
2009-02-23, 02:05 AM
The easy way to get a cable from the attic to the basement is to use the cold-air return from your furnace. More than likely, your furnace controls are fed through there as well.
2009-02-23, 11:02 PM
i drilled a small hole in ceiling enough to pull the RG6 cable in attic, to the nearest room which has cable tv wall outlet. Then connected the rg6 to the wall outlet (this becomes inlet now). Go to basement to the cable box and pick the RG5 related with outlet you connected as inlet. Now using this and 5-1000mhz quality splitter route the cables to all rooms.
Basically the basement cable box has all wiring for all rooms. all room outlets come from basement cable box. By connecting the attic antenna to nearest room wall outlet beneath the ceiling you are converting that outlet as inlet for antenna source and going to basement to use the same connection and diverting to all rooms using quality splitter.
This way i dont need to face difficulty in routing the antenna cable from attic to basement . only thing is you need a small hole 1/2 inch beneath attic directly above the wall outlet of nearest room.
After tweaking antenna settings etc. you may cover the hole with wood paste etc and and use wire coverings from home depot etc. and route the wire to wall neatly.
one of the easiest way to route attic antenna to all rooms
2009-02-24, 12:47 AM
As a variation on the above method you can drill through the top plate of the wall directly above the outlet and then fish the RG6 down inside the wall to the outlet. Depending on how the outlet was installed and how invasive you want to get you can then remove the outlet cover and connect the two RG6 cables inside with a coupler (may have to drill or punch a hole in the top of the outlet box to get the fished cable) and then put a blank plate over the outlet.
This saves the hole in the ceiling and the usage of cable covers.
Just my $0.02
2009-02-28, 11:26 PM
Brampton: bovaird/ Richvale results
I have seen numerous posts about channel master. I picked up two clones of channel master 4221..they are something like noname brand $30 ..same 4 bay bowtie. Installed them in attic (from ground 30 feet). my townhouse is surrounded by buildings. I stacked them vertically like cards one behind another. The second one which is behind first by 6 inches and moved little bit left when viewed from first.(like two squares overlapping each other). Have seen posts about splitter/combiner issues when using two antennas. Instead of that picked up aluminium coil from homedepot. cut them to 6 inches (around 8 nos) and connect the bow tie of both antennas and coax downlead runs from only one antenna. From antenna i have 1 foot coax connected to winegard ap 4700 preamp (specific for UHF) and then this goes to power injector and then to a splitter and then back to combiner (combines with satellite) and then connects to tv.
Both antennas are positioned south east ( in middle of cn tower and buffaloa)
I get following without any drops and clear
looks like even if antenna is in attic , keeping at higher elevation as much as possible, stacking them with identical antenna and connecting the bowties' with aluminium wire (avoiding combiner to connect antennas), putting a quality preamp (not to overload tuner) very close to antenna, using RG6 cables and quality connectors....we can get all stations