: ON - Hamilton, Stoney Creek, Brantford, Haldimand
2010-02-19, 09:23 AM
Can you specify the trap that you used?
I have never used one and I am not sure what it is, or does. I would like to get WNYO myself on a regular basis!
2010-02-19, 10:08 AM
A trap, or notch filter, filters out specific channels (or frequencies). Now you can set a notch of a very specific frequency range to take out a specific channel, or you can have a wider range to take out multiple channels. Finding one in the range you want...and with a respectable price tag is the difficult part.
Congrats on your setup. What is the high performance joiner your using (brand?). I'm currently using a Holland's joiner/splitter, and rank it up with the Regal brand on specifications alone, but I've been looking for something better. I too am also wondering on the channel 11 filter your using. Is it a TinLee brand? A DIY built? More details would be great. Looking at your list, you should have a slew of analogs...but I guess you've taken them out of your channel list, and only use the detrimental ones. Cool that you've been able to get VHF-Lo 3. Surprised the antennas can actually pick that station up both because it is VHF-Lo, and the distance (week station).
2010-02-19, 12:46 PM
giovanni, also see Post #14 in the OTA FAQ under the Filters section:
2010-02-19, 01:36 PM
The joiner that I'm using is a Nexxus- they have about three levels, I've tried the first level, which was not very good. Went right to the top one- it's expensive, considerably heavier and bigger. I have other professional ones I tried and the Nexxus high performance one did the trick. Also, WNYO comes in on my LG TV (see tuner thread), when the joiner is used. Take off the joiner and the Samsung gets it. The trap is a DIY. Yes, lots of analog, but redundant. VHF lo is via the 4228HD. It'll be good when some DTV channels go hi VHF.
2010-02-19, 09:25 PM
Do you have the schematic and parts on the notch filter? Love to build one.
2010-02-19, 10:14 PM
I don't have the plans, but they should be in the splitter thread.
2010-03-12, 09:50 AM
I have noticed that I have lost a couple of "SD" stations lately. WUTV SD is one of them, can't remember the other off the top of my head.
Anything happening lately that I am not aware of?
Anybody else experience this?
2010-03-12, 11:06 AM
Yes, 29,2 sd & 49.2 sd are gone. There will soon be some changes coming to sinclair's group regarding subchannels.
2010-04-05, 12:04 PM
I live in the Ottawa area, not too far from mlord. My mother lives in Hamilton, which is not far from the GTA. I was wondering if it was worth setting up dear old Ma with an antenna.
It appears there should be more than a few channels to choose from.
2010-04-05, 04:21 PM
hey greg: tv fool looks good for your mom. all canadian channels and most bufs should be a cinch with a half decent outdoor antenna.
2010-04-05, 06:34 PM
I use to live in that area...Chicago Pizza...ummmmm! Anyways, does she live on the North side of Fennell, or South. North side has quite a few mature trees, which may interfere...and depending on how close to Fennel she is, there are a few taller building which you may have to work around. Also the North side is down a bit of a slope, which depending on how close you are, you may have to work with to get the Buffalo's, but as goforit said, a nice outdoor setup will work great. She's in a great line for the TO channels as she's close to the escarpment.
2010-04-06, 12:05 PM
Marbles 00, she lives south of Fennel and west of Upper Sherman on East 27th Street. BTW, that is the best pizza place in the city. Alfredo's just opened up on Fennel near Wentworth, they are good too.
For Ma, I think I'll install two CMs, one pointed at TO and the 2nd pointed at Buf, and join them with a good splitter and equal lengths coax. That should just about do it.
2010-04-06, 01:04 PM
sounds good- that should get you all TO and most BUFs.
hopefully the apartment buildings on fennell are not in the way.
2010-04-06, 01:24 PM
There's a couple of three story buildings side by side at the corner of Fennel and East 28th (and a massive billboard on the building next to them). Depending on how close she is to those buildings (and how high you get your TO antenna), they might affect the reception from TO. Other than the occasional tall tree, and the proximity of those suspect buildings, you should be able to get some good reception.
Goto antennamap and type in her address (it uses google map's satellite imagery). From there you can get a line to the transmitters and actually see what obstacles you may encounter.
2010-04-09, 06:28 AM
I was born and raised in the same house that my Mother is currently living in. I do remember those apartments on Fennel and E 28th. They were my fav hang outs in time of old. My next visit to Hamilton will be in June sometime. I'll post my results then. Thanks for the advice gents.
2010-04-12, 12:19 AM
I've been lurking here for a couple of months, and have taken what started out as a half-hearted plunge into OTA into more serious waters.
I started out with an el-cheapo-steenko knockoff 4-bay that I used to see what we could get (Hamilton, central mountain). With it propped on the bed on the top floor of our 1-1/2 storey, I got 11 channels (never repeated on the bed, but it was enough), and the picture quality floored me.
The g/f was impressed enough to convince me to get a rotor and chimney mast, so now the cheap POS is about 25' up on a CM9521 rotor, with RG6 all the way to the TV.
It's an older Vizio LCD, so the tuner doesn't show signal strength, but tonight I've got:
CHCH - 11.1
CKXT - 15.1
CITS - 36.1
CBLT - 5.1
CFTO - 9.1
CJMT - 44.1
CFMT - 64.1
CBLFT - 25.1
CIII - 41.1
CITY - 57.1
WNLO - 23.1
WNED - 17.1, 17.2, 17.3
WIVB - 4.1
WKBW - 7.1
WUTV - 29.1
WNYB - 26.1, 26.2
WGRZ - 2.1, 2.2, 2.3
Being new to this, I'm not sure what to expect in terms of consistency of signal. Late in the afternoon I got CIII fairly well, but it broke up frequently. From early evening on, it's gone. Nowhere to be seen.
Same with WUTV... couldn't find it in the afternoon, got it for a bit in the early evening, now it's gone again.
I'm hooked enough on OTA that I'm going to build one of the GHs or a Centipede, but for the meantime, is my POS antenna giving a borderline signal for some of these channels?
I'm curious about Global... it's on the same tower with CITY, and has 50% more power... why can't I pull that in when CITY is rock solid? Is this a co/adjacent channel issue, or a POS antenna issue?
2010-04-12, 06:32 AM
I'm not sure where u are, but a decent low noise pre-amp mounted outside
right by the antenna should improve your consistency, assuming there's nothing really close to ya and ya don't overdrive it.
have ya looked at the pre-amp thread? posting ur tvfool will help answer the where's the possible co-channel issues
2010-04-12, 07:02 AM
why can't I pull that in when CITY is rock solid? Is this a co/adjacent channel issue, or a POS antenna issue?
I can't get it either.
They broadcast directional to the north so Americans can't see any nudity.
2010-04-12, 07:49 AM
They broadcast directional to the north so Americans can't see any nudity.
You're joking, right? You're not serious? Please tell me you're joking. :rolleyes: Is this the same story with CKXD 66.1?
Here's my TVFool results (http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d9c6baf2f811fab). Looks like my cutoff is about -81 dB, although that doesn't really explain my lack of WUTV.
2010-04-12, 09:26 AM
Lots of us have a challenging time tuning WUTV consistently. It still comes and goes for me, even when channels from the same broadcast point are rock solid. One thing I've notice is that the antenna being closer to 90 degrees to the ground seems to help; my antenna leans down a bit, whenever I tighten it back closer to 90, WUTV comes in stronger.
Now I'm in a total different location (east Oshawa), but for me Global is tricky -- height has made the biggest difference. Each time I've raised my antenna it's been easier to tune Global. Remotecentral indicates that Global is weaker than City and 200' lower on the Tower. In any case, as I turn my antenna toward Toronto, the channels tune in this order: CBLT (always strong), CFTO (first to come when I start turning toward TO), CITY then finally Global.
Sounds like you're on the right track. I would definitely recommend more height before trying a pre-amp. Sure, the pre-amp helped me in some ways, but created other issues. Later when I added another 6ft that did so much more! Good luck.