holliko:

what type of coupler/splitter are you using to join your antennas, does it have power pass? have you decided on the type of pre-amp you will go with?
goforit,
I don't remember what brand of spliters I'm using. It's up on the roof and I won't be up there until the spring... Best I remember it was from the DTV days. Something I can tell you was that I was very careful with the cable lengths on all my splits and connects to insure the cable lengths remained equal on all branches from source to viewing... I'm not sure if this makes a difference but it seems to work so...

As for the pre-amp I'll most likely go by the electronics store on Parkdale in Hamilton and take their advise as they seem to be very knowledgable..

Robert

those results are awesome,... and buffalo too, even more awesome. the pre-amp should help- read the pre-amp thread, it can be a little tricky setting it up.

Hi, newbie on the forum and trying to get into this DTV stuff! I'm located in Flamborough near Sheffield and at the moment I am getting DTV signals off and on with a set-top converter box from 15,23,11 and 36. My viewsonic N2752N tv with built in DTV tuner will not even run an autoscan. This is being received with an old VHF/UHF antenna with rotor on a 20' pole. From here should it be FTA or a high quality HDTV antenna added to the pole?
Ian

@IANE: Check out tvfool.com. Dial your address in, and the tool will tell you what you should be able to receive, how strong the signal will be, and in what direction.

Depending on the elevation of your property, you may consider a higher tower.

any good ufh attenna should all you need

although if you get one with vhf as well, that will solve some issues potentially down the road...

Hello,

I did lots of research on this website and google ... But I have some questions.
I know a good choice is channel master 4228
But I would like to install my antenna in attic ... I don't think I can fit 4228 via access hole .... Can you take it a a part ?

Or maybe I should Buy 2 Antennas And combine them ?
Or maybe again 2 antennas but..
One pointing at buffalo ? one at CN tower ?

2x CM 4221 - One at Bufflo One on CN tower - Signal Combined via Spliter ?

Thank You in Advance ...

I have the same problem. Can this antenna be taken apart some how*?

I can't see how the 4228HD could be taken apart. Now 2 4221HDs can easily be joined with a coupler/reverse splitter.

I have mounted my 4221s outside on the side of my house and get almost all the channels I want from BUF and TO, I might get the pre-amp to get an additional 2 channels more solidly. Alternativley, I might join my 4221s to make a suedo-4228 and aim it at the BUF channels and possibly pick up TO/HAM on the side. I will post my results.

Also, remember, the original 4228 outperforms the new 4228HD, according to the lab tests through this site. Also remember, the 4228 is very directional, so you would probaly need a rotor, or you could go with a 4228 and a 4221. The 4221 is less directional- does not have to be bang on to get channels.

The original CM4228 can be taken apart by drilling out the rivets and then reassembling it with machine screws once its up in the attic.

The new CM4228HD is not a good candidate for disassembly.

Stampder.... thanks for that bit of information. I measured my attic opening and it measured 34 inches from corner to corner, it just might be do-able. Also there seems to be some discrepancies concerning the height of this antenna. On the Channel Master website the height of the new 4228 hd antenna is 33 inches, but all other references to the height on the old antenna is about 36 inches. Is the 4228 hd antenna smaller? Is this the reason why the older antenna is better?

mtlvince, you'll probably find that info in here:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=95467

My inlaws picked up a digital to analoge convertor and a cm4221. They live in stoney creek on king street and lake ave. There are on the first floor of an apt building facing toward st kitts and niagara. With this antenna they get CBC cfto , chch, cts, omni2, global, city

i am wondering would a cm4228 be able to get fox from buffalo we moved the 4221 around a bit but get not get anything from the states the 4221 is outside

My inlaws picked up a digital to analoge convertor and a cm4221. They live in stoney creek on king street and lake ave. There are on the first floor of an apt building facing toward st kitts and niagara. With this antenna they get CBC cfto , chch, cts, omni2, global, city

i am wondering would a cm4228 be able to get fox from buffalo we moved the 4221 around a bit but get not get anything from the states the 4221 is outside


The location is not terrible- toward niagara, but below the escarpment will make it a little/a lot tougher. Do you have (access to) the original CMs or the HD versions? HD versions have black plastic on the sides. The originals out perform the new ones according to testing seen through this site. You have many options ($...$$$$) to decide on- bigger antenna, pre-map, mounting height, cable type, etc. Read more on this site. You could build your own too.
Good Luck!!

My inlaws picked up a digital to analoge convertor and a cm4221. They live in stoney creek on king street and lake ave. There are on the first floor of an apt building facing toward st kitts and niagara. With this antenna they get CBC cfto , chch, cts, omni2, global, city

i am wondering would a cm4228 be able to get fox from buffalo we moved the 4221 around a bit but get not get anything from the states the 4221 is outside
At Stoney Creek, there is almost a 90 degree difference between Toronto and Buffalo. You should be able to get some reception from Buffalo from your location. You probably won't get both without a Rotor or combining 2 antenna. Did you check out http://www.tvfool.com to see what reception you should expect?

Try rotating the antenna 90 degrees towards the south to get the Buffalo stations.

Thanks for the replies, iam going over this weekend to play some more. The 4221 they have has black caps on the side so iam sure it is the 4221 HD they have I know that the antenna the way it is now channel 23 cw comes in not great but watchable so with that in mind if they get the analog channel should they also get the digital one as well?

I too have that same antenna,i'm in east ham.I actually get better performance by tilting my antenna back by about 25 degrees.try it.I think your greatest drawback is height.

Rkh63 do u get the buffalo channels? I think your right about the height is going to be a problem ian wondering do u have any pics of your set up

Guys, it is actually pretty 'normal' to use a slight tilt backwards on these antennas if you are going for longer distance signals. In my case in Oakville, I have a 4228 for Buffalo only - with a pretty good backward lean.

However, for my 4221 aimed at the CN Tower, I did not bother, as the signal was already booming.

Perhaps in Hamilton, you need to do it for all?

Guys, it is actually pretty 'normal' to use a slight tilt backwards on these antennas if you are going for longer distance signals. In my case in Oakville, I have a 4228 for Buffalo only - with a pretty good backward lean.

However, for my 4221 aimed at the CN Tower, I did not bother, as the signal was already booming.

Perhaps in Hamilton, you need to do it for all?


That's an interesting concept (backward lean). How much of a lean are we talking about (with 90 degree being plumb), 95, 100, ...? TO stations are fine, it's wutv and wnyo that are the problem.