Is it possible that the reason that there is not RTPi on BEV is because they are insisting that RTP no longer allows a FTA version for NORTH AMERICA???

DISH does not seem to have a problem with RTP offering FTA. Of course DISH only charges $4 for RTPi:confused:

Anyone know why Belltv isn't offering any Portuguese language channels? The Rtpi feed should be readily available and has been approved by the CRTC. Rogers carries rtpi, globo (brazil) and record (brazil) .. and fptv, a completely useless wannabe portuguese channel produced in Toronto (probably with some Rogers involvement).

Bell has now even dropped the superliga soccer package which was on channel 403 before. Not that I'd ever pay $250 or whatever it was to subscribe to a channel that showed 3 games on the weekend and no other programming whatsoever; it was the biggest rip job ever!

But what the hey? do i have to point my 92 dish to 61.5 and pick up rtpi on dishnetwork through means that need not be mentioned?

I feel a little discriminated against.

I complained to bell about this for years.. No one ever seamed to care. Seams like they think they cant make money of Portuguese channels.. But apparently they can off every other Ethnic package. Only way to get RTP or any Portuguese channels is Grey Market dish, Rogers, or True FTA on AMC 4 your able to get RTP.. but you need a receiver per tv.. this annoys me a lot because im stuck watching RTP only on 1 television because i refuse to buy 5 FTA receivers for 1 channel.

but you need a receiver per tv.

I hate to tell you this but if Bell TV ever carry RTP, you will "Need a Receiver (Tuner) for each TV"....

Also one FTA unit can easily supply the same channel to as many tv's in the house as you want either thru a cable splitter or a wireless tv adapter.

It will cost you about 150 bucks total for the FTA unit and the Dish.

As a Bonus on AMC 4 you also get SETANTA sports FTA
Also You get the RDP radio on the same channel as RTP.

Dont pay cable for an FTA station...

As a Bonus on AMC 4 you also get SETANTA sports FTA

Are you serious? I am paying $15/month for this with bell. Why would they have it FTA?

There are lots of channels free, you just have to know how to get them, this is why 90% of my tv viewing is free on my 10' c/ku dish.

smootherator it's best to keep channels like this on the dl, yes I know it is on lyngsat but the more it's mentioned better chance of it getting encrypted.

yeah that true.... but it is no big secret to anyone with a dish aimed at amc4 101.

I hope that channel is here to stay. It is the American Channel and it does show the Premiership games.

RTPi on there will always be free in the clear. Setanta might not be free very long.

Plenty of FTA on 97 west Galaxy 25 for a very long time also.

http://www.lyngsat.com/galaxy25.html

Anyone know why Belltv isn't offering any Portuguese language channels?

Simple, because they can't make money selling it.

I believe Rogers and JumpTV offer it.

Yes, i know i can re-distribute the 1 FTA signal via a splitter to all the tv's.. But It would be a great deal of work either using diplexers or full lines to the tvs. It can be done but Im much to lazy to do all that work lol. And as for the poster who said i'd need bell set top box's for my tv's to view RTP if they had it.. i know that. I already have 6 box's lol. ( 3 bedrooms, kitchen,Basement, Garage):cool:
So I'd be happy to spend a few bucks a month to get the channel. As for Setanta.. I know its on FTA right now on AMC4, but i dont really watch it cuz all the Portugal games simulcast ( well most of them) on RTP. Nothing else i'd watch on Setanta.

Simple, because they can't make money selling it.

Where's your proof of this?! I am not Portuguese but according to what I read, they are the 4 largest ethnic group in Canada so there has to be demand for Portuguese channels?! Its not like they carried RTPi before and then dumped it (like some of the French channels), then I could understand your comment but since they have never offered any Portuguese channels how do you know they can't make any money off them?? Why not offer RTPi the way Rogers does, in a package with FPTV and TV Globo Internacional (top Brazilian channel)?!

Why were they offering a Portuguese soccer package when they don't carry any Portuguese channels, that doesn't make any sense to me?! Portuguese subs aren't going to sign up for Bell just for the soccer package, which was way over priced IMO.

I read that supposedly they plan to launch more internationals, as well as HD, when the new satellite launches. I wonder if that is still the plan and what Internationals they plan to add, perhaps Portuguese is on the list?!

Where's your proof of this?!
The fact that they don't offer it is proof enough. Bell is a comapny. Companies want to make money. Unless forced to do so by the CRTC, Bell and other providers only offer services and channels that can make a profit. Either not enough people have called asking for it or their surveys have indicated low potential. Satellite bandwidth is expensive, in particular compared to cable. If they get enough people asking, they will carry any channel that they legally can carry.

Yes their problem is lack of space on the Sats. People want HDTV first and foremost....so that squeezes them out.

That being said I dont know why people would want to line up to pay 15$ a month for an FTA channel.

Setanta is not supposed to be FTA

Home2US uses the AMC4 satellite and they just started carrying Setanta and it says $15/month on their website. Not sure why it is not encrypted?

Globecast WorldTV use Galaxy25 and they charge $15/month for Setanta and on lynsat the Globecast Setanta channel appears to be encrypted even though they have another Setanta channel that is not encrypted?

Not sure why they are leaving the channel unencrypted but it probably is not going to be left that way.

Bell TV also doesn't carry any Spanish language channel...

The explanation that was once given to me as to why they have so many Indian channels for example, and they do no carry any Spanish language channel, was that lots of Latinos and Portugese decide to buy DISH or DIRECT TV from USA to get the channel they want

Ther is lots of Portugese and Latinos in Canada, yes, but Bell TV doesn't have a large Portugese and Latino clientele. If they were to offer some channels for them they will probably get more of them, but it be enought to say it's worth it?

Take a walk in the Latin area of Montreal, around metro Jean-Talon or Beaubien and see how many DISH you will see, compare to how many Bell TV

Hey Ex Agent EV,

Thanks for the explanation, that makes it more clear then simply saying 'they can't make any money off them'. I can see why Latinos would look south of the border for spanish TV as there are no providers here in Canada who carry any Spanish channels (aside from Videotron who has a few). Regarding Portuguese, since Videotron only carries 1 channel and satellite has none then I see why they look south of the border to get what they want. Viewers in Ontario have Rogers as an option but those who live in other areas or provinces have no options for Portuguese TV except for south of the border.

Based on what you mentioned, I guess the only new internationals we may see Bell add are more Indian channels. These South Asian channels must be quite profitable, Dish in the US now has over 20 channels and continue to add more.

because i refuse to buy 5 FTA receivers for 1 channel.

why? its not like there expensive these days. because of all the signal piracy going around. im sure if you look in your local classifieds you can get them for 15-50 bucks cause the majority of the people that have an FTA these days think there useless if you cannot pirate tv with them

The Liga Sagres is no longer offered in Canada for residential clients - this was requested by the North American rights holders located in New Jersey. The only Canadians that should have access to the Liga Sagres package would be commercial entities. Many residential clients receive SPT from the US via grey market arrangements, though...

As for RTPi not being offered on Bell TV, from what I've heard, Bell TV does not believe that they could get the necessary subscribership to make it worth their while. It's not for a lack of bandwith, what with Nimiq 4 around. I have a friend who actually works for RTP in Lisbon and he's pretty frustrated by Bell TV's resistance to adding RTPi to their lineup. I also wonder whether or not Bell TV would be able to come close to matching the amount American subscribers pay Dish Network for RTPi, which is currently $4 per month. I would have to say that Canadians would have to pay close to what Rogers subscribers pay, which is $15 per month - a total rip-off considering that the channel could be had for free via AMC4...

I've got family with the grey market fta's and i've seen the SPT channel offered by dish. Its like an American version of FPTV, except it shows all the Portuguese league games. I believe the price dish charges for that channel is like $19.99/month or $220 per year. I would gladly pay that for that one channel if the satellite providers here in Canada would pick up a good channel like that. When are these providers ever going to learn that no one in Canada wants to watch these crappy watered down Canadian versions of American/ethnic programming! Like seriously.. There wouldn't be hardly any grey market systems the CRTC would just let us see what we want. Like HBO, Showtime and what not.. But hey that's another story.