2005-11-13, 11:28 AM
I just bought a 9200 a couple of weeks ago and I've noticed that the blacks appear to be crushed, just like the 6100 was when I bought it a year ago. BEV subsequently fixed the 6100 when they upgraded their SW and the issue went away. Now the same issue appears to be present with the 9200.
I've searched various threads for both the BEV 9200 and the E* 942 but I couldn't find any mention of this. Has anyone else noticed this, or is it just me?
2006-09-05, 09:01 PM
I am having the same problem. Its driving me nuts. No matter what I do on my TV I can not see all shades of black on the CBC HD test SMPTE bars. On my old SC DSR 500, there were hidden service menus that helped with calibration. Anyone know of a menu such as this on the 9200.
2006-09-05, 09:53 PM
I have never noticed this. Do you think it is due to compression?
2006-09-05, 11:00 PM
Not sure if its compression or what. I originally was using HDMI. But my TV only has one HDMI input so I was running a upconverting DVD player and the 9200 through an HDMI switch. This induced different problems, IE blooming and macro blocking, no crushing of the blacks though. So I moved the 9200 over to componant so that I could continue to use the upconversion from my DVD player without using the switch. As a result I am having a problem with the crushed blacks. No matter what I do with the brightness/contrast settings on the TV, I am only seeing two shades of black, not the three I should be seeing. This makes it very hard to enjoy dark seens in movies etc.. I've tried two different cables with no luck.
Never had this problem with SC DSR 500. I'm wondering if its the 9200 or its firmware. I guess it could be the compression, not sure!
Squidy, what's the make/model of the TV. Some TVs, especially DLPs, don't handle shadow detail well.
Are you saying that with *C you looked at the SMTPE bars and COULD see all appropriately?
How's the shadow detail with a test disk like AVIA?
2006-09-06, 09:49 AM
My television is a Hitachi 51F510 (CRT RPTV). With *C I could see all 3, barely, but they were there.
I use DVE to calibrate the TV. Using DVE with my DVD player (Panny DVD-S77) settings at "null", I am also able to see all three shades of black barely, but again they are there. But on the DVD player I am able to adjust brightness, contrast etc, along with the TV to get the best picture quality. Unfortunatly I am unable to do any adjustments on the 9200, only on the TV and its driving me nuts.
Judging by the limited reaction that this thread is getting, I'm wondering if its an isolated issue.:confused:
Most people only have adjustments on the TV. Each input (and sometimes format - 480i/p, etc) needs to be calibrated separately for optimum picture. If your DVD player has "black extension" perhaps you can turn it on (if not already).
Many people simply "compromise" when it comes to a balance for all their varied sources.
CRTs are usually the easiest to calibrate (yourself) for pretty good shadow detail.