2011-12-07, 05:16 PM
Quick Do A Scan Both CBC english and french Manitoba R now Digital
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2011-12-07, 05:16 PM
Quick Do A Scan Both CBC english and french Manitoba R now Digital
2011-12-07, 05:21 PM
Don't know if its up for good now or not, nor if there won't be any glitches, but for now CBC on 27 and SRC on 51 are both working perfectly. Finally. For CBC I'm getting 76% Signal Strength, 62% signal quality. RCA antenna facing a south window indoors plugged into an amplifier (more to get the VHF channels reliably than for the UHF)
51 is at 72% strength and 73% quality. jumps around a bit in the 70-73 range. (My receiver is an HD Homerun tuner plugged into my router that I can watch from my laptop)
My location is roughly 49.939711,-97.112158 according to google maps.
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2011-12-07, 05:40 PM
I just scanned at my pc. CBC english & french both scanned in. When I clicked on the channels, both say no signal. :confused: Maybe there are still some glitches?
2011-12-07, 06:24 PM
Channel 6-1 CBC in downtown Winnipeg. FM antenna taped to a west facing window. Signal strength 95 SNR 56-65. Watched 2 minutes of Wheel of Fortune.
2011-12-08, 08:53 PM
well now that CBC is back up and I assume for good this time, I'm getting 80% strength and 85% average quality, without making any changes to my previously mentionned antenna setup. So maybe after testing everything they made some adjustments for the better.
I'm also getting CBWFT on 51 at 77% strength, 79-80% quality.
2011-12-08, 11:26 PM
Channel 27.1 signal 100%, 10/10Q in the Morris area with Winegard antenna is pointing right at Winnipeg though...
38% signal using a folded di-pole cut for 530MHz at 15' haat.
CKND on 40 is 32-35% same test antenna.
Congrats to CBC!
2011-12-09, 12:36 AM
Good signal on 27 my way, maybe a bit stronger than 40.
No signal on the test antenna from 51 though. Get 7/10 with the Winegard, which is not great but acceptable I suppose... Might be line loss or antenna mismatch due to the higher frequency. I often get Prairie Public PBS on 16 at the same level when pointing that way this time of year. WIll do more testing.
2011-12-09, 10:06 AM
I'm getting a good signal for CBWFT, but not good signal for CBWT. All my other channels are fine. Well, CityTV is good during the winter, but not when the leaves are on the trees. Will have to adjust the signal box on my antenna to see if that helps.
2011-12-09, 11:27 AM
they are currently 27-3 and 51-3
2011-12-09, 11:45 AM
still getting weak or no signal for cbc :confused: CBC french is coming in perfectly, but CBC english is not. Very strange. And yet, at my mother in law's, both are coming in perfectly. The difference between our places, maybe 300 ft. She's southeast of our house.
2011-12-09, 09:18 PM
WHEN are CBC Going to remap to their Analog channels 6-1 3-1
It's probably your TV. I tried it on my sisters Vizio TV and it remappled to 3-1 and 6-1 last night.
still getting weak or no signal for cbc CBC french is coming in perfectly, but CBC english is not. Very strange. And yet, at my mother in law's, both are coming in perfectly. The difference between our places, maybe 300 ft. She's southeast of our house.
Perhaps she has a better quality antenna or has it pointing in a better direction or the distance from the antenna to the TV is shorter.. It could be any number of things. CBC is comparible to Global for signal quality for me.
2011-12-09, 10:20 PM
we have the exact same antenna with the same amount of cable. It's coming in now....for how long, I'm not sure. We're thinking that we might have to move our antenna this spring, due to the fact that 13 will disappear, once the leaves come on the trees. I'll be checking things out better tomorrow, once my migraine is totally gone.
2011-12-09, 11:41 PM
In Transcona north of Regent and just east of Plessis I get the following using a Channel Master 2016 which i intentionally attempted to point towards the Richardson building when I installed it in early September:
CBWFT 3-1 = 100%
CBWT 6-1 = 100%
CKY 7-1 = 85%
CKND 9-1 = 90%
CITY13-1 = 77%
JOY 35-1 = 99%
Looks like I did a good job pointing the antenna as CBC comes in really strong.
2011-12-10, 11:03 AM
Very interesting...how high is your antenna? Might try this myself.
2011-12-10, 11:56 AM
Anybody know how well I'd be able to receive local channels using an indoor antenna? I'm considering dropping Shaw, but I want to make sure that I can get all the local channels with an indoor antenna, and I wanted to wait until everything was digital. I'm not as concerned about getting JoyTV, but I'd like to receive the other local stations (CBC/SRC,CKY,CKND,CHMI).
I'm in West End, near Portage & Broadway, and my TVFool report is at http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d4033ed2e6fc72e . I'm looking at purchasing a Terk HDTVa or Winegard SS-3000 antenna, if I can find any local retailer that sells them.
2011-12-10, 12:17 PM
I noticed a couple of anomalies with the new CBC signals. The channels map fine to CBWFT 3-1 and CBWT 6-1 on my Samsung TV. Channel 6-1 doesn't seem to provide a time signal at all and 3-1 provides an incorrect time.
The time on 3-1 is 2.5 hours less than the correct Winnipeg time. I suspected it was a time zone problem so I changed the time zone on my TV from Central to Newfoundland and Channel 3-1 showed the correct Winnipeg time, but all the other channels were wrong. It seems like either Channel 3-1 is setting the wrong time zone or isn't setting any time zone at all, causing my TV to default to the Newfoundland time zone.
Since I was getting 2 different times, I noticed that when I tuned to Channel 6-1, it would show the time of whatever channel I was on previously. If I change from channel 7-1 to 6-1, I get the correct time; if I change from channel 3-1 (which has the wrong time) to 6-1, I still get the wrong time.
2011-12-10, 01:13 PM
I picked a 5$ rca antenna from xs cargo antennas for a friend. Tested it at home for kicks in the polo park area and it pulls in 5 of the channels(except city-13 not surprisingly). some sort of amplified antenna should do the trick for that one.
2011-12-10, 01:16 PM
I dug out an old pair of rabbit years from a 25-year old TV just to see what I could get. I'm in the west part of Winnipeg with a Samsung Series 5 on the main floor. So far it's just for experimentation, since I rely on my PVR, but I did watch a program last week just to try it out. I've been playing around for the last month and the results seem pretty consistent.
CKND, CBWT and CBWFT are very strong and CKY has always been reliable. Joy used to work well, but the results are spotty recently. I was able to get CHMI once by lugging the TV up to a 2nd floor west-facing bedroom, but it wasn't reliable.
I'll post my results since they show that CBWFT seems to have a consistently better signal than CBWT. My TV has a meter with 10 bars which I think is signal strength and a SNR in dB.
Number Name Bars SNR SNR2
3-1 CBWFT 10 33 35
6-1 CBWT 8-10 28 33
7-1 CKY 6-7 25 30
9-1 CKND 10 30 30
13-1 CHMI 3* 0 20
35-1 CIIT 8* 0 28
* = second floor only
EDIT: I updated my chart to include the second floor (SNR2). I was able to pick up CHMI and CIIT by connecting some coax to the vintage rabbit ears and moving them to the second floor. All the signals were stable with no dropouts.
2011-12-10, 02:03 PM
Here's what I've been able to get between 12:30 and 1 p.m. today at my location using a small indoor antenna:
SRC 3.1 - 90%, but with a few glitches
CBC 6.1 - 90%
CTV 7.1 - No signal (I'm on the north side of the building, so there's loads of clutter between me and the transmitter)
Global 9.1 - 90%
Citytv 13.1 - 90% near a west-facing window, no signal deeper indoors
CIIT 35.1 - 100%
2011-12-10, 06:30 PM
In Marchand, MB (20 mins southeast of Steinbach) with rooftop Winegard HD8200U antenna with pre-amp and distribution amp but no pole.
CKY 7.1 = +90% at all times no matter which direction I point my antenna
CITY13-1 = Approximately 70%.
JOY 35-1 = Approximately 50% and clear at all times.
CKND 9-1 = No signal when it is warmer than -5 degrees Celsius, otherwise it works well. 50% today.
CBWT 6-1 = No signal or maximum 30% on a cold clear night.
CBWFT 3-1 = No signal or maximum 30% on a cold clear night.
KNRR = No signal
TVFool says I should be able to get all the above channels with my deep fringe antenna. I'll be forced to install a 60ft tower/pole or go to satellite TV to receive CBC, CKND and possibly JOY when spring comes around. I received all these channels crystal clear before the digital conversion with a much smaller antenna. I'm particularly disappointed with CBC as they can't even match CKND's poor performance.