: MB/SK - Winnipeg, Brandon, Regina, Saskatoon, Prairies - OTA
2006-08-10, 01:45 PM
I have also read about people in SK and MB getting OTA from Minot ND, as above.Hi and welcome here. Unfortunately the only part of SK that reliably gets the Minot signals is the Southeast (Estevan and areas down there). I've heard no word from CBC or CTV about any move to start up DT transmissions in Regina.
2006-08-14, 06:11 PM
Thanks Stampeder. So Estevan and the extreme south east corner of SK would "reliably get the Minot signal". I guess that Regina would be an extreme deep fringe area, or is it beyonf the extreme deep fringe area.
Taking into consideration the very flat land in south east SK, might it be posssible to attempt it in Regina, or is it simply out of the question?
Has anyone tried?
2006-09-04, 01:09 AM
My wife grew up in Regina. She told me that all the American stations were from Minot on Cable until they switched over to the ones on Satellite later on. So, in theory, if you had a good enough attenna, you should get stations from Minot. She said this was about 26 years ago in Regina. If the cable companies before could provide this signals, I think the possibility exists with an amazing attenna setup.
2006-09-04, 01:27 PM
... in theory, if you had a good enough attenna, you should get stations from Minot.I worked in the cable tv business in the 1970s and generally in the '60s through '80s many Canadian cable companies got their U.S. channel feeds from border reception sites with pro OTA gear on dedicated microwave links run the by telephone companies. In the case of Regina, I would guess that the local cable company in Estevan received the Minot signals and sent them over SaskTel microwave to other cable companies. Calgary and Edmonton got Spokane stations in a similar fashion.
2006-11-10, 01:19 PM
I was looking through the FCC database and saw that PBS Grand Forks, North Dakota has received a Construction Permit to build-out an ATSC station on Channel 56 UHF. If someone emails Prairie Public Broadcasting Inc. and gets a go-live date, please share it with us.
Here is the Service Area Map at 41 dBu, which means that Winnipeg might have enough signal strength to get it with high quality UHF gear:
2006-11-10, 02:31 PM
KNRR-DT Pembina, North Dakota has an FCC Construction Permit for a whopping strong Digital OTA station to be located directly on the U.S. side of the Canadian border with an ERP of 750kW! This will BOOM into Winnipeg and across the province's prairie terrain :) Here is the Service Area Map at 41dBu, indictating to me that wide areas of Southern Manitoba will get it with proper outdoor OTA gear. If someone emails KNRR and gets a go-live date, please share it with us.
2006-11-10, 02:50 PM
ha im sure thats all intentional, as KNRR realizes they have a market of 600 000 plus very much within reach using a strong transmitter.
bigger viewer market = more $$
fortanately we all benefit.
2006-11-10, 02:52 PM
Yup, that kind of thing with border stations has been going on for decades in ND/MB:
2006-11-10, 03:23 PM
Location - Winnipeg. Have dropped Expressview - would like to go OTA. Advice on gear would appreciated. I was thinking of using existing mount from dish and extending pipe to 40" then attaching CM4228 with CM7777 Preamp. I think I'm about 10-15 km away from TV stations here. I'll need an attenuator?Brand? Rotator necessary - how do I mount it with this set-up?Hi Sal, and welcome here. :) For Winnipeg it is still a waiting game for the North Dakota digital OTA stations and of course CBC-HD Winnipeg. To be sure that you will have a good opportunity to get the Canadian and US stations I would opt for the CM4228 that you mentioned, and if the new US stations seem to be weak you will need to go with a higher location for the antenna. You might need the CM7777 for the U.S. stations, but definitely not for locals, so you might have to experiment with attenuation as the situation comes up. It might be possible to leave the CM4228 pointed at Pembina/Grand Forks unattenuated all the time with the CM7777 on it and get the Winnipeg stations via the antenna's back lobe.
Regarding a rotor, which part of Winnipeg are you in?
Located in the north east corner of Winnipeg.
2006-11-14, 05:35 PM
Okay Sal, the good thing is that almost all the Winnipeg and ND stations are in a line to the SSE of you so you can solid-mount and peak your antenna for CTV and KNRR. The problem you'll have is that the CBC is off to the west from you and OMNI is downtown, so they might be too far to the side for your antenna to grab, although sometimes off-axis stations can come in really well. If not, you should probably put up a rotor and then everything will be fine. KNRR Pembina is going to work just great, but I think if you want to reliably get Grand Forks stations you would need Deepest Fringe gear but I cannot guarantee any success with that - I hope someone can give us their experiences with trying to get those.
Thanks for the information. Sounds like a good start is CM 4228, CM 7777 preamp, a rotator(model/brand?). Since my exisitng satellite mount is about 3' below top of chimney - how high beyond top would you suggest? Can I recycle this mount and add mast to achieve the desired height for cm4228? Exisiting coaix cable - can I reuse it? Additional wiring run required for rotator? Attenutor required? Bought MonsterHTS850 cable management along with Samsung LNS3251D with the built-in ASTC receiber. The salesperson said that if I plugged the antenna cable into it first that the internal ASTC receiver would be protected - correct?
Sorry - newbie - alot of dumb questions?
2006-11-15, 02:14 PM
Happy to help out. In your case if you're trying to get the setup done before the worst part of winter you could just put up what you've got and aim it at KNRR/CTV. If you have the time/safety to go back up again soon, use your present gear as a baseline and then try other things later to see if they improve the situation. That way you're conserving your $$$ ;)
Regarding your Monster device question, I don't have experience with that but you could ask about it in the A/V Cables and Power Bars: AR, APC, Belkin, Monster, Panamax thread:
2006-12-26, 04:11 PM
Hi 008, I've moved your post into this thread so have a look from the first post onwards and let us know if you need further info.
2006-12-26, 05:55 PM
I hope CBC Winnipeg starts sending out a digital hd feed soon. Any word on that?
And would I be able to get the "future" CBC HD feed with an indoor rabbit ear antenna? Or would the signal strength be too degraded?
2006-12-26, 06:50 PM
ohmagic make sure you put your location into your user profile or specify it when using the OTA Forum. Which part of Winnipeg are you in?
Regarding when CBC HD would come to Winnipeg, its all up in the air now because the CRTC is evaluating what to do about the future of Digital OTA across Canada. If they order an Analogue cutover to Digital OTA, rest assured that Winnipeg will get Digital OTA stations and probably early amongst cities without present ones.
For now we wait and see.
2006-12-28, 07:41 PM
I'm in East St. Paul, Manitoba. Its north east of the city.
The horrible thing about Winnipeg is we get nothing.
The GTA region of Ontario is blessed with a bunch of Canadian OTA HD and American OTA HD due to the being so close to Buffalo and other close American cities.
The closest FOX station is Pembina, ND. And from what I understand reading this forum, they don't send out HD yet.
Wow, we don't even have CTV HD or Citytv HD. Do these channels in Winnipeg even own HD equipment?
Winnipeg sucks big time for OTA HD.
Shaw isnt too great here aswell, I get no HD over QAM tuner.
I got all the music channels (no picture) and all the on-demand channels that sometimes play porn or movies.
stampeder, thanks for the update.
2007-01-12, 02:40 PM
Hi, I'm very new to HDTV.
I just bought a new 32" HDTV yesterday with an integrated ATSC tuner. I tried doing a scan for ATSC channels on it but it doesn't pick up anything in Winnipeg. I have not bothered to subscribe to Shaw or any other service because I feel it's a ripoff and a I mainly wanted the HDTV to watch Videos I download off the net from my PC to it. Still, If I could get a few "Free" OTA channels that'd be nice. Is there anyway to pickup "KNRR" from Pembina, North Dakota in Winnipeg with a good antenna, or perhaps Prarie Public Television?