If you're in need of a high gain VHF antenna, I'd definitely check with your local Delhi dealer, as they may have more VIP307's available.

The more I listen, the more I want a rotator. I figure if channels and towers move around like discussed here, I'd be able to re-aim the antenna without having to call an installer again. My setup will be fairly static because my Windows Media Center does not control a rotator, but it would be nice to play around, probably just once a year. I'm guessing I don't really lose anything using a rotator except for the expense needed $$$. I figure the $$$ upfront for a rotator would save me 1 or more service calls. My hat to those who install themselves, i'm just too scared to go up there. :)

Hmm, thanks for the tips re. WWNY/WNYF guys. I'll wait until the WNYF repeater lights up and see what I can put together.

I picked up a Source mini-state VHF/UHF antenna for $200 and I am quite satisfied with the reception results. The antenna is mounted 30' above ground on my tower and has the rotator built in with the rf remote.

I am getting all the Ottawa analog & digital stations as well as both PBS 18 Norwood and 57 from Plattsburg (70% signal on S meter)

I am also getting CJOH ch 8 from Lancaster very clear as well as CKWS 36 from Smithsfalls.

My receiver detects WWNY but can't lock into the signal as its just too weak.

2kool4u, have you considered a pre-amp to pull in that weak signal.

2kool4u, have you considered a pre-amp to pull in that weak signal.
I believe this model already has an internal preamp or amp, this is an "amplified" antenna. My guess is adding a preamp to an already preamped or amped signal would likely not add value. IF you're not satisfied, you'd likely want to change the whole amplified antenna to a better antenna/preamp combination instead (but poster is happy with results). But this is just a semi-informed opinion based on my EE background which I haven't used in a while on wireless... please teach me if i'm wrong.

Correct, it is already amplified, so 2kool4u what you see is what you get.

I live in Bridlewood and 4-1 has been quite consistant for me at 97%, along with 20-1 & 20-2. But 27-1 has been a pain.

A few hours ago 27-1 was at 62% and now it's gone, entirely. I also used to get 66-1 as well yesterday.

I use one of those flat, square amplified omni-directional antenna from RCA, indoors on my second floor. I rent the house and i'm not allowed to mount an antenna anywhere on its exterior.

I live in Bridlewood and 4-1 has been quite consistant for me at 97%, along with 20-1 & 20-2. But 27-1 has been a pain.

A few hours ago 27-1 was at 62% and now it's gone, entirely. I also used to get 66-1 as well yesterday.


27 is the weakest signal for me (though TVFool puts 66 and 20 lower that 27) but I don't lose it altogether. 4 has been fine too. I did lose audio on HC analog stations on Wednesday night. Maybe the rain?

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27 is the weakest signal for me (though TVFool puts 66 and 20 lower that 27) but I don't lose it altogether. 4 has been fine too. I did lose audio on HC analog stations on Wednesday night. Maybe the rain?

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27-1 is completely gone for me. I've tried to get it several times but I guess I need to get a larger antenna - Or get something up in the attic.

60 is pretty clear for me on analog and 14 would likely improve with an attic installation. But I don't watch OMNI alot so i'm wondering if I should bother. Perhaps a larger omni-directional up to the cieling on my second floor could to the trick. I guess i'm going to wait to see what CITY's recemption is like before investing in a larger antenna. Though I might be tempted to get a Rogers HDTV terminal on boxing day. :)

I also live in Bridlewood. I am getting a SNR reading of 27 on channel 27-1 and 22 on 66-1. Running an AMD Dual Core PC, Hauppauge 950Q tunner USB stick and an exterior CM4228 which is about 10 feet off the ground pointed at Herbert's Corner. I also have a Kitz Tech amp located near the antenna. Both channels came in fully all day.

I also live in Bridlewood. I am getting a SNR reading of 27 on channel 27-1 and 22 on 66-1. Running an AMD Dual Core PC, Hauppauge 950Q tunner USB stick and an exterior CM4228 which is about 10 feet off the ground pointed at Herbert's Corner. I also have a Kitz Tech amp located near the antenna. Both channels came in fully all day.
I got them at a good strength last month but I do remember tuning in when it was unusually warm.

I'm probably going to invest in a larger omnidirectional later on, possibly the HDMS9100.

My UHF setup consists of a couple of wideband GHs (one for each of the towers) in the attic and a preamp to compensate for the losses in the whole house distribution system. All the digital channel signals got stronger over the past couple of months, most notably 66.1 which increased by a good 6dB. The trees in the area are still relatively small so I do not think the fall has anything to do with it - especially towards HC where there are no trees visible behind my neighbours house, which roof I have to clear.

I'm probably going to invest in a larger omnidirectional later on, possibly the HDMS9100.

FYI, the HDMS9100 isn't omnidirectional (it has an internal rotor). Not sure if any of the omnidirectional antennas are significantly better than others. Since most have a built in pre-amp, the most significant difference might be how good that is.

I have good results from my bungalow in Stittsville (http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d772150fbbf74d7). I started with a channel master 4 bay in the attic with a Kitz Technology preamp and this weekend tried the Terk CFDTV1A (curious since my brother had good luck with it and on special) replacing the supplied amp with the Kitz Technology. I get 4.1, 9, 9.1, 11, 13, 14, 20.1, 20.2, 24, 27.1, 30, 32, 34, 40, 43, 60, 65 and 66.1. Also 4 and 6, however snowy (and a couple of the french stations are ghosting). The Terk added 4, 6 and 66.1 (~50% signal strength) and improved picture quality on 43 and 65. Next up is to tweak the attic antenna some more and study what mlord is doing to get PBS.

FYI, the HDMS9100 isn't omnidirectional (it has an internal rotor). Not sure if any of the omnidirectional antennas are significantly better than others. Since most have a built in pre-amp, the most significant difference might be how good that is.
Oh. I thought it was omnidirectional. Oh well, I only have two transmitters to point to anyway to get all of the local channels - Cape Fortune and Herbert`s Corners.

CKWS is interesting but I don`t think I would watch it regularly.

BTW, does anyone know what the CRC-DT channels are ?

BTW, does anyone know what the CRC-DT channels are ?

I read somewhere here (but I can't find the thread now) that CRC-DT channels are part of a trial CRTC will do on mobile OTA in Ottawa. I get four of them my TV fool chart but they aren't transmitting right now I don't think (When they do will standard OTA equipment pick them up?)

Hi
I'm hoping for some advice on what to do next. Have a hacked CM4221HD without reflector at 25 feet and able to get all Ottawa Channels. VHF Hi not so great but watchable. 13 sometimes losing audio. Analog from Camp Fortune quite good, analog from Herberts corners (43) not great

All digital coming with nm around 28-29

I exactly on the line between Camp Fortune and Herberts Corners - here's my TV fool: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3dbc27bd2d841613

Two questions
I've though of ganging two CM4221HDs, (putting the reflector back on) pointing one at HC and one at CF to get better analog signals from both. From experience this might also bring in VHF high a bit better. Does that make sense?

Is there any hope of me getting any US stations, based on my TV fool? If so, what set up to experiment with? (The questions are connected: If there's a chance of US stations I'm guessing it won't be with CM4221HDs so I might go with something different).

I get 4.1, 9, 9.1, 11, 13, 14, 20.1, 20.2, 24, 27.1, 30, 32, 34, 40, 43, 60, 65 and 66.1. Also 4 and 6, however snowy (and a couple of the french stations are ghosting). The Terk added 4, 6 and 66.1 (~50% signal strength) and improved picture quality on 43 and 65.

Nice results Gregory46. Looks like you are east of me. Are you able to pull in CKWS-TV on 36 at all?

I've though of ganging two CM4221HDs, (putting the reflector back on) pointing one at HC and one at CF to get better analog signals from both. From experience this might also bring in VHF high a bit better. Does that make sense?

I don't think it would help you at all. Anything gained from putting the reflector back on would be lost in reflections combining the signals together. As for VHF, it is the double width reflector of the 4228 that gives resonalbe VHF-HI reception. Not sure if the 4221 reflector will help much there.

Is there any hope of me getting any US stations, based on my TV fool? If so, what set up to experiment with? (The questions are connected: If there's a chance of US stations I'm guessing it won't be with CM4221HDs so I might go with something different).

Maybe a faint hope. WNPI is almost directly behind HC, so that could be trouble, but a high gain antenna might be able to receive WCFE. You would need a dedicated line for it and either switch it in or give it its own tuner on an HTPC. Even then you may not receive it reliably.