The Canadian OTA channels would survive.I still believe that even without simsubs most Canadians would prefer to watch the Canadian channel over the American one which to me is only the natural thing to do.Years ago in the 1960s when cable & satellite TV wasn't here,Canadian OTA channels did all right without the help of the government & they would still do all right now even with the 500 channel universe that we live in today.Global and CTV
are simply just afraid to compete in the 500 channel universe,so they run to the government for protection.They want to keep that huge profit from simsubbing instead of making an concerted effort into creating good quality Canadian programming.If the Americans and the British are able to created quality home grown shows for their domestic audience,certainly with the pool of talented persons this nation has,the same thing can be done here.

If I have offended any member by my recent comments then please accept my sincere apology.My rage against the CRTC can at times get the best of me.

Get your RANT on! What bugs me the most about all of this simsub/misdub/simulcast whatever crap and the CRTC is that they just don't seem to realize what we are all complaining about. I've complained numerous times to the CRTC and others (Rogers, Global) but we all get the same stock answer about how they pride themselves in providing the best quality HD etc... yadda yadda yadda... *puke*. Are they even monitoring what the broadcasters are putting out? If they are, they must be watching it on really old 14" CRTs with one speaker to judge the quality of the broadcast. I don't think they realize how much of a difference some people experience with 110" screens and ultra hi-fi systems.

There. Done.

Cheers.

No kidding. I can't believe still that Rogers told me they can't monitor simsubs and have no control over them. What pathetic liars. Pathetic. If they see an inferior simsub, they are supposed to stop it.

That's it......I'm buying a STB!!

Thanks to Global and the CRTC :mad:

They simsub CBS Seattle today for the Superbowl!!!
Usually they never simsub the signal from the west...ever!

They did it today I was prepared to watch some great commercial but nooooo!!!
I have to watch the dreadful commercials from this side of the border :(

Usual suspect Crapy Tire, Global news update(20 time every hours) etc.....

I'm so pissed that the next time the Samsung STB is available I'm runnig down to Buffalo to buy it!!!

Sorry for the rant but I'm thru with this Communist thinking.

Have nice day all ;)

Say it like it is DLPAddict!
We all feel your pain!

You didn't say what kind of STB. There are many kinds, but I'm guessing you mean an ATSC STB for OTA channels from Buffalo?

Sorry I'was tooooo :mad:

The STB is the Samsung HTB 260 if I'm right?

Because this piece of equipment is not available in the great white north:(

I will have to talk to my land lord to if I can the proper equipment (antenna,pole,wires etc...)
I live in a basement apartment (Warden/Kingston rd) area so hopefully they (land lord) will be OK with this.

I thought that's what you meant. In actuality the term STB is used all through Home Theatre to describe devices of all sorts that are Set Top Boxes.

Back to the topic.

I forgot..

I'm pretty sure a lot of my friends in Quebec city would be pissed tonight too!

Because a radio station (I listen through the net)was telling everybody to call Videotron cable and ask for the American package (a tech told them they would not simsub these channel) that include all the Seattle channel without simsub:confused:

I'm pretty sure Global did the same down there with the braodcast/simsub

It astonishes me how many foreign satellite services the CRTC approves at the simple request of Canada's cable companies, particularly the big ones like Shaw, Rogers and Videotron. Don't get me wrong, I am not a big fan of the Commission, but if they are going to be around, at least they should do their job to ensure that it remains the Canadian broadcasting system.

The Commission's recent decision to approve the foreign satellite service Baby TV is an example of their being unable to see the forest for the trees.

And shame on the big Canadian BDUs for selling out those, like me, who want a strong and growing Canadian broadcasting system. I wonder how they'd feel if I was allowed to buy my cable service from Comcast or Cablevision? Something tells me that they would say that that was not in the best interests of Canada, but they never say this when it is broadcasters that are being negatively impacted.

Unfortunately, I have always suspected that the cable industry has the CRTC in their back pockets. There are just too many senior people who have gone back and forth in their careers between the Commission and the big BDUs to think otherwise. Bring on the Federal Accountability Act, I say.

As I crossed the US border on my way to a weekend trip there to watch the Super Bowl the way it was meant to be shown,a telecast without any miserable simsubbing & after first greeting the USA saying it was so nice to return again,I then said SCREW YOU CRTC CREEPS,FOR I AM FREE OF YOU THIS WEEKEND.Unfortunately I had to come back on Monday,but for 2 days
I was able to watch free TV.

CRTC is worthless--just another rubber stamp beauracracy with no guts in regard to controlling the ever escalating costs of digital tv; Also what ever happened to the do-not-call legislation that was promised years ago; getting real upset when I view my cable bill with ever increasing service bumps, far surpassing the col; in regard to the do-not-call, I'm sure something can be done about the computer generated random solliciting calls, such as no one there when you canswer a call; then use a last number return call, and you will find the recorded voice says this number is not in service--Bull, Bull.

A grouchy old geezer!

I hate the CRTC too. How are we going to get rid of it? Is eliminating the CRTC on any political platforms? :rolleyes: I thought not. The political payoffs must be too large. :mad:

Some people seem to be of the opinion that if the CRTC did not exist that YOU would be in CONTROL (and you'd see better shows for less money etc.)

Don't be silly. Bell and Rogers would be in total control. Think you'd be allowed to watch US satellite? No. Better shows? No - not if they cost more - and they do. Cheaper monthly rates? Ha ha ha.

You will never be in control. The Man is always in control. So pick your Man, but don't pretend by getting rid of one, that you would be in control.

You are right. I would not leave it to greedy businesses to be in control. After all, there are only a handful of competitors in business, and it is not really open competition like a normal merchandise market, which still requires some kind of control like BBB or consumer affairs.

CRTC did control Bell for me. I was forced to leave my pulse dialing to go to Tone Dialing, but CRTC came through, albeit after 10 months, and Bell had to refund all my extra monthly fee. Not much, but it is the principle that counts.

I hate the CRTC too. In the U.S you have the option of getting Canadian satellite tv without restrictions, I would love to do the same thing in Canada with U.S satellite tv.

actually you don't. the fcc has the same rules as the crtc does here when it comes to television providers.


nem, who is clarifying

We have this way in Canada of forgetting the history behind the creation of certain agencies and wishing that we lived in some alternative reality. Do not forget that we are the flea and that we live next to an elephant. If the elephant rolls over. . . The CRTC is only the latest attempt, since 1900, by our governments to ensure that Canada remains a culturally distinct country. I agree with those who say that the big companies would run the show if the CRTC were to vanish.

I also refer you to the recent defence of Canadian broadcasting by the CRTC against the push by some of the big companies to withdraw their required support for the Canadian Television Fund (CTF). If the big cable companies succeed in killing the CTF a great and perhaps mortal blow will have been dealt Canadian cultural content. The CFT exists because our national market is too small to be competitive and needs financial as well as administrative support. If those supports are withdrawn there will be no Canadian content and no Canadian broadcast point of view. Frankly, most informed Americans prefer our television and radio to their own. You might remember that during 9/11, the most sought after broadcasts both radio and TV were those originating in this country. The quality and objectivity of our programming is second to none.

The CRTC bugs me to sometimes however; I am willing to live with its sometimes idiosyncratic rulings. In terms of harmful concentrations of power, look at the print media for a good example of what things would look like without the CRTC.

We have this way in Canada of forgetting the history behind the creation of certain agencies and wishing that we lived in some alternative reality. Do not forget that we are the flea and that we live next to an elephant. If the elephant rolls over. . . The CRTC is only the latest attempt, since 1900, by our governments to ensure that Canada remains a culturally distinct country. I agree with those who say that the big companies would run the show if the CRTC were to vanish.

I also refer you to the recent defence of Canadian broadcasting by the CRTC against the push by some of the big companies to withdraw their required support for the Canadian Television Fund (CTF). If the big cable companies succeed in killing the CTF a great and perhaps mortal blow will have been dealt Canadian cultural content. The CFT exists because our national market is too small to be competitive and needs financial as well as administrative support. If those supports are withdrawn there will be no Canadian content and no Canadian broadcast point of view. Frankly, most informed Americans prefer our television and radio to their own. You might remember that during 9/11, the most sought after broadcasts both radio and TV were those originating in this country. The quality and objectivity of our programming is second to none.

The CRTC bugs me to sometimes however; I am willing to live with its sometimes idiosyncratic rulings. In terms of harmful concentrations of power, look at the print media for a good example of what things would look like without the CRTC.
it's too bad the CTF was able to escape as I LONG for it's destruction !!