Link please

http://technaute.cyberpresse.ca/nouvelles/texte_complet.php?id=81,12399,0,102007,1392442.html&ref=cyberpresse

i have no links since i saw it on tv but here's a link of cyberpresse.ca in french

http://technaute.cyberpresse.ca/nouvelles/texte_complet.php?id=81,12399,0,102007,1392442.html&ref=cyberpresse

i have no links since i saw it on tv but here's a link of cyberpresse.ca in french
The same old doublespeak. The official text is something about guaranteeing that Kanadian Kulture is allowed on the net. I have no problem with that. However, what they're really after is to ban non-Canadian content. The big lie is that Kanadian Kulture is somehow being blocked from the net by a "vast right-wing conspiracy". That's absolute garbage. There are dozens of cheap webhosting services out there. As long as somebody is willing to pay the bandwidth costs, they can get their content on the net.

Were this to happen, Canada would lose its status as a "Free" nation- and I, for one, would immediately become a resident of a country that was less bent on dominating the minds of its people for whatever, usually crooked, reason. When the CRTC says things like this, do they not realize that Canada would immediately become an international laughing stock? Or do they already believe that they have the infrastructure in place such that when they do decide to try this little Orwellian experiment, we wont be able to see an international news-site criticizing it.
The internet is not about "Culture" it is a tool for communicating and gathering information. When you restrict a citizen's right to freely communicate/access information- you are a tyranny. If this isn't a joke- Canada is in for... oh who am I kidding... Another question while I'm venting, how is it legal to negotiate a blockage/country-based redirect of the INTERNET. Try going to http://comedycentral.com and telling me what happens. This is just because of corporate negotiations. I suppose things are about to get very "interesting"

It Just blows my mind that in this day and age there are dishes all over the place in third world countries,and it is illegal to have a dish in Canada that's not being governed by CTRC.meaning Monopoly is alive and well and it's being supported by our government.

My colleagues and I were just discussing the fact that it is not possible to purchase American satellite legally in Canada. Why is American satellite radio
service available and not tv? Don't get me wrong I'm not a big fan of American culture however I also feel this is an area of legal matters that should be challenged in court. From my understanding the c.r.t.c. is protecting the stability and profits of the Canadian television industry. If I am correct in my belief then why then is WAL MART allowed to open shop
and sell their goods in this country? My wife works for the competition and
I can assure you WALMART has affected her employers profits over the past 15 years. If we were to use the C.R.T.C. logic should we not ban WALMART and for that matter every other american (or non Canadian) product, service.
All I want is the choice to legally purchase DIRECT TV or any other service
I choose. Why am I being told I can't?
Where are the lawyers to challenge this injustice?

Yet in many Caribbean non US annexed countries Dishnet and DTV are legal to buy and use. :confused:

Everybody say thank you to Bell Compressvu and their army of lawyers for pressuring the government for putting up the electronic iron curtain.

Why is American satellite radio service available and not tv?

To clarify, American Satellite radio is NOT available legally in this country. XM Canada and Sirius Canada have the rights in this country and legally you must buy through them.

M Canada and Sirius Canada have the rights in this country and legally you must buy through them.
Yes but they carry the american programming anyway

Yes but they carry the american programming anywayDo you not get dozens of US TV stations/networks on your cable or satellite feed?

Do you not get dozens of US TV stations/networks on your cable or satellite feed?
I was talking here about satellite radio not TV

I was talking here about satellite radio not TVBut you said just above that XM Canada and Sirius Canada carry American programming. I was pointing out that you get dozens of US channels that carry American programming on Canadian Cable/sat service.

But you said just above that XM Canada and Sirius Canada carry American programming. I was pointing out that you get dozens of US channels that carry American programming on Canadian Cable/sat service.

yes we do but most of it are canadianalysed filtered channels and i think the problem is bigger than that.
the CRTC got their nose on everything that ain't canadianalysed
like if i would have ask them to decide what's ok for me and what's not ok for me to watch or listen. the same countries that got same policies are former russia and china and I don't think they do it for the best of their people. Canada looks more and more of a communist country and i don't think that in 2007 we need that. The CRTC protect the canadian system because it cannot compete with american one and that's the only reason. Latest CRTC decision to turn out the request to add USA Networks on the ''white'' list of channels that can be import
just makes me mad because it just say to canadian that if they want it they just have to pirate american signal wich is illegal here (but once was legal)
so the CRTC is are kinda two-faced.

I agree with the general consensus that the CRTC exercises a heavy handed, paternalistic, control over our viewing choices. This type of 'protection' isn't needed. Arguments that rules like substitution simply protect Canadian licensing rights accept as a premise that the Canadian services owning the licenses should exist. Without the sub and other rules, many wouldn't and neither would the need to protect the licensing rights e.g. HBO would exist without the FCC; would Showcase?

A couple of questions for the board:

- why isn't Sunday Night Football subject to simultaneous substitution? TSN and an American network show the identical feed at the same time, but the commercials are different - no sub.

-how can CHUM leverage its programming budget over all of its platforms and still stay within the genre monopoly in its licenses? Example - how does a movie starring Will Smith qualify as 'music programming' that can be shown on Much or MuchMoreMusic when the movie has nothing to do with music? CHUM has transformed its music channels into youth gossip programming without any changes to its conditions of license. An interesting strategy considering how loudly CHUM maintained that it owned the music video genre monopoly for Canada during its regulatory throttling of MTV Canada a few years ago.

-why does AMC not have any 'normal' commercials? Is this some twisted CRTC rule or is this how AMC operates in other countries?

BTW LOL at the CBC winter schedule announced today - constituency politics married to American programming concepts that weren't new in the 90s.

I was reading the thread about the CRTC wanting to force Shaw and StarChoice to simsub the CTV garbage. Just for kicks, I took a blood pressure reading and it went up 30 points from my average.

fyi,

CBC has a very interesting page about the history of the CRTC.

Ruling the Airwaves: The CRTC and Canadian Content

http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-68-1150/arts_entertainment/canadian_content/

I agree with the general consensus that the CRTC exercises a heavy handed, paternalistic, control over our viewing choices. This type of 'protection' isn't needed. Arguments that rules like substitution simply protect Canadian licensing rights accept as a premise that the Canadian services owning the licenses should exist. Without the sub and other rules, many wouldn't and neither would the need to protect the licensing rights e.g. HBO would exist without the FCC; would Showcase?

A couple of questions for the board:

- why isn't Sunday Night Football subject to simultaneous substitution? TSN and an American network show the identical feed at the same time, but the commercials are different - no sub.

-how can CHUM leverage its programming budget over all of its platforms and still stay within the genre monopoly in its licenses? Example - how does a movie starring Will Smith qualify as 'music programming' that can be shown on Much or MuchMoreMusic when the movie has nothing to do with music? CHUM has transformed its music channels into youth gossip programming without any changes to its conditions of license. An interesting strategy considering how loudly CHUM maintained that it owned the music video genre monopoly for Canada during its regulatory throttling of MTV Canada a few years ago.

-why does AMC not have any 'normal' commercials? Is this some twisted CRTC rule or is this how AMC operates in other countries?

BTW LOL at the CBC winter schedule announced today - constituency politics married to American programming concepts that weren't new in the 90s.
- TSN is not an over-the-air broadcaster. No simsubs are required. Basically simsubs were set up to ensure that the local OTA broadcaster did not lose viewers to a US channel showing the same program at the same time. Services such as TSN are not afforded this protection. In the CRTC mind they don't rate as high as the OTA stations.

- Over the Years very few radio and/or TV stations have ever maintained the type of programming in their original licence. The CRTC doesn't seem to have any power to fix this. No one ever loses their licence when they change their format (they should).

- As far as I know AMC "ads" are the same in Canada and the US. They really aren't ads. Just ridiculously amateur time fillers that interrupt every movie for no good reason. I'd sooner see regular commercials.

The satellite radio situation is different from satellite television. XM and Sirius were allowed into Canada but they had to comply to CanCon regulations. So several Canadian based satellite radio channels were created and can be heard in both Canada AND the United States. Thanks to that, jobs were created for Canadian radio workers and broadcasters. Same with Wal Mart or any other retail store. They create jobs for locals. If one day, American satellite television was allowed into Canada, it wouldn't create jobs for anybody. It would probably cause people who work in Canadian television to LOSE their jobs.

Do we even need the CRTC anymore? I thought we were a free Capitalist country? But I guess no country is truly free.

I am somewhat surprised the Conservatives have not did anything with the crtc to improve or eliminate it, especially that when in opposition they used to complain about it.

I am somewhat surprised the Conservatives have not did anything with the crtc to improve or eliminate it, especially that when in opposition they used to complain about it.

The opposition always complain about stuff but never change it when they form government. It has been my observation that people like to complain, but often lack the strength or courage to put in the effort to bring about change. Or because they haven't had all the facts in the past, they realize that the issue they were complaining about is quite beneficial.

:rHello, This is my first post and I’m probably in the wrong place, Anyway glad to see so many feel the same as I do about the CRTC and this looks like a good place to get rid of some of sum anger but unfortunately that won’t change a thing the CRTC will continue to look over our shoulder unless we get together and do something about it, In the near future there will be a general election and I believe now would be a good time for to write your MP etc and get them to make the CRTC an election Issue please feel free to copy the letter below.

Dear Prim Minister, EMAIL ADDRESS <pm@pm.gc.ca>

I write you regarding the CRTC and its endless interference into the life of the Canadian public, Over the years I have witnessed some outrageous rulings by the CRTC rulings that were obviously designed for the sole benefit of the Canadian television broadcasters and cable tv companies.

Prim Minister I could go on but I wont I will simply point out the obvious there are millions of voters out there who will vote for the political party that will make the CRTC an election issue lets have a referendum or your absolute assurance that if elected you will remove the CRTC authority to regulate Over The Air programing, Free To Air programing or satellite tv services from the USA.