: OTA DXing, Tropo, Odd Reception, Weird Weather: 2009 & Previous



PanaMark
2009-11-09, 09:06 AM
finally, after around 9 months of trying I have finally pulled in channel 12 WICU from Erie, Pa and its sub channels. So it makes me think if I actually get a decent VHF antenna perhaps I could get it in more often?
side notes:
tropo continues as I have been able to pull in some Columbus Ohio stations and Youngstown, Ohio is coming in very strong too.

RingtailedFox
2009-11-09, 04:07 PM
The Summer of Skip just keeps on goin'... this is great :D

Phil81
2009-11-09, 04:43 PM
Holy crap looks like its been insane all over the place for the last 1-2 mornings from all the posts here!!

Not to be outdone...here's what I got this morning. (HUGE LIST)


WTHI-DT (RF10) CBS-HD 10-1, 10-2 Storm Team 10 Fury Radar / Terre Haute, IN

WPBI-DT (RF19) PBS 49-1 PBS-HD, 49-2 Create, 49-3 Weather / Muncie, IN

WUSI-DT (RF19) PBS 19-1 PBS-HD, 19-2 World, 19-3 Create, 19-4 AUDIO / OLNEY, IL : is a WSIU 8-1 Carbondale, IL re-transmitter station

WAVE-HD (RF47) NBC-HD 3-1, 3-2 THISTV, 3-3 WeatherPLUS / Louisville, KY

WBKI-DT (RF19) 34-1 CW-HD 'CW Louisville' / Campbellsville, KY

WDRB-DT (RF49) 41-1 'FOX 41' / Louisville, KY

WRBU-DT (RF47) 46-1 'My 46' / East St. Louis, IL (SUPER BRIEF before WAVE mapped over it) only got a blurry call letter ID

WCLJ-DT (RF42) 42-1 TBN, 42-2 Chuch Channel, 42-3 JCTV, 42-4 Enlance USA, 42-5 Smile of a Child / BLOOMINGTON, IN (Indianapolis Market)

WTTV-DT (RF48) 4-1 CW-HD 'Indiana's 4' / Bloomington, IN (Indianapolis market) station was showing WXIN FOX59 news at the time

WLWT-DT (RF35) 5-1 NBC-HD, 5-2 Power of 5 Radar Network / Cincinnati, OH

WSTR-DT (RF33) 64-1 'STAR64' MyNetwork TV / Cincinnati, OH

WPTO-DT (RF28) 14-1 PBS '14HD', 14-2 14Prime, 14-3 14Learn, 14-4 World / Oxford, OH (Cincinnati DMA)

WSFJ-DT (RF24) 51-1 TBN / Newark, OH (Columbus market)

WTTE-DT (RF36) 28-1 FOX / Columbus, OH

WWHO-DT (RF46) 53-1 CW-HD / Columbus, OH

WBDT-DT (RF26) 26-1 CW-HD, 26-2 SD 'Dayton's CW'/ Springfield, OH

WDTN-DT (RF50) 2-1 NBC-HD, 2-2 SD Dayton's NBC / Dayton, OH

WRGT-DT (RF30) 45-1 FOX-HD, 45-2, THIS TV / Dayton, OH

CKXT-DT (RF19) 19-1,2 SunTV / London, ON

WILX-DT (RF10) 10-1 NBC, 10-2 News 10 Weather Source / Lansing, MI

WINM-DT (RF12) 12-1 TCT, 12-2 TCT HD / Angola, IN

WPTA-DT (RF24) 21-1 ABC HD, 21-2 Ft Wayne CW, 21-3 Pinpoint Viper HD / Fort Wayne, IN

WISE-DT (RF18) 33-1 NBC33 HD, 33-2 MyTV Ft Wayne, 33-3 INC Now / Fort Wayne, IN

WANE-DT (RF31) 15-1 CBS HD, 15-2 Live Doppler 15 Fury / Fort Wayne, IN

WFFT-DT (RF36) 55-1 FOX Fort Wayne / Fort Wayne, IN

WSYM-DT (RF38) 47-1 FOX47 / Lansing, MI

WLAJ-DT (RF51) 53-1 ABC HD, 53-2 CW5 / Lansing, MI

Whew... most of the top 11 have never been seen before until now. Will have the beautiful screenshots and distance data for the new in PSIP stations within the next week.

Way to go all.. this is indeed impressive to what you guys have pulled in!

DigitalRocks
2009-11-10, 11:05 PM
Wow, what a great night for OTA around here. I was able to pickup every single station that is stored in my PSIP mappings with fairly descent signals. I picked up a total of 62 Digital stations tonight!!!! Crazy...

I'm picking up some fringe signals without even pointing the antenna in the right direction. Can someone tell mother nature to leave the conditions alone? :)

DigitalRocks
2009-11-11, 03:46 PM
finally, after around 9 months of trying I have finally pulled in channel 12 WICU from Erie, Pa and its sub channels. So it makes me think if I actually get a decent VHF antenna perhaps I could get it in more often?
side notes:
tropo continues as I have been able to pull in some Columbus Ohio stations and Youngstown, Ohio is coming in very strong too.
Columbus & Youngstown all the way up in London???? Thats nuts! Nice grab.

Last night (Tuesday night) the tropo for me was the strongest. I was able to pull in almost any station from all 5 surrounding markets: Flint, Lansing, Detroit, Toledo, Cleveland. At one point my PSIP's were remapping like mad every time i found a new station it overrode an old one.

WNEM on UHF 22 was blasting out here and overpowering Global...
WSMH on UHF 16 was doing the same overpowering A-channel. Crazy!

WILX from Lansing was the strongest I have ever seen it....

I managed to pickup a few new ones... WOTV 41-1 UHF 20 from Kalamazoo, 130 miles
Had a few glimpses of a few others.... at one time i had 62 digital channels stored in my PSIP mappings. Thing that sucks about my tv is when i do a scan, it erases them all and adds what it finds so I tend to try to manually tune and pickup stations rather then do a scan, cause then i have to hunt around and re-add all the rest which is a pain.

Summer of skip continues is right!

PanaMark
2009-11-12, 09:22 AM
well early this morning proved to be my personal best Dxing results.
I was able to pull in from many markets not seen before from my home here in London, Ontario
Lima, Ohio (never seen)
Fort Wayne (only seen one station previous)
Indy (never seen)
South Bend (never seen)
Battle Axe (never seen)

My darn digital camera was eating up the batteries as quick as I could get pictures off.
Honestly it was hard to keep up with all the stations I pulled in and there are a few that I did not even get a picture of on account of battery issues.
needless to say I am downloading the pictures to my Flicr account for all of you to see

Phil thank you for your detailed Dxing list there a few posts back, so I will not repost the ones I got as many of them are the same.
Indeed nice job there from my hometown, keeping us proud. Great job on your recent results. Thank you for sharing them with us. I always look forward to what you do down there.

other markets I got were Flint, and Lansing too but they have been seen before

here are the stations that are new to me:
2-1 WTWO-DT
3-1 WCIA-DT
4-1 WTTV-HD
6-1 WRTV-HD
21-1 WPTA-HD
21-1 WSBT-DT
23-1 WNDY-HD
28-1 WSJV-DT
29-1 WTTK-HD
34-1 WNIT-HD
35-1 WOHL-DT
38-1 WFXW-DT
42-1 WCLJ-DT
43-1 WZPX-DT
44-1 WTLW-DT
46-1 WHME-DT
49-1 WIPB-DT
56-1 WYIN-DT
64-1 WSTR-DT

happy Dxing guys
regards Mark

DigitalRocks
2009-11-12, 04:50 PM
I as well had some fun last night, I was picking up a ton of stations from Dayton, Columbus, Lima and even a few from Cincinnati. (over 200 miles away) I'd love to post the list but it would be a repeat of most of your channels guys. And Poof! Today they are all gone lol.

hkaye
2009-11-12, 05:53 PM
Weather seems favorable tonight in Kitchener Waterloo. My location 15th floor apartment at Queen & Margarette. I don't have direct line of sight with buffalo (well just barely). I just picked up channel 9 syracuse - 350Km away -

http://datalore.ca/sandbox/ZZ2C5FF688.jpg

Both channel 9.1 and 9.2 (I think this is just a weather radar channel)

Here is my antenna -

http://datalore.ca/sandbox/ZZ09A72B50.jpg

Double bow tie made with a coat hanger, with magic foil behind it :D

I get Rochester frequently on nights like tonight, but Syracuse is the farthest I've picked up so far!

Phil81
2009-11-12, 06:27 PM
Today around noon WDIV was destroyed and I didn't know why at the time. Thought the transmitter had problems. Then WTVG took a serious hit. I come back around 5pm tonight and WWJ CBS is pixelating all over!

More co-channel from ever continual tropo again.

In the last hr picked up WOHL-D1 Lima and WISE-DT 33-1 Fort Wayne. I'm not really in the mood to DX tonight lol.

here are the stations that are new to me:
2-1 WTWO-DT
3-1 WCIA-DT
4-1 WTTV-HD
6-1 WRTV-HD
21-1 WPTA-HD
21-1 WSBT-DT
23-1 WNDY-HD
28-1 WSJV-DT
29-1 WTTK-HD
34-1 WNIT-HD
35-1 WOHL-DT
38-1 WFXW-DT
42-1 WCLJ-DT
43-1 WZPX-DT
44-1 WTLW-DT
46-1 WHME-DT
49-1 WIPB-DT
56-1 WYIN-DT
64-1 WSTR-DTThat's INSANE! WOW. There's a central and southern Illinois station there. Got to be over 400 miles.. looks you beat my all time record. Strange as last night there was really nothing going on here but local signal degradation and nothing really popping up. Must have been in the tropo hole while it was booming all around.

Jase88
2009-11-12, 09:50 PM
Interesting night so far. I managed to watch PBS programming from Rochester, Syracuse, Buffalo, Erie and Detroit!

Interesting thing on Detroit: The next episode of "This Old House" will feature a segment on installing an OTA antenna!

rajugsw
2009-11-12, 10:03 PM
I looked at the tropo maps and it makes sense. All Syracuse all night and hopefully tomorrow if the map is correct.:D

Phil81
2009-11-12, 10:31 PM
Now for the first time I've got a couple from South Bend, Indiana

*NEW
WHME 46-1 (48) Religious
WNIT 34-1 (35) PBS
WNDU 16-1 (42) NBC
+ WSMH suprise

Something out there has mopped the floor with WDIV.. its been gone for hrs. WWJ is flakey too.
WOOD-DT (7) has killed WJBK-DT so nether come in.
WILX-DT NBC Lansing on 10 was long lasting
Picked up brief WXMI FOX 17 (19) Grand Rapids screenshot of news/weather
Had WANE-HD 15-1 (31) Ft Wayne earlier on
Also an appearance by WPTA-DT (24) as well.
and WWMT 3-1 CBS (8) Kalamazoo
WJRT-DT 12-1 (12) ABC Flint MI
WAQP 49-1 (48) TCT Saginaw MI
WTLJ-54-1 (24) TCT Muskegon
WOTV-41-1 (20) ABC/CW Kalamazoo

EDIT Now this is a first. CHWI-16 is just 9 miles away from me at 492kW ND and a digital (WSMH FOX66 on 16) at 245kW DA over 90 miles away managed to *BRIEFLY* decode despite the FM carrier heard quite clearly still in CHWI analog.

PrinceLH
2009-11-13, 12:30 AM
Getting another full slate of Ottawa stations. Also receiving some analog TVA stations. WNPI is in very strong tonight. Swinging west, all of the Buffalo stations and a number of metro Toronto stations are in quite strong. Will scan for a little while and see what shows up.

Phil81
2009-11-13, 01:10 AM
Wow the tropo keeps on coming down here tonight. Another never before seen station absolutely killing yet another local strong analog station. First it was WSMH-DT on RF16
then WNEM-DT CBS on RF22 trashing CIII-TV Global at 1022kW just 7 miles away,
and now northern Michigan (Cadillac) WWTV-DT 9-1 CBS,9-2 (FOX33) at 45kW on RF9 bringing CBET-TV 9 CBC 201kW at 18 miles west of here to its knees. Decoded it for a couple of minutes with pixelation.

Truly remarkable that local reception is all but destroyed all around here tonight.

Another station seen before decoded in the last 15 mins (WBAY-DT 2-1 RF23 Green Bay, WI) a little over 300 miles NW. As well as WDCQ-DT 15-1,2,3,4 Bad Axe, MI (RF15)

More never before seen right now:
WTOM-DT 4-1 (RF35) NBC 'TV 7&4', 4-2 'WGTQ' Cheboygan, MI (SAULT STE MARIE MKT!)

WBSF-DT 46-1 'CW 46', 46-2 'NBC 25' RF46 / Bay City, MI

W27CN-D Low power digital repeater station for Lansing, MI. It repeats Saginaw's WAQP-DT TCT digital broadcast at only 8.5kW ERP. The contour only extends 12 miles!

Jase88
2009-11-13, 02:48 AM
Detroit is coming into K-Town again tonight.

And a new station for me: WPTA 24.1, 24.2 (RF 24), Ft. Wayne, Indiana.

WKTV 29.4, 29.5 (RF24) was also coming in from the other direction: Utica, NY.

mogwai
2009-11-13, 02:56 AM
I was watching Dragnet on CKXT-DT out of Toronto, which is normally about a 23db signal for me and it totally dropped out at 2:30am. CBLT-DT which usually comes in around 27, and CITY-DT both dropped out as well.. Scanned for anything coming in DX but, nothing but locals :/ All those came back around 3:07am... odd

RingtailedFox
2009-11-13, 03:24 AM
nice, jase! how often do the detroit locals roll in to the Kitchener area? i know your height must be similar to panamark's in London... which certainly helps with reception.

Garth J
2009-11-13, 06:53 AM
Have to make this brief, since I'm just going to bed now (quarter to 7am!) But started the day with Erie, PA stations around 4-5pm:

12-1/2/3 (RF12) WICU/WBEP/WSEE
35-1/2 (RF16) WSEE/WBEP (came in briefly)
54-1/2/3 (RF50) WQLN
66-1 (RF22) WFXP (*briefly* decoded PSIP and a few pixels only)

Then later I picked up Rochester around 9-11pm:
21-1/2/3 (RF16) WXXI
31-1 (RF28) WUHF

Then my jaw dropped as Detroit rolled in after 12am and I got WJBK for the first time on RF7!!!!
2-1 (RF7) WJBK
4-1/2 (RF45) WDIV
20-1 (RF21) WMYD

Also got Flint and Bad Axe, MI again
66-1 (RF16) WSMH
19-1/2/3/4 (RF15) WDCQ

Also got PSIP of Cleveland's WKYC on RF17 but only for a second or two.

The really cool thing was picking up three different stations on RF16 in the same day!

Saw blinks of signal on RF 29 and 31 checked for Utica's WKTV and nothing there......blink was lighting up when I was aimed at Detroit.

Loving all this late season tropo!!! And loving all the reports of the awesome catches from you guys!

RingtailedFox
2009-11-13, 02:16 PM
29 and 31? might be WGTE-DT Toledo (29) and WPXD-DT Ann Arbor (31)

vejostde
2009-11-13, 02:51 PM
There was pretty good tropo last night and this morning. I picked up a few Syracuse and Watertown stations.