: 9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101



JoeLouie
2012-02-07, 09:45 AM
Sounds like you're on the Rental Choice Plan with the 6131. It shouldn't be an issue returning it. Just give Bell a call, tell them you're sending back a receiver and they'll send you a box for it with a packing slip.

Geo35
2012-02-10, 01:06 PM
A couple of more questions.

Once I connect the 9242, do I have to go through any onscreen menus to do anything..ie recognize the LNBS etc? or do I just need to call Bell to activate and then the subscribed channels will show up?

The 9242 has 2 remotes so maybe I can also connect up the third old SD TV in the basement (without using the 6131) so then the 9242 will operate 2 TV's(1 HD, 1 SD). Will the second remote work from the basement which is one floor down?

Pinza
2012-02-10, 03:59 PM
You have to run a "Check Switch".

Yes it will work from 1 floor away.

Geo35
2012-02-13, 08:53 PM
The installation of the 9242 at my dad's place was successful. Bell activated the receiver over the phone(and the guy walked me through the check switch) but I now see that I could have activated the receiver online at the Bell web site.
The only really tricky part was getting remote 2 to work independently on the second SD TV in the basement that is connected to TV OUT2. Until we found the dual mode, the remote was also working the upstairs TV too.
The receiver didn't come with the instruction manual, but I later found the info online at the Bell web site so this slowed me down a bit.

BTW, they said that they would take back the 6131 on the rental choice plan with no cancellation fees. Dad will decide in the next few weeks if he wants to keep it as he gets used to using the 2nd remote on the set in the basement.

Again, thank you all for the advice.

Pinza
2012-02-13, 08:55 PM
Thank you for updating the forum, it makes it all worthwhile when we see a result.

Pinza

reallynewatthis
2012-05-13, 12:13 AM
I just inherited my mom's 9241 (used to have a 6100). We have two LNBs and never had an issue pointing the dish and getting full HD with our 6100, no matter how many times we moved the dish. But now that we have the 9241receiver, we can only get 82 (the signal bar is green and it says Locked - Nimiq 82 at the bottom left of the screen), it comes in at a signal strength of 93 (on transponder 11) but when I go to Sateline 91, it still shows a signal strength of 93 (on transponder 11) but it is red and says "Wrong Sat - Nimiq 82" at the bottom left of the screen. We followed the instructions in this forum of moving the dish a little up and to the right when we found 82 but just can't find 91. Could it be the way that we have our cabling set up? Our setup is this:

1. One dish with two LNBs
2. Each LNB has ONE cable coming out of it
3. In the house the cables from the two LNBs go to an SW21 switch
4. The single cable coming out of the SW21 goes into a DPP seperator
5. Sat line 1 from the DPP goes into sat line 1 of the receiver
6. Sat line 2 from the DPP goes into sat line 2 of the receiver

The Check Switch screen says:
Satelite Input 1
Port 1: 91
Transponder: OK
Device: Twin
Port 2: 82
Transponder: OK
Device: Twin
Status: Reception Verified
Switch: DPP Twin w/Sep. Satelite Input 1

Satelite Input 2
Port 1: 91
Transponder: OK
Device: Twin
Port 2: 82
Transponder: OK
Device: Twin
Status: Reception Verified
Switch: DPP Twin w/Sep. Satelite Input 1


We still can't see 91 and we have no tv reception at all.

Any ideas?

Pinza
2012-05-13, 07:18 AM
You CANNOT use a DPP Separator on Legacy LNBF's.

You need either a DPP Twin LNBF, then a solid line to the receiver, where you add the DPP Separator, or forget the separator and duplicate the wiring and the SW21 switch, resulting in 2 lines into your 9241, 1 for each tuner.

reallynewatthis
2012-05-13, 09:07 AM
Pinza, I was soooo hoping that you would see my question and answer! I saw so many threads where you helped people!

THANK YOU for your help!

Just one last question (well actually 2) ... is duplicating the wires and SW21 the only way that we'll be able to take advantage of the true PVR capability (recording one channel while watching another) or will the twin LNBF do the trick as well? And if I am going with the twin, does it matter which of the two cables that I use (because, as you know, I have two cables going into the seperate LNBs now and out to teh SW21). I know I will have to ensure that whatever one I use in the twin is the right one to remove from the SW21 and put into the dpp seperator.

Thanks again!

Pinza
2012-05-13, 11:12 AM
Either way will give full PVR capabilities.

No matter which cable you use at all.

reallynewatthis
2012-05-13, 03:09 PM
Terrific! Then we"ll get the twin and we won't have to worry about running more wires!

Truly appreciate your help. I'll let you know how we make out.

Pinza
2012-05-13, 03:17 PM
No problem at all. Just make sure it is a DPP Twin.

I Z Z Y
2012-07-13, 09:30 PM
I've read some of the threads and can't figure out what is wrong with my setup.

I have a 9242 and 6131 receviers and I wanted to move the dish to get a better signal. Unfortunitly my new location wasn't any better.

But now I can get anything on my 9242 but I get bot 82 and 91 sat's on the 6131.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
Izzy

Pinza
2012-07-14, 06:10 AM
You do not give much to work with, like switch type etc.

If you have an SW44, check the Power supply/Inserter is connected correctly, check that the line from the PS/PI is feeding Port 1 of the SW44.

Try removing INPUT cables from 9242, run check switch, when it fails replace cables run it again.

I Z Z Y
2012-07-14, 01:50 PM
Yes, I have a SW44, and the Power supply/Inserter is connected.
I'm pretty sure that the PS/PI is feeding Port 1 of the SW44.

Is there away to tell, all the calbes are hidden and I forgot to mark the cables when I removed them to move the dish.

Thanks

57
2012-07-14, 02:19 PM
Is there away to tell, all the calbes are hidden and I forgot to mark the cables when I removed them to move the dish.If you're asking how to tell which cable is which, you can short the end of one cable and test the other end with a multi-meter for resistance. Resistance would be infinite when not shorted and relatively low when you short it (put a wire or other metal from the center connector to the "casing") This assumes the cables are not connected to anything.

keesha1
2012-07-25, 01:21 PM
Can someone please help me in hooking up my 2 PVR's. I have dual lnbf coming in to a sw44 switch. can someone help from this point on. As of now I am leaving my sw44 switch on port/1 with a power inserter and port #2 going to my 9241 pvr. Now what I would like to know is how can I hook up my 5900 which only has 1 cable to the receiver?( info leaving the sw44 to here?)

m3repair
2012-07-25, 01:30 PM
Your going to either need another SW44 and 2 3x4's OR switch out to a Dish Pro Plus Quad LNB to complete your installtion, for proper operation of your 9241 or any dual tuner receiver you must have 2 feeds connected if it is a legacy installtion (in this case your current setup with dual lnbf's and SW44 is legacy) but since you have 2 dual tuners and a single tuner you will not have 5 outputs to work with off from the SW44 hence you have two choices:

Option 1: Add in 2 3x4's to divide 91 and 82 into four outputs to two SW44's thus giving you a total of 8 outputs. (might be the least expensive method and most complicated to setup)

Option 2: you can swap out of LNBF's and SW44 in favour of a Dish Pro Plus Quad LNBF, thus your dual tuners can be fed with one cable (but a seperator needs to be purchased for each dual tuner you want to use), and your single tuner 5900 PVR can be easily connected at the point and your installtion is complete.

I would go with option 2 if you can find a Dish Pro Plus Quad LNBF for sale.

Pinza
2012-07-25, 04:26 PM
Can someone please help me in hooking up my 2 PVR's. I have dual lnbf coming in to a sw44 switch. can someone help from this point on. As of now I am leaving my sw44 switch on port/1 with a power inserter and port #2 going to my 9241 pvr. Now what I would like to know is how can I hook up my 5900 which only has 1 cable to the receiver?( info leaving the sw44 to here?)

OK, I actually took time to read your post and I believe you are just wanting to add a 5900 to the 9241 that you have now using the existing SW44, right.?

If so, you do NOT need to buy anything, other than some RG6 coax and a couple of connectors. All you need is a line from Port 3 or 4 on the SW44 to the 5900.

Use RG6 coax and that should be all you need. Remember to run a 'check Switch' when it is connected.

m3repair
2012-07-25, 09:27 PM
He claims he has 2 9241's and one 5900, that's how I read it, could you please confirm your setup so we can offer proper advice

Pinza
2012-07-25, 09:30 PM
He asks how to hook up his 2 PVR's. The title of the post is "Hooking up 9241 and 5900 receiver", so I see it as I described. We shall see.