Thanks Peano,

A couple of follow-up questions;
1) is there a difference between a twin LNB and a dual LNB?
2) can a dual LNB be used in place of a twin? If so, which two connections are used?

As you can tell, I'm rather new to this.

Many thanks,

Jeff

Big difference. A DPP twin allows you to use one cable for a dual tuner receiver with the use of the separator. With this setup, you only need two cables for your two 9241s. Using a dual LNB (I think you mean legacy) would require first two of them, a SW44, and the use of 4 cables for your setup. (i.e. two cables would need to be passed to each receiver, in legacy you can't use the separator and each tuner port requires a direct connection)

Just to correct you lightbender a Twin LNBF incorporates a switch. (It also occupies BOTH slots on the "Y" yolk at the front of the Dish). ONLY if that Twin LNBF is a DPP can it be used to feed a Dual Tuner Receiver with a Single line feeding a DPP Separator, for example;

A Legacy Twin LNBF can feed 2 Tuners each with 91 & 82 signals. NO switch's can be added to these lines.

A DP Twin is the similar to the above but can then feed a DP Multiswitch, (a DP34) to feed 4 Tuners. It can be used to feed DPP switch's (DPP44's) and again feed 4 Tuners, it looses the ability to use DPP Separators as the DPP switch is fed by a DP LNBF. The DPP44 can be cascaded and feed a total of 12 Tuners from 2 lines into the House.

A DPP Twin can feed 2 Receivers. With the addition of a DPP Separator on each line it can feed 2 Dual Tuner Receivers. The DPP Twin can feed a DPP44 switch, giving the same properties on all 4 outputs. Again the DPP44 can be cascaded but this time as they are fed by a DPP LNBF, all 12 outputs can feed a Dual Tuner receiver with the addition of a DPP Separator.

I think that's what I said, just not as well explained LOL

Okay, I'm starting to get it, I think.

How do I tell which LNB I have? Is it marked on the LNB if I take it off?

This is a DPP twin.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/picture.php?albumid=897&pictureid=4712

This is a legacy dual LNB. You would have 2 of them.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/picture.php?albumid=897&pictureid=4711

Hey guys

I currently have a set up as follows:
2's Lnb hooked up to 2 SW21 switches hooked up to 2 seperate recievers(6131).

I would like to remove one of the 6131s and replace it with a dual tuner 9241. Can i install a dpp switch after the sw21 and then split the signal into the 9241?

thanks

NO.

You can remove the LNBF's and SW21's and get a DPP Twin and a DPP Separator for behind the 9241, or replace the SW21's with an SW44 and run another line.

Hey guys,

So lightbender was right, i do have two legacy dual LNBFs. From the previous home owner, they left their star choice units, and it's a dual sat. quad output switchable Ku LNBF. Can i use this at all?

Thanks,
Jeff

See this thread
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=73340

Hi, sorry if this is a stupid question but I've been searching and reading since early this afternoon and can't get this working...

I've got a 9242 which has been working great with an SW44, today we had several power outages, when the power came back for good, no satellite reception on the 9242, nor on the 6131 in the basement. By hooking up direct to lnb's I was able to see that it seemed the SW44 was fried. I replaced it.

Now the 6131 works great, but the 9242 simply won't see the SW44 ! I'm ready to pull my hair out. I've tried everything I can think of, and it simply won't see it.

I ran on sat direct to one tuner, and one sat direct to the other tuner, each was seen properly, but when I hook them back to the SW44 and try, no switch is detected....

I know there's a 4000 page thread about the SW44 alone, I've read quite a bit of that and see its an evil switch, but every suggestion from there hasn't helped.

If anyone knows some trick....

Is it possible the Power Supply/Inserter combination are not connected to the line feeding the SW44, the plug on the PI is dreadful.

Could be a Power Supply failure.

From the previous home owner, they left their star choice units, and it's a dual sat. quad output switchable Ku LNBF. Can i use this at all?

All that is usable without major modifications would be the Mast and the Cables into the house.

LNBF, is useless. Lightbender provided a link if you choose to mod the Dish and add Bell LNBF's.

Is it possible the Power Supply/Inserter combination are not connected to the line feeding the SW44, the plug on the PI is dreadful.

Could be a Power Supply failure.
Boy, when you're right, you're right !

I just unplugged the damn ps, and the damn center pin is bent over instead of in the middle where it should be, there's no way it was getting any power....

Horrible design, this whole thing is a mess of a design, imho...now lets see if I can straighten that damn pin without breaking it....

I knew I was up in the middle of the night for a reason....lol

Glad you found it, now to fix it....lol

I may be able to get my hands on a second HD PVR (9242) for my Dad who currently has a 9241. His current install is for 2 TV's (2 wires coming in the house).
One of the wires goes to a separator which gives the 9241 the 2 inputs. The second wire goes to 6131. I want the 9242 to replace the 6131. If I get another separator, should the 9242 work with the single wire feeding it now?

Also will Bell charge me anything for activating the receiver?

Is there anything else I need to be aware of?

It all depends on what lnb and switch you have (look at the check switch page, menu 6, 1, 1, check switch and see if it says dpp or sw44) by the sounds of it you have a ddp twin and the 1 wire coming in goes to a dpp separator and into the two feeds on the 9241 #1 in first tuner and #2 in the second tuner ,, if this is the case and you only have the one dish the second wire should also be the same and all you would need in a dpp separator to run the 9242 that you are putting in the place of the 6131...the only way there will be charges is if you get bell to install it, nothing if you do it yourself.

As Geo 35 states, he has a DPP Separator on one line, therefore the LNBF is a DPP twin. If not then the 9241 will NOT be working.

Just grab a Separator from FleaBay and go for it.

No installation or activation costs.

Only issue might be if the 6131 is Rented, then there might be a cancellation fee.

Thanks for the replies Pinza, crs75. The person selling me the 9242 does have the separator so we should be in business. The only thing I will have to resolve is sending back the 6131 that is being replaced. When I did the retention deal for my dad about 5 months ago, they mentioned that Bell is not doing contracts anymore for TV, therefore we are month to month(ie can cancel anytime without fees).
The 6131 is on the rent to own deal which stretches for 36 months. If for some reason Bell does not let us send back the 6131 without some cancellation fee, we could use it to set up a third TV in the house. The current installation is for 2 sets..Just wondering what kind of switches and setup I would need for the third set?

@Geo35---> your most likely going to need a DPP44 switch, then you will be able to expand to four receivers with your DPP Twin LNBF, As for returning your 6131, that shouldn't be an issue but should call to confirm that to ensure you can, might be worth also keeping if your dad wants a spare for the future if you do end up staying for 36 months. Just a thought