: 9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101



Pinza
2011-02-18, 02:24 PM
No problems with using a coupler (Barrel connector F81) really, although it is always better to be 1 piece of cable.

Just ensure that the F81 is rated for at least 2ghz.

Putt4dough
2011-03-16, 12:55 PM
In post #4 bellow, will this work to connect a Bell 9241 receiver?

Example #4- Installing with 2 SW21 Switches
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=221373&postcount=4

TY
Mike

Putt4dough
2011-03-16, 12:57 PM
double post

Pinza
2011-03-16, 03:22 PM
Yes that is fine, a 9241 is a DP Dual Tuner Receiver.

Putt4dough
2011-03-16, 03:26 PM
What does DP stand for?
Why does a SW44 need a power source and why would using 2 sw21 with no power outlet work?

TY
Mike

Pinza
2011-03-16, 05:09 PM
DP = Dish Pro
DPP = Dish pro Plus
The SW21 does not require power as all it does is combine 91 & 82 signals into 1 outlet.
The SW44 requires power for the circuits to allow it to combine 2 inputs of 91 & 82 and provide it to any or all of the 4 outputs as required.

Chicki123
2011-03-29, 11:58 AM
Since my previous posts, we purchased a DPP LNBF and a DPP separator that runs to the 9241. We also have a 2700 and 3100 in other rooms that required us to purchase a dpp 33. Since we have hooked up the dpp33 and ran checkswitches there are times when the hd channels cut out on the 9241. Then i have to run a checkswitch again for them to be found and watch them again. Why would this be happening? Any ideas how to troubleshoot this?

Thanks

Pinza
2011-03-29, 01:50 PM
And you have 2 lines from the DPP Twin LNBF running to the DPP33 switch.?

Chicki123
2011-03-29, 02:07 PM
Yes, two lines coming into dp33 in sat feed 1 and 2 and three going out to the three recievers. A dpp splitter at the 9241 as well.

Pinza
2011-03-29, 03:24 PM
I have no idea. I have only ever used the DPP44 switch and not had that problem.

Do you get the same problem if you connect the 9241 onto one of the other outputs.

Chicki123
2011-03-29, 03:44 PM
I can try that.

It is not a problem that happens consistently, it has happened on a couple occasions now in the evenings.

Could it be that maybe the coax connections feeding the dpp33 may need to be redone? Do they require a long piece of wire to insert into the switch? The dpp 33 is in my basement on the wall where all coax cables come into the home.

Pinza
2011-03-29, 04:30 PM
Maximum length for the central core beyond the outer edges of the connectors is 1/8".

bloup
2011-04-19, 02:29 PM
Hello everyone, this is my first time posting... I'm a bev client since 2007 and started with 2 9200 on dual LNBs dish and SW44. All was good. I recently changed a lot in the setup and now I find HD channels weird looking as if frames are missing intermittently (looks choppy) and with some occasional pixilation. It’s most noticeable on the new 60” TV (Sharp LE925) but after examining other tvs in the house I found that all tvs seem to have the same choppy issue. I did hard reset of receivers, “check switch” tests ok and signal strength is 85% - 95 %. The new setup is 2 dual LNBs with 2 SW34 and 2 SW44 installed by bev tech. All cable is RG6; four lines are fed from dish to switches in my house. I grounded the switches. Receivers are:
1 9242 in HT room
1 6131 in HT room
1 9241 in living room
1 9200 in basement
I also tried different receivers on the new Sharp TV with the same result. I tried using component instead of HDMI with the same result. It does not seem like it’s the new TV since other TVs in the house have the same choppy issue but it’s not as noticeable since they are smaller in size.
I called bev support a few times, the last cs rep told me he would escalate a request and should hear from them in 2 to 5 days!
Anyone else experience similar issues with multiple receivers on one dish with pre DPP dish equipment?
Anything else I should try?
thanks

Pinza
2011-04-19, 02:52 PM
I regularly connect 48 to 60 receivers from a Single Dish, so that is not the problem.

As to the actual cause, I have no idea but if you say it was fine before you changed the setup it stands to reason it is something during that change that has caused the issue.

Try removing the Ground, just incase this is an issue from stray voltages.

bloup
2011-04-20, 12:00 AM
I regularly connect 48 to 60 receivers from a Single Dish, so that is not the problem.

As to the actual cause, I have no idea but if you say it was fine before you changed the setup it stands to reason it is something during that change that has caused the issue.

Try removing the Ground, just incase this is an issue from stray voltages.
Thanks for the quick answer Pinza, removing the ground seem to fix 95% of my issue. I will monitor for a few days and report back to confirm. I was grounding the switches with a wire from the electrical panel ground wire to the switches grounding post. I measured before and after using an ohmmeter set to 20VDC and I get a reading of 0.02 on the outer shell of all 4 switches; should I be concerned or it’s normal? Should I be concerned that my equipment is not grounded and get an electrician to find the stray voltage?

Pinza
2011-04-20, 08:22 AM
90% of all Bell Installations are NOT grounded, mine is not and never had an issue.

As for getting an electrician, well hopefully someone on here can advise better than me, I am no Electrician, so I cannot really comment on that.

Installer
2011-04-20, 04:16 PM
If there's a ground already hooked up and i'm doing a bell/shaw...shaw/bell swap i'll put it back on, besides that i never install a ground during an instalation.
If I ever install a dish at the highest point of the house (the peak of the roof) lol i'll use 1.
I wouldn't sweat it man!

Pinza
2011-04-20, 04:25 PM
Exactly. At the highest point the Dish should be grounded.

Bell TV's specs say each line or switch should be grounded but in reality very few are and they all work just fine.

bloup
2011-04-23, 10:28 PM
Well it's been 95% better since removing the ground from the switches chassis. Pinza, if you are ever in the Ottawa area I have a case of 24 for you ;) (pm me). I would of never guessed that the ground could of been the culprit.

tks

paratrooper
2011-04-25, 01:20 PM
I want to upgrade to the Bell PVR 9241. I live in a part of the country that doesn't have an installer so I have to do it myself.
I have a Bell 5900 and the dish has a dual LNB. One wire goes to the rec room and one goes to the living room and this works fine.

The new dish I assume has a quad LNB and I am wondering if I can just use two of the connections and split the one for the 9241 as talked about at the beginning of this thread. The second TV would only need one wire so I'd be ok there.

I can't seem to find the splitter that is talked about at the beginning of this thread but I see one at Futureshop made by monster (like $25) and it has one in and two out. Does anyone think this will work or will I have to somehow use all the connections at the quad LNB on the new dish.

Thanks in advance for any help here.