: 9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101
2010-10-29, 06:38 PM
I am installing a 9241 to the other end of my house (from the dishes) which currently has only one cable running to the room. Per the original post in this thread - where is the best place to get the below equipment (locally if possible - Near Aurora). I currently have 2 dishes installed at the other end of the house and probably can put some of my receivers on the one dish and do this deal on the other dish. I would also like some names of good recommended installers if possible. Thanks All
Example #1- Installing a 9200 using only 1 cable.
To do this, you will need the following items. A Dish Pro Plus (DPP) Twin LNB, and a DPP Seperator.
2010-10-30, 09:07 AM
Never mind all - I read more of the thread and figured it out.
2010-12-09, 01:01 PM
I have a 9242 and 4100 receivers in my house. Below is a diagram of the basic setup.
When I had everything installed the installer did not put the splitter on it. He just left the splitter on top of the receiver when he left. I had a line from the dish into tuner 1 of my 9242 and a line from the dish into the 4100. The TV seemed to work fine. Trying to record on the 9242 was giving me problems. The record would not fully record and I couldn't watch and record at the same time.
I tried plugging the splitter in the line from the wall and then to tuner 1 and tuner 2 on the 9242 but that cut my signal altogether. How should I have this setup and why can't I plug the splitter in without cutting the signal?
You would have thought the installer would have done this?
2010-12-09, 01:12 PM
You CANNOT use a splitter in the way you have shown in the image.
To assist more, I would need to know what kind of LNBF you have, is there 1 or 2.? If 1, does it say DPP on it.?
Can you tell me what is written on the "Splitter". Is it possible it is a DPP Seperator.?
2010-12-09, 02:35 PM
Yes sorry it is a DPP Seperator. Sorry. I don't mean to seem like I don't know what the equipment is but, I don't know what the equipment is. What is a LNBF and where should it be located so I can check.
2010-12-09, 04:45 PM
It (or they) are located at the front of the Dish.
Have a look at Post #1 of this thread;
2010-12-09, 07:12 PM
Oh ok, I'll go up and check it out this weekend and let you know. Thanks for the help.
2010-12-09, 07:23 PM
If you have just had it installed, I would be calling 1-888-SKY-DISH and getting the Installation Technician back, the job is NOT finished.
2010-12-15, 01:33 PM
Hi, sorry but this question, must've been already asked many times.
I am replacing a 4100 SD with a 9241 HD PVR. The 9241 needs 2 inputs. Is there a way of installing the 9241 without running another rg6 into the house? Can I just use a dpp seperator on my existing input feed from a sw21?
My setup is this now:
2 dual LNB's which runs 2 coax's each into 2 sw21's. Each sw21 feeds 1 coax each into an existing 6100HD and the 4100 SD which I want to replace.
Thanks for all your help...cheers!
2010-12-15, 03:32 PM
Can I just use a dpp seperator on my existing input feed from a sw21?
No, the DPP Seperator can only be used with other DPP equipment.
The easiest solution for you, if you plan to retire the 4100 is to obtain a DPP Twin LNBF and a DPP Seperator.
See this thread;
If you plan on keeping the 4100 you would need to swap out the 2 x SW21's with an SW44, you would then need a second line to the Dual Tuner Receiver.
For SW44 see this thread;
I just had a Bell 9241 installed by bell weeks ago. we decided to change locations of the PVR with the 3100 in another room. The new dual LNB dish is installed with 2 cables directly through wall, servicing only one TV. There are 2 existing cable wires that go basement rec room. I've tested them with an ohmeter and show 4 ohms. I swapped the pvr and connected both cables with the powered switch in place. I'm not able to get HD. I'm assuming the problem is the old cable wire is not RG6....and that there will be no HD with old cable...
Also, if I have only one or 2 TV's hooked up, do I need that SW44 switch?
Or the powered switch ....is this even needed at all with one TV with PVR and a second with 3100?
2010-12-18, 09:08 AM
The Bell 9241 is a Dual Tuner, so it requires 2 feeds (Unless you have a DPP LNBF, which you dont), the 3100 needs 1 feed, so yes, you need an SW44, the number of TV's is not relevant at all, it is the number of tuners, that determines the type and number of switch's.
If by "old cable" you mean RG59, then depending on the length of that line, it might still work but would certainly be better with RG6 cable.
I would suggest you review the SW44 thread and ensure that you still have 2 lines from the SW44 to the 9241 and another line from the SW44 to the 3100.
If you are missing 91, you should check all connectors for stray strands of wire on the inside of them. You have, of course, done a "Check Switch"?.
When I did the check switch it fails.
That PVR cable has 2 junction boxes at walls to go through, then 2 cable joiners before getting to PVR. I guess with all the joints and old RG59 cable there is just not enough signal. i'll run new RG6 cable straight from sat to Pvr and try it before posting any other questions....
2010-12-18, 10:17 AM
If you have access to or want an alternate way to wire the 2 receivers you have, I would suggest looking at getting a DPP Twin LNBF, that way you can eliminate the SW44 and its' troublesome Power Inserter. It will also save you running a second RG6 line.
2010-12-21, 10:48 AM
At this time last year I had purchased a brand new HDTV for the first time and had purchased a 6131 receiver to go with it. Bell installers came to my house and changed everything since I had an old dish with no HD signal. I now have the smaller dish with two twin things sticking out the front which I assume are the LNB parts. My mother would now like a HDTV for the first time. I noticed that the pvrs will be going on sale and might be a good idea to pick one up.
A few questions...
There are currently 3 receivers in my home right now. 1 is an old sd receiver, another is a newer model of an sd receiver and my receiver which is the 6131 which is downstairs. Each has a line from the outside going into the house. The 6131 has the power adapter downstairs. For the 9242 model; will I need to have another cable line attached to the dish and brought into the house for it to work?
Also,if my mom isn't ready for a pvr just yet and only wants to have HD channels, could I simply swap the old sd receiver with the 9242 just for the HD right now? I know that perhaps the pvr functionality won't work right away but if only one cable is attached to the back can she at least enjoy the HD and all of the other channels right away and then have me worry about attaching the extra cable outside after the winter either in the spring or summer or will the 9242 receiver not work at all if only one cable is attached?
If you need any details about the setup I can check the menu screen later to see what the settings read.
2010-12-21, 01:07 PM
The 9242 should work if only one cable is attached, you just won't have access to the second tuner. Mine is only attached with one cable and works fine. The PVR function will work as well, just you can only record what you are watching, so if you are out one evening and want to record a show, you can.
2010-12-31, 11:57 AM
hey newbie to the board. i have a install question that i can't seem to find an answer to that's probably really easy lol. this is my current setup basically
i have this installed downstairs in unfinished basement with all the houses outlet cableS running to the same spot. when the bell tech originally setup my 9242 it was hooked up in the living room where the cable outlet has 2 places on the wall to attach cable too. so it contolled the living room and upstairs bedroom. all fine and dandy until recently when the wife says she wants the tv and receiver to go upstairs to the living room.
so now i want to hook up the 9242 in the upstairs rec room to control the tv there and the one in the bedroom still. problem is the rec room outlet only has the regular 1 cable plug in instead of the 2 as the living room had . so i can't just copy what the tech did. please help me as to what i need to do. i have the diplexers he used still but i'm assuming a need something else to make up for the 1 plug instead of 2 scenario. any help would be much appreciated :)
2011-01-02, 10:19 PM
Hello, I am wondering if I could hook up my new equipment with what I have or if I have to purchase anything else...
I have a dish with two standard LNB's with two outputs on each... 82 and 91.
1 dual tuner HD IRD
2 single tuner HD IRD
and 1 single tuner SD IRD
I have 1 3x4 switch and 1 3x8 switch and also 1 sw21
Is there any way I can make what I have work or do I have to purchase more?
2011-01-02, 10:29 PM
Run BOTH 82 lines into an SW44.
Run BOTH 91 lines into your 3x4, 2 outputs into the SW44, 1 output directly to your SD Receiver, leaving a spare port.
Then use all 4 ouptuts of the SW44 for your 4 HD Tuners.
2011-01-02, 11:20 PM
so I need to get a sw44...
sounds good, thanks