: 9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101



Matnick
2010-01-14, 08:52 AM
Thanks Dosborne. I have looked all around for this topic and couldn't find exactly what I am looking for. Do you know specifically which thread? Does the grounding block need to be connected to the grounding rod?

neevnav
2010-01-14, 09:09 AM
Excellent, thanks for the info scrooloose and Pinza. Going to pick up the cable today and hopefully finish this install by the weekend as it's warming up and I can get on my roof!

Pinza
2010-01-14, 04:55 PM
Thanks Dosborne. I have looked all around for this topic and couldn't find exactly what I am looking for. Do you know specifically which thread? Does the grounding block need to be connected to the grounding rod?
The grounding block needs to be connected to a suitable ground. It does not have to be a rod.

pumpjockey
2010-01-18, 11:38 AM
hello
First of all if I am doing anything wrong I appologize, I could not seem to find my instalation type in the forum. I have a single dish (single Eye) with two coax lines coming into my house one going to tuner 1 on my 9242 the other going to a splitter and feeding tuner 2 and a single tuner 4100 reciever in the basement. the 9242 seems to work ok unless you are recording then i lose the signal every 10 mins or so and on the 4100 i only have partial programming. i have been trying to figure this out for a month. any help would be greatly appreciated thanks

kandkt
2010-01-18, 12:17 PM
You cannot use a splitters on satellite.

Do a search on a SW24 or SW34. That will take your 2 outputs from your dish and give you 4. You can then feed two to your 9242 and one to your 4100 and have a spare.

If you are looking to get HD, you will need a SW44.

pumpjockey
2010-01-18, 12:24 PM
thank you very much I will do the search

taxtwit
2010-01-18, 03:54 PM
I have a single dish (single Eye) with two coax lines coming into my house one going to tuner 1 on my 9242 the other going to a splitter and feeding tuner 2 and a single tuner 4100 reciever in the basement.
If by "single eye" you mean one LNB instead of two, then you have a single satellite set up and you won't be getting any HD channels. If you're going to change your hardware now, I would do an upgrade that would allow me to receive HD channels (either in the future, if you don't currently have a HD TV, or now, if you do (I think there's a couple of HD channels you get for free with Bell)). To do this, you'd need a 20" dish (if you don't have it already), a "Y" LNB adapter, a second LNB and a SW44 switch. You can usually find all this stuff on ebay/kijiji for $100 or so, v. $20-$40 for SW24 or 34.

tcx
2010-02-09, 01:05 AM
I'm sorry, but I don't understand much about satellites. I tried reading the forum but I don't understand.

I am an existing bell user. I want to buy the bell 9241 and use it for two tv's. Bell will not install it for me. Can I just buy the receiver and plug my existing cable to the 9241? Do I need to do add something? How do I get the second tv to work?

Pinza
2010-02-09, 06:05 AM
The 9241 does NOT support the 2 TV outputs that the 9200/9242 did.

You say you are an existing Bell subscriber, well, can you tell us how many receivers you have, models and the number of LNBF's on your Dish.? That will help us advise you on what you need extra.

If you were just planning on swapping out, say a 3100, with the 9241, then you would also need a second feed from the Dish/Switch, as the 9241 is a Dual Tuner Receiver and needs 2 seperate lines.

Why will Bell not install for you.?

erikt
2010-02-26, 11:43 AM
I apologize if this has been answered, I apparently can't wrap my head around this. I have a rental 6131 receiver working today but I'd like to replace it with a 9141 that I bought. I had a look at my dish this morning and it has a dual LNB with two co-ax cables connected to a box with a single co-ax output which then runs into the house. Inside the house there's simply a grounding block.

I think I need an SW44, but I have no idea how it should be hooked up. I only have the single co-ax output from my dish, do I remove whatever is turning the two cables from the LNB into one and run two cables into the house? Is there an easier way that avoids running two cables from the dish?

Thanks in advance for any help.
ET

scrooloose
2010-02-26, 02:03 PM
Look here: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=79117

-Mike

erikt
2010-02-26, 02:27 PM
Look here: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=79117

-Mike
I did, but I'm still not certain I'm getting it.

I think what I need to do is:
- remove whatever is on my dish turning 2 co-ax into 1 (SW21?)
- run both cables into the house and connect to two SW44 inputs
- run two SW44 outputs to the receiver

If this is wrong, why? If this is right, is there any way to avoid having to run two cables into the house, other than mounting the SW44 on the dish without power?
ET

Pinza
2010-02-26, 03:15 PM
The 2 lines feeding the SW21 are 1 from 91 & 1 from 82. The SW44, needs 2 feeds from 91 & 2 feeds from 82.

If you are going to return the 6131, you can just duplicate what you have now and add another SW21, the resulting outputs, from both SW21's will then feed the 2 Inputs of your 9241.

The SW44, can still be mounted on the Dish and then you run 2 lines into the house, making sure you put the power inserter on Port #1.

To feed your 9241 with just 1 line you would need to swap out the LNBF for a DPP Dual and then use a DPP Seperator behind the 9241 to feed both Inputs.

erikt
2010-02-26, 05:59 PM
Got it, thanks for your patience. I was thrown off by the SW21 installed on my dish plus the fact that the 2nd outputs of the LNB's weren't wired. I took a closer look and it all makes sense now.

Cheers,
ET

Pinza
2010-02-26, 06:14 PM
No problem, glad to help out.

ehmang
2010-03-30, 11:26 PM
I have a DPP Twin LNB feeding a 9242 using a DPP Seperator on one feed and a 5900 on the other feed. I want to replace the 5900 with a new 9242 (found the last one at the local thesource store) and the DPP Seperator I ordered on ebay hasn't arrived yet.

1. Can I use the 9242 with just one feed until the DPP Seperator comes?

2. Could/should I move the DPP Seperator from the old one to set up the new one and then move it back?

3. I have read that there is a limit of 6 receivers, does that mean 6 tuners or receivers.

Thanks

Pinza
2010-03-31, 06:39 AM
1. You can but the 9242 will then be plagued with error messages and it will miss recordings as it will be set to record on Tuner #2 by default.

2. I would not because the old 9242 will then be plagued with error messages and if it is still set to record to Tuner #2 as the default you will miss lots of recordings, but you can still do it if you like.

3. Limit is 6 Receivers NOT Tuners.

Why not just wait until the seperator arrives.?

ehmang
2010-03-31, 11:14 AM
Pinza says, "Why not just wait until the seperator arrives.? "

Good advice, I will take it.

Thanks

BIGD3167
2010-05-06, 06:05 PM
I have a DPP Twin LNB feeding a 9242 using a DPP Seperator. I can find both signals separately no problem but i cannot get them at the same time. Tried what i think is almost everything. skew, elevation nothin works. when i turn the dish i can find the signals separately nothin else seems to help so hopefully someone on here can!! thanx in advance!.

Pinza
2010-05-06, 07:00 PM
I always point the Dish with a single Legacy LNBF, then add the DPP when peaked, run a Check Switch and watch TV.

Others cover the 'lens' of the 82 and peak the DPP LNBF on 91, then uncover and again check switch etc.