: 9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101



lamajama
2007-11-16, 07:25 PM
I'll try it again like you suggest. Thanks for the help.

rudyjuly2
2007-11-17, 03:18 PM
I need help regarding the SW44. We had a 6100 with the SW44 already installed. We had three lines coming off the switch - one for the HD receiver in the family room and the other two for older SD receivers. We just bought the 9200 HD PVR (to replace the rented 6100). I thought I could just run a line from the open fourth output directly to the PVR and it should be OK. The last spot on the switch was open - does the order matter? The problem is I'm not getting the satellite signal on either the PVR or the old 2700 model when I test it.

I don't know if there is a problem at the SW44 switch (either the 4th line isn't working or I have the cables in the wrong order - keep in mind our HD 6100 and the other two receivers worked fine before) or if my crimp job isn't working. I did get one small kink in the RG6 cable I ran but I don't think that would be it.

I guess the ultimate question is whether the location of my 4th cable on the switch makes any difference? I don't know if its the switch, my crimp (which seems fine), or something else. Help?!

supergenius
2007-11-17, 04:00 PM
The location on the switch shouldn't matter as long you have the power inserter connected properly and you have 2 drops going to the 9200.

scrooloose
2007-11-17, 04:11 PM
Try connecting the 2700, on its own, to each output of the SW44. That should tell you if the switch outputs are okay.

If that works, try connecting your 2700 to the end of your new RG6 cable. If that doesn't work, then something is wrong with your cable. If it does, then your 9200 might be the issue. Did you try running a Check switch on the 9200?

-Mike

rudyjuly2
2007-11-17, 04:25 PM
The 2700 works on the bedroom feed but not on the new line I ran. I never changed the way the power thing was hooked up and the three receivers are all working fine. Its only the new line that isn't working on both the PVR or an old receiver. Its either the cable or the switch. When I was unscrewing the protective cap off of the SW44 for the extra line, the whole plug came out briefly (just a little). I screwed it back in and connected my line. How thick of a connection is inside the switch to each hub if you will? That could be my problem and I do have another switch after buying the 9200. I might switch two of the lines up on my roof to double check this. Who knows but its been frustrating.

I did run a check switch which fixed the PVR - wasn't getting the HD feeds initially but it said that I don't have a signal for tuner 2. Thanks for the help so far.

rudyjuly2
2007-11-17, 09:37 PM
Well I'm 90% certain I wrecked the SW44 switch when installing the 4th line. It had a screw cap on that was so tight I needed a wrench to get it off and then it spun the entire threaded area. I opened up the new SW44 I got with the 9200 and its nothing but a motherboard with very sensitive connections to the coax cables. I'm sure the fact the connection spun would have wrecked it. I'm going to switch the switches tomorrow and pray everything works.

scrooloose
2007-11-17, 11:03 PM
Another thing to make sure is that the center conductor of your RG-6 cable sticks out about 3 mm from the end of the crimp connector. If it's too short, it won't make contact in the switch. Good luck.

-Mike

SJ44
2007-11-17, 11:49 PM
When I was unscrewing the protective cap off of the SW44 for the extra line, the whole plug came out briefly (just a little). I screwed it back in and connected my line.
That output is probably bad now; the connexion of the connector to the board may have broken.

rudyjuly2
2007-11-18, 06:35 AM
That's what I'm thinking. I'm going to replace the switch with the new one this afternoon.
Thanks.

rudyjuly2
2007-11-18, 08:00 PM
It was the switch. I swapped them this afternoon, ran the checkswitch and everything works great. Thanks for the advice.

sctlenz
2007-11-23, 04:36 PM
Hi Guys this seems like the place to ask this question. I currently have a 9200 and 2 sd sat boxes hooked up with a sw44 switch. How can I add another 9200 into the mix without installing another dish and lbn.

Nimiq 1
2007-11-23, 07:25 PM
Hi Guys this seems like the place to ask this question. I currently have a 9200 and 2 sd sat boxes hooked up with a sw44 switch. How can I add another 9200 into the mix without installing another dish and lbn.
Either of these work just great, although I prefer the second one.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb213/Nimiq_1/Splitters.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb213/Nimiq_1/2xSW42-1.jpg

Abbyfroman
2007-12-04, 11:27 PM
Hi all. I have scoured this and other threads but have been unable to find the answer to what must be a simple question. I recently pruchased the BEV 9242 and have both the 91 and 82 LNBs on the dish. The dish came with the SW44 switch. I have only the 9242 dual tuner receiver.

My question: Do I have to have all four LNB outputs connected to the switch to run the one receiver. I would hope not, but I don't believe anyone has discussed the use of a sw44 switch to run ONE dual receiver and nothing else.

Anyone? I am at wits end trying to connect the dish and receiver?

Abby.

dbeb
2007-12-05, 12:38 AM
I am a newbie to all these cabling schemes, as I have had Bell in both times when adding equipment, and they ran the cable, etc.
After my last install (upon getting a 9200), I now have the dish mounted on the SW corner of my house, with the SW44 mounted at the rear of the dish. 2 of its outputs go directly into the house at the SW corner, feeding my family room's 9200, while the remaining two go around to the back of the house, and into the house where my old Cable TV distribution/spliiters, etc. were located. These 2 feeds then go to a 3100 in a bedroom and a 5900 in another bedroom.
Question:
I want to replace the 5900 with a 9242, as I just purchased a new Toshiba 1080P LCD for that bedroom. How can this be done, to fully use the 9242's dual tuners?
I do have a Spacelabs MS-34 switch that was installed by Bell when I first switched from Cable TV to BEV, and was used to distribute my BEV.....it is not used in my current configuration. Can it be used? Pls advise and tks!

Stan Dev
2007-12-05, 03:17 AM
My question: Do I have to have all four LNB outputs connected to the switch to run the one receiver. I would hope not, but I don't believe anyone has discussed the use of a sw44 switch to run ONE dual receiver and nothing else.


Assuming you want to receive programming from both orbital locations (a reasonable guess, given that it's an HD receiver you're asking about), then yes, you will need to connect all four LNB outputs to the four inputs on the SW44, and then run a pair of lines from two of the SW44 outputs to the 9242.

There are other ways to hook up a single 9242, but those require the same amount of cabling, just with different switches.

Note that the SW44 can be mounted right behind the dish, to minimize the distance that you have to run four lines.

robtsk
2007-12-05, 09:25 AM
My question: Do I have to have all four LNB outputs connected to the switch to run the one receiver.

Yes - the way to think about it is that each tuner needs access to two polarities from each of the two satellites, which the LNB-to-switch wiring gives you. Then each tuner needs a line from the switch.

Abbyfroman
2007-12-05, 03:48 PM
Thanks Stan Dev and robtsk for the quick and useful replies.

A couple more quick questions if I may be so bold:

1. Does the switch itself need to be protected from the elements?
2. Does the switch "care" which sat (91 or 82) goes into the sat1 inputs and which goes into the sat2 inputs?

Thanks once again for the help.

Cheers,

Abby

taxtwit
2007-12-05, 06:25 PM
Thanks Stan Dev and robtsk for the quick and useful replies.

A couple more quick questions if I may be so bold:

1. Does the switch itself need to be protected from the elements?
2. Does the switch "care" which sat (91 or 82) goes into the sat1 inputs and which goes into the sat2 inputs?

Thanks once again for the help.

Cheers,

Abby
1. No, although the chances of it failing quicker are higher if you don't protect it
2. No

Abbyfroman
2007-12-05, 07:19 PM
Thanks for the reply; it is very much appreciated.

To all who helped out, if we were in a bar, the next round would be on me.

Abby.

Nimiq 1
2007-12-05, 07:23 PM
Installation of an SW44 is not an absolute requirement for the 9242, however running 2 lines to the receiver is required for correct operation.

Alternate would be to install 2 x SW21's at the rear of the Dish. This option does not require any extra Power.