: 9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101
supergenius 2007-07-11, 01:04 PM Mechut,
I think what you are saying is correct. Just to clarify, here is how it should be done:
1. Install DPP Twin Lnb.
2. Run both lines out from the DPP Twin lnb to a DPP 44 switch.
3. Each line out from the DPP 44 would need a separator to supply both tuners on the 9200.
Ebay is by far the cheapest option. I recently purchased a DPP44 switch w/ power supply on ebay for $100 shipped.
peano 2007-07-11, 08:59 PM The twin can be Dishpro. You don't need a Dishpro Plus twin with the DPP44 switch.
Crazylegs 2007-07-14, 02:10 AM First post but I've been through this entire post trying to solve to my problem and have tried a few of the suggestions but to no avail. A little background: I live in Winnipeg and am trying to set up a 9200/9220 system with a SW44 switch for BEV HD. Everything is installed and working properly.
My problem is that I can pick up both satellite 82 and 91 at around 80% but never at the same time. 91 comes in at an elevation of 37.5, skew of 68 and azimuth of 150 while 82 comes in at an elevation of 34, skew of 91 and azimuth of 135. I've tried:
- bypassing the switch,
- blocking the 91 LNB,
- running check switches,
- locking in 91 then adjusting to try to find 82,
- etc.
I've been searching online for any ideas and this appears to be the best place for the most info. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
winnipeg will have a skew angle which you can look up in the manual. Set the skew angle and maximize 91. Whatever 82 comes in at is what you have to live with. You can tinket a little to get 82 a bit higher. I thought Winnipeg should be Ok with one dish. I know farther out west they need a separate bigger dish's.
If you still get nothing or a weak signal you are going to need a separate dish for one of the sats.
Crazylegs 2007-07-14, 11:19 AM Thanks for the info. Let me give a little more background in that I have two friends with the 9200 setup (one dish) in Winnipeg and installing their dish was not a problem. Also, the very first time we hooked up the satellite and tried pointing it, it automatically locked in at around 65% for both dishes and then performed the download steps. Once that was done, we had the Global TV HD channel only and we thought we would fine tune to get a higher signal and then proceeded to lose both signals to 0. Now we can't pick up both satellites at the same time again no matter what we try. I will try again by setting the proper skew and maximizing 91 but then what can I do any different to pick up 82? Is there something I need to do to reset the receiver and go back to square one? Thanks.
The way which most would recommend is to remove any wires and do a check switch to recognize nothing.
With only the 91 lnb on the arm and the dish skewed for your location maximize 91. Then hook up the 2nd lnb at 82 then proceed to run the check switch.
dosborne 2007-07-16, 08:08 AM Now we can't pick up both satellites at the same time again no matter what we try.
Although you should be able to get both, an option, perhaps not the best option, may be to run 2 dishes rather than a single dual.
Crazylegs 2007-07-17, 10:53 AM I definitely don't want to run seperate dishes if at all avoidable. If that's the only the option available, I will persue it.
My frustration stems from the fact that the system has briefly worked twice. That tells me that a second dish isn't necessary (hopefully) and the wiring is good. I will try the suggestion made by Q of unplugging both coax inputs, running a check switch, unplugging the 82 LNB, maximizing 91 and then hooking 82 back up and running a check switch. I'll let you know what happens. Thanks for the advice.
is the dish mounted on something solid and no obstructions like trees in front of it?
i hate tv 2007-07-17, 12:45 PM crazylegs, did you make sure the arm is plumb?
if not, the level/skew you were given for your area, will not work
i would take the dish off, and double check that it is plumb
aim for 91, once you get it, check signal on 82, then peak the signal
good luck
angrydude 2007-07-20, 10:56 AM Hi,
I recently had the 9200 installed in a new house and it is installed in my bonus room. I would like to use the one 9200 receiver but use it on multiple TV's as I would like to have just one receiver for all my recording but be able to watch it in the bedroom, downstairs, etc... The house is wired with cable running to each room from a central point in the basement. Is this possible to do and what is the best option? Also, is it possible for the other TV's to display High Def with this type of configuration? If so, what, if any, extra equipment is required?
Seems like this should be a relatively easy thing to do but there is no support out there and this forum is by far the best resouce I have come across. Any help is appreciated.
Crazylegs 2007-07-20, 10:59 AM I don't fully understand why but the dish is now working properly.
We first double checked the mount to see if it is plumb and found that it is. We then bypassed the switch and ran a check switch. Once that finished we maxed out the signal on 91 at 80%, then switched to 82 and it was receiving signal. We fine tuned 82 to about 75% and locked it down there. Hooked the switch back up, ran the check switch and got green OKs for both.
I'm not sure why this time it worked since we had tried this before with no success. Frustrating to say the least. Anyway, thanks again for the advice.
HDTV to multiple locations will involve using the only TV1 outputs for HDTV which are the HDMI and Component. If the 2nd HDTV is far you will either have to buy a long HDMI cable or buy or make (with RG6) component cable.
If you plan on using the UHF (blue) remote for either of the 2 TV's then the receiver will need to be in Single mode.
To get non HDTV the easiest is to use your home wiring. You run a cable (RG6) from the modulated output on TV2 into a amplifier which has as many outputs as you require. So you input the signal from the 9200 into the amplifier and then join the lines from the rooms into the outputs of the amplifier. You can use single or dual mode but most people use dual mode in this scenario.
afobigp 2007-07-21, 01:04 PM I have my 9200 connected with a SW44 & have 2 other tuners connected as well. Can you add more receivers with a Multi-switch? I have an s-2140 Mini Max multiswitch that I would like to use to add a 4th receiver.
Thanks!
I_Want_My_HDTV 2007-07-29, 02:18 AM I would like to use the one 9200 receiver but use it on multiple TV's
This is definitely possible. How it is done depends on the RG6 wiring available. If a free RG6 is at the 9200, connect it to the RF out on the 9200 and connect it to a cable splitter at the central location for the other TVs. If a free RG6 is not available, two multiplexers (about $6 each from kusat.com and other reputable dealers) can be used to feed the RF output from the 9200 back down the satellite cable. (I do this to feed a second TV.)
afobigp 2007-07-31, 05:48 PM If you cascade 1 SW44A with a current SW44, then do you get a possibility of 8 receivers (sd)?
Nimiq 1 2007-07-31, 07:33 PM Yes, all 8 outputs will have signals from both orbital locations, so HD is possible on all 8.
afobigp 2007-08-01, 10:26 AM This sounds like the way to go,
Nimiq 1 2007-08-01, 10:42 AM I think it's the cleanest way to do more than 4 tuners.
You can even add another SW44a to just to 12 outputs.
Although you can officially only have 6 receivers on an Express Vu account, this could at a pinch just be 6 x 9200's.......
another method which should work if you have a RCA distribution switch is to run the 2 lines from 91 into the RCA switch which will have 4 outs. Run 2 of those into the SW44 switch along with the 82 lines. Giving 4 tuners with 82/91 sats and 2 lines with just 91.
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