: 9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101



Q
2006-12-09, 02:17 PM
dc17,

glad to see it working.

joe

michaelr
2006-12-12, 11:40 AM
Hello: I have purchased a 9200 system. I am planning to purchase sometime in the future an HDTV but for now, I would like to have the 9200 connected to two SDTVs. Is this possible? thanks
Mike

North_of_Calgary
2006-12-13, 06:51 PM
^ Absolutely.

If your SDTV has component inputs, then you will be able to fully operate the 9200. If it does not have component inputs then you can still use the 9200, the only limitation is that you would have to be in single mode since you'll have to connect it to your TV via composite cables instead. so if you were using two SDTVs, then one would be hooked up via composite, the other coax, and they would both be viewing the same picture. That's the only limitation to your scenario.

I highly recommend choosing the 9200, even if you only have an SDTV.

michaelr
2006-12-13, 10:34 PM
thanks - somewhat encouraging... MY SDTV does not have component inputs. Am I correct in assuming that if I proceed this way that a second receiver will allow different programming to be watched on the second TV simultaneously? What splitter ir required and where does splitter go in hook-up? Or do you mean that instead of running two coaxials from the dish I need one coaxial and one composite ?
Mike

skitterpop
2006-12-19, 08:21 AM
Have the system (9200) installed and only the 91 LNBF hooked into the SW44 at this time the 83 LNBF has been left disconnected until I can get a signal. At present "0" signal strength will have to readjust the dish, my question is when I test the switch it cannot find it, is this normal?

Van G
2006-12-19, 08:39 AM
Do a direct connection from Sat 91 LNB to the Input 1 on your 9200. Align it and then connect the switch and other Sat.

misterroboto
2006-12-20, 10:02 PM
My 9200 receiver and dish are being shipped to my house tomorrow. I'm doing my own installation. My understanding was that I only needed to run two RG6 coax cables from the satellite dish. One for 91 sat and one for 82 sat. I figured both cables would then be plugged into a SW21 switch, and then a single RG6 cable would run from the switch to my receiver. My assumption was that this was enough for the dual-tuner on the 9200 to work. I then pre-wired another RG6 to run from the 9200 receiver into another room for a 2nd non-HDTV TV. I elected not to run another 2 cables from the dish because I assumed these would be for an optional 2nd receiver, which I have no plan on ever buying.

With this setup, will the 2nd TV be able to use the dual-tuner capability while someone in the other room (with the 9200) is watching another channel? Or did I screw up big time and I absolutely needed 4 RG6 cables to run from the dish?

scrooloose
2006-12-20, 10:47 PM
Read the posts earlier in this thread. Lots of posts on the subject.

Using the equipment supplied with the 9200, you need four RG-6 from the dish to the included SW44 switch (not a SW21). You then need two lines from the SW44 to the 9200.

-or-

Purchase (unsupported) Dishpro Plus equipment and you can use only the wires you installed.

-Mike

rkh
2006-12-20, 10:58 PM
I have a similar setup one dish and one 9200 driving 1 HDTV and 1 non-HDTV.

With the standard installation kit I think you can get away with 2 RG6 cables from the dish but they will both need to go to the 9200. The second tuner on the 9200 will drive your non-HDTV (over your third coax) just fine.

I would question your assumption about never getting a second receiver though. Some day when my non-HDTV dies, I will replace it with a wonderful new HDTV and I know I won't be at all satisfied driving it with an analog RF coax feed. It will need its own HD receiver

In preparation for that day, I purchased a Dish Plus Pro LNB and a Dish Plus Pro separator from ebay instead of installing the LNB/switch from the installation kit.

The Dish Plus Pro LNB allows you to run 1 coax to a 9200 and then at the 9200 the Dish Plus Pro separator separates the 1 coax into the 2 required for the 9200. That way I also ran 2 RG6 from my dish but only 1 goes to my 9200 and the other one is waiting at my non-HDTV for the day when I add another HD receiver. Another benefit of the Dish Plus Pro equipment is you can have RG6 cable runs of longer than 100 feet. My dish is on my detached garage and my cable runs are about 130 feet.

I_Want_My_HDTV
2006-12-20, 11:00 PM
You can mount the SW44 outside and use the 2 RG6s from the switch to the 9200. I suggest you mount the switch under an eave or some other location protected from rain and sun.

skitterpop
2006-12-21, 09:31 AM
I am hooked up but have a problem with sat 82; "point dish" on sat 91 gives me 97% on transponder 11 and shows goood signal on all transponders both odd and even. Sat 82 gives 0% on all even transponders and all odd transponders show good signal strength but are red and say wrong sat 91. I know my dish is set to the correct skew angle of 110 for my area of Nova Scotia. Note all channels come in fine and the program menu works fine but will not show any of the 800 series HD channels I ordered, any thoughts..

misterroboto
2006-12-21, 10:10 AM
The guy at kusat.com tells me that I asbolutely need to run 4 coax cables from the dish in order for me to get HD programming. I indicated that using the DPP Twin LNBF would prevent me from running two additional cables (I only have 2 coax cables running from where the dish will be located). He indicated that using the DPP Twin LNBF won't work for HD signals. All the threads I read do not seem to indicate this.

Who's right? Am I going to have to suck it up and run two extra cables?

I'm running everything to a single 9200 receiver.

just_syl
2006-12-21, 11:04 AM
With a DPP Twin LNB and a separator, you would just need one cable from the dish to the 9200. If you don't have a separator, you'll need two cables.

Beside, there's only 3 connections on a DPP Twin LNB (and one of them is for connecting another LNB). How can you run 4 cables from that?

Battscrew
2006-12-21, 07:07 PM
I am hooked up but have a problem with sat 82; "point dish" on sat 91 gives me 97% on transponder 11 and shows goood signal on all transponders both odd and even. Sat 82 gives 0% on all even transponders and all odd transponders show good signal strength but are red and say wrong sat 91. I know my dish is set to the correct skew angle of 110 for my area of Nova Scotia. Note all channels come in fine and the program menu works fine but will not show any of the 800 series HD channels I ordered, any thoughts..
Skitterpop - have you run a check switch? I assume you have 4 lines running from the dish (2-Sat91, 2-Sat82) running to your SW44?

misterroboto
2006-12-22, 09:53 AM
When I powered up the 9200 receiver for the first time ever yesterday, I got the 061 Boot Recovery warning. I powered off the receiver, hooked up the disk and found 91 bird with a satellite finder. I then hooked up a cable directly from dish to receiver, and powered up the receiver. Same message came up. The outfit that sold me the receiver tells me this should stay on for about an hour, and Bell is telling me it should stay on for about 20 minutes. I personally think I'm toast. The warning says it is actually downloading stuff to the receiver, but if I'm not pointed at the satellite correctly, then it might just sit there forever.

Anybody have any advice on this warning message or what if anything I need to do to clear it? Should I attempt to reset to factory defaults? How would I do that?

skitterpop
2006-12-23, 11:56 AM
Battscrew - Yep I have 4 lines running to the 44 switch. Test switch shows the 91 OK but the 82 shows no sat with an X. My son looked at the setup yesterday and thinks that the one big spruce tree near the front of my lot is blocking the 82 signal. It was fine on my old system 3500 with a single LNB so I mounted the new dish in the same place. When the weather improves we will try moving the dish to see if we can get a better line of sight. If its a no go, will try the dish in an enitly new location if that fails I will see if the retailer will give me a new 44 switch to try. Thanks for your response.

skitterpop
2006-12-25, 11:43 AM
Moving the dish about 3 feet to the right got it working. Signal on transponder 11 is 98% on sat 91 and 100% on sat 82. Juust a happy camper now, thanks to all for the help.

misterroboto
2006-12-28, 07:03 PM
I finally installed my dish and received my 2nd 9200 receiver yesterday (first 9200 would not boot). I get all 32 transponders on satellite 91, but for satellite 82, I only get the following odd transponders: 5, 7, 9, 11, 21, 25, 27, 29, and 31. The signals on those odd ones are about 75% on average. I get zero even transponders. I suspect there's a few branches in the way (for 82), but if that were the case, wouldn't I get far worse signals on 82? Why am I not picking up at least one even transponder?

I tried the above experiment with both the SW44 in the middle, and without it (plugged 82 LNBF directly into receiver). Results are the same in both cases. Would a few branches explain this behaviour?

vmpv
2006-12-29, 10:31 AM
I only get the following odd transponders: 5, 7, 9, 11, 21, 25, 27, 29, and 31. ?

I would suspect one bad cable from the 82 lnb to the switch. Try each one by itself to see if this is the case. Not all transponders work on 82 but there sure is a mix of odd and even.

s1301950
2006-12-29, 12:31 PM
ok.... after reading through the threads (not done yet), i'm still not sure if this question of mine is answered. If it's been answered, please let me know.

I'm having an installer coming over soon with a 9200. Now... i have one hdtv in the living room and one sd tv in the bedroom, thinking of having 9200 to drive both. There are already cables running to both locations from the basement. So the hdtv setup is straight forward - straight from basement to living room. My question is, how is the installer gonna wire the output of the 9200 inthe living room to the sd tv in the bedroom? can the wire go back down to the basement and then travel back up through the existing wiring?

Thanks, and much appreciated.