: 9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101



RezMan
2006-11-24, 10:59 AM
No, unfortunately. I've been working at it for over a week now with no luck. My last system was the 2700, and it was so easy. VMPV had mentioned about the signal. I go to the point dish signal strength screen, and I am getting nothing, and I believe I am in the general direction of the satellite (give or take 10 degrees - I've set the elevation and skew already). Could this be the issue with the switch error that I am getting? Could I be off enough with the position that I am getting no signal, and this cause me to get the switch error? Please let me know your thoughts>

Q
2006-11-24, 11:26 AM
i thought this was an addition. if you are setting up your dish it is best to get signal 91 directly to stb without any switches. then you add the 2nd lnb and add the sw44 and do another check switch. normally if you had 91 strong and added the 2nd lnb just minor tweaking is needed to get 91, 82 optimal.

joe

RezMan
2006-11-24, 12:31 PM
Thanks Q,

I will work through it as you suggested. I hope this solves the problem.

vmpv
2006-11-24, 02:54 PM
RezMan, check your private messages

kraddy
2006-11-29, 09:57 PM
I am in western Canada. I think I've read that it is best to use two dishes to go to a 9200. (I guess its ex 5 by thread starter.) I will be running a 2700, 3100 and my new 9200. Does it matter what size dishes?

Switch inside? Any other tips........ :confused:

Ps Buying 9200 off ebay - any unknown surprises I dont know :confused:
Cant wait post on 9200 owners thread....... I think.

westmanguy
2006-11-29, 10:08 PM
Well the 3100 is single tuner. I am not sure if the 2700 is signal tuner or not.

If your 3100 and 2700's are single tuners then the 9200's will take 2 lines.

So this might work off of 1 dish if you get 4 lines from the dish and your 2700 and 3100's are single tuners.

If not you have to go into all these multi-switches and stuff where I fall off the board in advice..

Battscrew
2006-11-29, 10:19 PM
You will need the 20inch dish with with the y yoke with 2 dual lnbs and a SW44 mutliswitch - 4 lines into the house connected to the multiswitch and from the multiswitch 1 line to the 3100, 1 line to the 2700 and 2 lines to the 9200

Q
2006-11-29, 10:54 PM
you would use 2 dishes for better reception. you have no location in your id so can't say if one will be good enough. Most people in vancouver need 2 for sure.

as stated above. run 2 wires from each dual lnb into a sw44 switch.

I personally would not buy a receiver from ebay. No warrenty, no dish, no extras, could be modified.

joe

westmanguy
2006-11-30, 09:32 PM
!!!HELP!!! Installer did a butcher job!

Ok got my 9200! and 4100, but this 9200 install thread.

So I got it all working great on 1 tuner.

I set it to dual tuner, and then it was attached to my second TV, yeah so the installer said as he left (me in a mess) it would be on channel 21-69 on the SD TV. So I flip through all the channels (second tuner on).

Nothing.

I am getting no picture/sound on my SD TV.

So this installer was awful, but besides the point. I NEED HELP!!!

Step by step info on this 2 TV mode on the 9200.

AND, this channel thing.

I would just like to set it to Channel 3 or 4, whats with 21-69??!!?

Also I have my HD (1rst TV) runing on component. The 9200 is connected to my HDTV with HDMI cord (perfectly).

I switch through all my HDTV's inputs, and only the component shows up on all the inputs.

Is their a certain way to switch the 9200 to HDMI instead of Component.

MUCH APPRECIATED.

Sincerely, A new ExpressVu customer who had a UN-professional install and is in a mess.

Q
2006-11-30, 10:49 PM
westmanguy,

its too bad you had a bad installer.

to get the 2nd TV working you need to go to:
menu, system setup, installation, modulator setup.

in that menu you choose Air or Cable and the channel.

As long as your TV is about 15 years or younger you will get signal right away as long as you have the right channel and Air or cable, Cable is also called CATV on many tv's.

Not sure what you saying about how you have component and HDMI connected. You have both connected to same TV?
The 9200 will output a HD signal on both HDMI and component video.

Hope this helps for now.

Joe

Gouie
2006-12-01, 09:58 AM
Don't panic, I was in the same boat. My installer was so glad when he finally got both satellites lined, he had no interest in showing me how to setup the receiver.

The manual does an excellent job of stepping you through configuring a second tv.

As far as the cable thing goes, sounds to me like a setting on the tv. Is the HDMI input enabled on your tv?

westmanguy
2006-12-01, 07:58 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Second TV set up.

The installer basically ran away after getting the line done (which he did horably), but thats another story (BEV rant thread).

Much appreciated!

To bad next week I am getting a re-install to completely redo my lines and dish, hopefully the receiver doesn't go back to factory default.

adman
2006-12-05, 10:38 PM
OK...so I am adding a second 9200 to home...in addition to 3 other standard def receivers.

Since I received a second SW44 with my second 9200 I am leaning towards splitting the four lines off of the dual LNB and running them into two SW44's.

I just want to make sure I get the right splitters and some advise at to where i can pick them up...I live in SW Ontario.

Any help would be appreciated.

westmanguy
2006-12-06, 05:57 PM
Wow, thats 7 lines!

to me it would make sense to get a 2nd Dish, (it isn't anymore monthly cost).

Wouldn't 7 lines degrade the signal (it would have to I think.....)

barter
2006-12-07, 08:57 AM
adman you should get some dishpro gear. A dish pro twin lnb and 3 dp34's. You will have just 2 lines going into your house from the lnb and the dp34 can be stacked one next to the other in a row. Might even be better to get dp plus gear and run just 1 line to your 9200's(from the dpp44 switch) and add a seperator just before the receiver to get 2 feeds, you will only need 2 switches as well.

The signal should not degrade.

Van G
2006-12-07, 11:56 PM
I'm pulling my hair out tonight!

I was getting some drop outs (picture and audio) while watching certain stations so I checked out the signal strength and it was pretty low on certain transponders.

After a chat with Tech Level 2, he thought I should fix my dish first before doing anything drastic like NVRAM dump and format. Of course I've been with the disk as is for years (1 yr with the 9200) but figured why not get a stronger all around signal.

I made all new cables, installed the SW44 (previous was 2 x SW21) and put the dish in a better location. When I took down the dish to move it higher I noticed that my elevation and azimuth weren't even close to what they should be. Then I remembered it took me forever to get the signal to lock years ago and I did all this pseudo math to get where I wanted.

So, I setup the dish and couldn't get a bleep out of the signal strength for the life of me (01-13-91). I run check switch and couldn't get either of the switches to pick-up.

Next call to Tech and I'm informed that Sat 1 needs to be plugged into Power Inserter which is plugged into Output 1, and Sat 2 needs to be plugged into Output 2. I have Sat 91's plugged into 1A & 1B and the 82's plugged into 2A & 2B.

He then says I need a signal before running check switch and that I will be able to get it no problem now that the SW44 is connected properly.

I tried for the life of me but can't get it to go!!!!!

Two Q's:
- do I need to plug the 91 directly into the 9200 so I can get the dish alinged and then hook up the switch?

- what the hell else am I doing wrong?

TIA from a man about to jump :)

Q
2006-12-08, 12:25 AM
i recommend just using 91 lnb to one reciever to get signal. then introduce the switch and 2nd lnb. after check switch do minor tweaks to dish to max. both signals.

dc17
2006-12-08, 09:03 PM
Hi all.

I have a new 9200 and SW44 install.

I get a signal only on 91. OK. I have to troubleshoot this weekend.

My question is: On a check switch (and it does find the SW44), it shows:
Missing: Port 1a odd
Missing: Port 1b even

But the 91 LNB is on the 1a 1b side and of course 82 is on 2a and 2b, yet I have a 80+ signal on 91.
Does this make sense?

Note power is on Port 1 of the sw44 and port 2 has a line to the second sat input of the 9200.

Thanks everyone

dc17
2006-12-08, 09:04 PM
i recommend just using 91 lnb to one reciever to get signal. then introduce the switch and 2nd lnb. after check switch do minor tweaks to dish to max. both signals.

And I will start with this tip on Saturday. :D

dc17
2006-12-09, 12:34 PM
And I did just that.
Started with the 91 side only, tweaked azimuth and tested both LNB's.
Started again and put LNB on the 82 side by itself and bingo. Good Signal.

It turns out I didn't have the bearing right. I was a few degrees off and had to go left a few more degress. Otherwise I'd get the "Missing Port" message from yesterday.

Thanks for having this forum. Several wrote this before: Start simple - one at a time.
You are right.

dc17