Check out the 9200 installation 101 thread at the top of the forum. It will answer all your questions.

http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26721

But to answer your question, the SW44 will take 2 inputs of 82 and and 2 inputs of 91 and make 4 outputs of 82/91 merged together. Yes you can only use 2 of the outputs if need be.

Do I need to run all 4 into the switch to get the 2 required for input to the 9200 ?

In the thread , all examples show 4 wires ( 2-82,2-91 ) conncted to SW44.

82 ----|SW44| --> 9200 ( #1 )
82 ----| | --> 9200 ( #2 )

I currently have 5800 and 3100 ( both pointing to 82 bird, I think ) I am pulling them out to install 9200 only, no addional recievers. I will be getting HD programming. Recieved 2 dual LBNF, dish and SW44 recently


If you currently have a 5800 and 3100 receiving programming, but none of it HD, then you are pointing at 91. If you were pointing at 82, you would be getting very, very few channels right now. 82 has all the HD channels but few SD channels. 91 has the vast majority of the SD channels. So if you wish to receive both HD and non-HD channels you will have to run all 4 cables to the SW44 once you install the new dish (or re-aim your current one if it is already elliptical).

Do I need to run all 4 into the switch to get the 2 required for input to the 9200 ?

In the thread , all examples show 4 wires ( 2-82,2-91 ) conncted to SW44.


Yes, The SW44 will require 4 cables. However, if you cant pass 2 more cables and only need the 2 inputs for your 9200, you might want to pick up 2 SW21 instead. The SW21 arent powered like the SW44 so you can keep it outdoors. So basically your setup would look like this:


82---SW21 --------------
91---|

82---SW21 --------------
91---|

The SW21 arent powered like the SW44 so you can keep it outdoors.
The SW44 can be outdoors also. The power inserter can be anywhere between the SW44 and the receiver. My SW44 is out at the dish and the inserter is right at the receiver.

True, my bad. I just realized I had installed mine outside too. The power pack is inside.

If he needs 4 inputs though without passing cables, can he use the 2 sw21's with a multiswitch?

Generally speaking, you can't use multiswitches with SWs. Multiswitches only pass the voltages necessary to change polarity, not to switch satellites. Of course, if a person only wanted 82 (or 91), they wouldn't need an SW at all, just a multiswitch. In the scenario the original poster is describing, he's only going to use a 9200. Assuming he wants both satellites, either the SW44 or the 2 SW21 scenarios will work. If he ever wants to add other receivers he can run 2 more cables into the house from the SW44, however there are diplexer solutions that will work with just 2 cables coming in.

hello i currently have a 6100 hooked up. outside i have i guess 2 dual lnbs as i can see 4 wires coing from the lnbs to two junction boxes ( sw 21 ?)
the two lines then come into the house one to the 6100 and one too a 2700.

can i take these two indoor lines and feed them to the sw44 ?, then take 2 to the 9200 one to the 2700 and have a spare?

thanks

someone help me please!! Here's my deal... I have 2 6100 HD recievers in my home. Getting rid of one of them AND replacing it with a 9200 HD PVR. So up on the roof what do I need to do, with what extra hardware?? I know i need to run a total of 2 coaxil cables into the back of the 9200 for it to work, I have dual sw44 switches now. I called Bell but I didn't have the patience OR understanding of what he was saying on the phone.. something about power inverters..blahblah...If I could get simplistic technical language from someone, I would be ECSTATIC!!!

you will need 4 wires coming down from your dish into your 4x4 multiswitch...from there, one line going to your 6100 and two lines going to your 9200...it might be worth paying for someone to hook it up if you are unsure about it, but that is basically what you have to do.

someone help me please!! Here's my deal... I have 2 6100 HD recievers in my home. Getting rid of one of them AND replacing it with a 9200 HD PVR. So up on the roof what do I need to do, with what extra hardware?? I know i need to run a total of 2 coaxil cables into the back of the 9200 for it to work, I have dual sw44 switches now. I called Bell but I didn't have the patience OR understanding of what he was saying on the phone.. something about power inverters..blahblah...If I could get simplistic technical language from someone, I would be ECSTATIC!!!

Furthermore, the "power inverters" you're speaking of might be misunderstood as "power inserters".

On your SW44s, one of the jacks (usually number 1) needs the power inserter. What that means is you need to connect this extra box to the SW44 to port 1 that goes to your receivers. I think if you're looking at it facing up, it's on the top left side while the right side jacks are left for the cables that come from your dish. So, you use a coax RG6 cable to connect the power inserter to port 1, then your first receiver (lets say your 6100) to the power inserter. The power inserter comes between the first receiver and the SW44 switch. Bell receivers send some power to the LMBFs (or the EYES of the dish) but normally it's not enough. So when you have more than one receiver, and you have more than one "EYE", you need this power inserter to provide more power to the "EYES".

Just a heads up, you should send your 9200 questions to the 9200 specific forum or else you get into trouble. :)

As for which cables coming from the 2 "EYES", I believe your 9200 comes with another "EYE" and possibly a contraption which allows 2 "EYES" to point at the dish at the same time. The two cables are split with even and odd transponders. I'm not sure which one is considered A and which corresponds to B on your SW44 switch but once you figure that out, both "EYEs" should have 2 cables coming from it and connect to the corresponding A and B on the SW44. The 1 and 2 markings on the SW44 are cables from either "EYEs". So two cables come from EYE 1 and connect to the SW44 label 1 A and 1 B connector. Then EYE 2 connects to the SW44 label 2 A and 2 B connector.

I hope this helped a little, I'm tried to simplify this as much as possible.

someone help me please!! Here's my deal... I have 2 6100 HD recievers in my home. Getting rid of one of them AND replacing it with a 9200 HD PVR.
You'll only have HD on one of the two TVs with the 9200.

All you need to do is find an unused output on one of the SW44s and run an extra RG6 from the SW44 to the 9200. That is if they are SW44s. If all you have connected is 2 6100s, they might be SW21s.

You should have received a SW44 with the 9200. Wiring a SW44 from scratch: Run 4 RG6s from the LNBs into the SW44. I recommend you mount the SW44 under an eave or inside. Run a new RG6 to the 9200. Connect the new RG6 into port 1 of the SW44 and into the power inserter. Run an RG6 from the power inserter to the 9200. The two existing RG6s can go to other SW44 outputs (2, 3, 4.) The SW44 should come with instructions.

LIVE4CFL- from what you have described it sounds like you currently have a setup like what I showed in example #4 of this thread. Is this correct?

If so, you will need to make it look like I have shown in example #3.

Sorry if asked before... is there any way to use 2 dual legacy lnbs on an eliptical dish to feed the 9200? ie a multiplexor or a sw21 with a lead from each of 91 and 82...?

In my examples using either the SW44 or the two SW21s; it doesn't matter if the LNBs are legacy or Pro.

The only reason I used the examples with the Pro/DPP hardware was because when the 9200 first came out there was a great deal of concern from people who only had one coax cable running to their receiver.

I thought I’d share my ExpressVu adventures concerning HD signal strength with this forum. Reading here has provided me with lots of information so I thought I’d give a little back.

First, a little history. I traded up from a 6000 to a 9200 HD receiver. I kept the 20” dish that bell had installed, ran two new RG6 cables up to the dish, removing the SW22s and connecting the SW44 and power inserter at my basement distribution point.

I soon discovered that what I considered relatively minor storms produced program outages. Checking signal strength showed levels in the 70s-80s on clear days, and <50 in loss periods. Since I was in Ottawa, and not in the TWT, it seemed that I should be getting enough signal from the satellites.

I created a checklist to verify my system:

Ran Check Switch a few times. All was good – check
Rebooted many times - check
Talked to Bell CSR. Oh stop rolling your eyes. Yes they were useless but it was on my to do list - check
Coax cabling from end to end was RG6 – check
Verify all connectors were well crimped. One was faulty (from original Bell installation) - check
Verify all center conductors were sticking out at least a ¼” past the F-connector – check
All crimp on F-connectors outside the house were water proof types – check
Make sure cables outside the house had drip loops – check
Try exchanging cables to find differences. No major differences found – check.
Re-peak the dish this time for 82 instead of 91. Credit where credit is due, the installer had found the strongest position – check.

I finally decided to buy a second dish and use both, one for the 82 bird and the other for the 91. Not wanting to take any chances, I bought a 24” Winegard. Pointed it and found a marginal 2-5% improvement. NOT WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!!!

I couldn’t believe my eyes, so I re-mounted it on my deck and ran two new cables of the same length directly to the SW44. No difference. After grumbling about it to my wife, she asked “can’t you buy a bigger dish?” (16 years and I still love her) so I ordered and installed a 30” Winegard.

The happy ending to the story is now all transponders are coming in between 93-100% and after 2 weeks and 2 decent storms, no rain fade!

Gumby Dan

I'm upgrading a 3100 to a 9200 but I don't have the extra cables & sw44 switch installed yet. I'm itching to try the 9200, but I heard that both inputs need to be connected or the 9200 won't accept programming updates. Is this true?

Thanks.

IIRC you do need both connected or else it gives you an error message.

You could unplug the 3100; just be sure to plug it back in within 6 days or else you may start to lose channels.

This seems as good a thread as any for this question. If the exact answer already exists somewhere within the previous 56 pages, please forgive me.

I'm going to be moving in a few months and am hoping to achieve a "one cable" installation to be able to make use of the new house's existing set up. In particular, I'd like to get all of 5 my BEV receivers functional, but only have a single cable entering the house. The receivers are: two 6100s, two 3100s, one 2700.

I bought one of the 6100s in a 6120 kit, so I have an unused 20" dish, two twin LNBs and a SW21 I can use in the new house. What I hope I can do is the following:

1. Set up dish with both LNBs.
2. Run one cable out of each LNB (one for 92, one for 81) into the SW21.
3. Run the single "output" cable from the SW21 into the house.
4. Use a "separator" (DPP 44?) to split the one cable signal into the five signals to feed all my receivers.

Will this work? Any responses much appreciated!