Hope that helps.

Joe

Yes it helps but it's not what I wanted to hear ;)

How many people have 2 cable runs going into the room with these receivers? I would think Bell gets hammered by calls from people scratching their head over this.

Sooooooo another $200 in equipment or punch a couple holes in my drywall, run the 2nd feed and patch it back up....decisions decisions.

Stevelev,

I'll give you a better description of what I've done to see if it helps for what you want to do. If not, post more detail and we'll get there eventually.

My situation:
- none of my TVs are HD and they are all older, so only have composite and coax connections
- thus cannot use TV1 outputs, can only use TV2 outputs
- thus must use 9200 in Single mode (thus only one channel can be output at a time)
- the TV2 composite output goes to the TV in the living room where the 9200 is also located
- the TV2 coax output goes to the basement where the SW44 switch is located.
- the TV2 coax output and one output from the SW44 go into the diplexor. The output of the diplexor goes to the master bedroom.
- in the bedroom, the coax feeds into a diplexor. The outputs of the diplexor go into a 3100.
- in the bedroom, I now can watch whatever is output by the 9200, or if I want to watch a different channel, I can watch the output of the 3100.
- this is done using the TV/video button on the 3100. on one setting, it outputs the 3100 signal and I turn the TV to channel 3(or is it 4?). On the other setting it outputs the 9200 signal and I turn the TV to the channel that the 9200 is set for it's modulated output (and I use remote 2 to control the 9200) - you can also just turn the 3100 off to do this.

- this way I can use the 9200 in single mode, but still be able to watch a different channel in the bedroom. This does not happen much, as my wife and I usually are watching the same thing, but once in a while it happens.

Hope this helps and is not too confusing. If you want further details or clarificaiton, let me know.

Me again. Thanks for the info so far but I wanted to focus on a question I had in a previous post.

I have a oval dish atm with 1 LNB that has 2 lines running in. My understanding was that the 2 LNB solution was to grab signals from 2 Satellites. Last night I was playing with one of my receivers and I discovered I was getting over 90% signal strength on both 91 and 82. Is my current setup suitable for HD or is there another reason I need the 2nd LNB installed and 2 extra lines ran?

dezzpayne,

did the signal say locked on 82 at the bottom of the screen? Probably not.

When you have a signal on 91 with no lnb for 82 and switch to 82 on signal screen you will get the same signal except it will say "NOT LOCKED" or something like that.

Joe

stevelev,

are you trying to use a cable from the SW44 output split using a A-B switch?

explain what you have and what you are trying to do with which cable you have where and i can suggest something for you.

joe

dezzpayne,

did the signal say locked on 82 at the bottom of the screen? Probably not.

When you have a signal on 91 with no lnb for 82 and switch to 82 on signal screen you will get the same signal except it will say "NOT LOCKED" or something like that.

Joe

Ahh ok, 9AM and I already learned something new. Gonna be a good day :p

Stevelev,

I'll give you a better description of what I've done to see if it helps for what you want to do. If not, post more detail and we'll get there eventually.

My situation:
- none of my TVs are HD and they are all older, so only have composite and coax connections
- thus cannot use TV1 outputs, can only use TV2 outputs
- thus must use 9200 in Single mode (thus only one channel can be output at a time)
- the TV2 composite output goes to the TV in the living room where the 9200 is also located
- the TV2 coax output goes to the basement where the SW44 switch is located.
- the TV2 coax output and one output from the SW44 go into the diplexor. The output of the diplexor goes to the master bedroom.
- in the bedroom, the coax feeds into a diplexor. The outputs of the diplexor go into a 3100.
- in the bedroom, I now can watch whatever is output by the 9200, or if I want to watch a different channel, I can watch the output of the 3100.
- this is done using the TV/video button on the 3100. on one setting, it outputs the 3100 signal and I turn the TV to channel 3(or is it 4?). On the other setting it outputs the 9200 signal and I turn the TV to the channel that the 9200 is set for it's modulated output (and I use remote 2 to control the 9200) - you can also just turn the 3100 off to do this.

- this way I can use the 9200 in single mode, but still be able to watch a different channel in the bedroom. This does not happen much, as my wife and I usually are watching the same thing, but once in a while it happens.

Hope this helps and is not too confusing. If you want further details or clarificaiton, let me know.


Skram, thanks again for responding. Much appreciated.

It certainly sounds similar to what I'm attempting to do. I would like to have the ability downstairs to watch either the 9200 (if it's the only TV being watched), or the 3100 (if the 9200 is already in use).

I understand joining the output of TV2 and an output from SW44 into a diplexor, and running the coax output from the diplexor to the 3100 in question. However, you then say "in the bedroom, the coax feeds into a diplexor. The outputs of the diplexor go into a 3100." I assume this is a second diplexor to split the signals back. There are now two outputs from the diplexor, one will be from the dish and the other from the 9200. Do they both go to the 3100? I would assume the output from the dish would go to the "Satellite In" coax connector, but where does the output from the 9200 go?

I'm not sure I fully understand "this is done using the TV/video button on the 3100. on one setting, it outputs the 3100 signal and I turn the TV to channel 3(or is it 4?). On the other setting it outputs the 9200 signal and I turn the TV to the channel that the 9200 is set for it's modulated output (and I use remote 2 to control the 9200) - you can also just turn the 3100 off to do this." however perhaps I'll understand it better when I find out where the two outputs from the diplexor go.

Lastly, where can one buy a couple of diplexors and approx how much do they cost.

Thanks again,
Steve

steve,

all a diplexor does is join/split the digital signal (satellite) and the analouge (coax out from anything) so they can share the same wire.

If you have house wiring you can output the 9200 to every TV in the house.

You don't need to input it into the 3100. You can input directly into TV or VCR as well. The TV Video button only switches the 3100 to the ANT IN input.

I think its in the 9200 forum somewhere there are many many examples of how to do this and a lot more.

I assume this is a second diplexor to split the signals back. There are now two outputs from the diplexor, one will be from the dish and the other from the 9200. Do they both go to the 3100? I would assume the output from the dish would go to the "Satellite In" coax connector, but where does the output from the 9200 go?

I'm not sure I fully understand "this is done using the TV/video button


Steve, Yes the second diplexor splits the signals back. So you have the one cable going into the second diplexor and two outputs from it. One goes to "Sat in" as you said, the second goes to "Ant in" (I think that's what it says).

The tv/video button on the remote for the 3100 switches the output from the 3100 between these two inputs (one for the regualr 3100 output/Sat in, the other as a pass-through for the "Ant in" - pass through of Ant in also is what happens when the 3100 is off.)

I bought my diplexors at Kent for about $10 each. You can also find them at theSource, Home Depot, Princess auto, probably Future Shop.

Good luck and let me know if you have other questions.

PS. If you want, you can also only put Sat In into the 3100 and output it via composite to the TV and then put the othe diplexor output directly to the coax in of the TV and then use the TVs input choices to switch between them (I don't do this as my composite in for the TV is loose and flakey).

One more note Steve, you probably know this, but for completeness I'm adding. You must also turn the second TV to the appropriate input for the signal you want to view, that is:

- to watch 9200, turn the TV to the channel you set on the 9200 for its modulated output
- to watch 3100, turn the TV to channel 3/4 (depending on setting) if you are using coax or to Input1 for composite inputs.

i have a sony Sony's KV32FS320 32" FD Trinitron® WEGA® TV, its a 480i, will i be able to have a 9200 and use it also for tv1 and tv2, will i be able to set the ird to the 480i, i know it has the option be to set it will i be able to do it? because i can buy the 5200 but 9200 it,s a better deal?

pls help. i get a signal of over 90 on sat. 91 always, but on 82 its just "wrong sat ...." in red. can someone help with alignment numbers. (does it matter if sat91 cables go to 1a / 1b on sw44?)

mmyers, I have the exact problem... over 95 on all transponders for sat 91 and nothing for sat 82 through SW44. I believe I'm following the instructions but clearly missing something. If you fix yours, let me know. Thanks.

the best way is to setup is to skew your dish as per manual. Use only the 91 lnb. Get best possible signal and then add the 82 lnb and do a check switch.

You may want to adjust slightly after that to even the numbers out.

One more note Steve, you probably know this, but for completeness I'm adding. You must also turn the second TV to the appropriate input for the signal you want to view, that is:

- to watch 9200, turn the TV to the channel you set on the 9200 for its modulated output
- to watch 3100, turn the TV to channel 3/4 (depending on setting) if you are using coax or to Input1 for composite inputs.

Thanks skram and joedoe, I got my set up working.

I bought 2 diplexors (they're around $24 in Canada, $20 in the US) and I can now watch either my 3100 (Video input) or the 9200 (Ch. 60) on my downstairs TV.

I also boutght and A/V switch as the TV nearest the 9200 (upstairs) has only one set of composite inputs.

The A/V switch I bought had four inputs and two outputs. I only needed a switch with two inputs, but I figured the other inputs may come in handy someday. I didn't think I'd need the two outputs, however when I needed to hook up the ole VCR in line with the 9200 and the TV, it came in handy.

I initially tried to output the 9200 composite to the VCR and then on to the TV, however the only way to then watch the 9200 on the TV was to have the VCR powered on all of the time, which I didn't want to do.

What I was able to do was to use the second output on the A/V switch (the first output of course goes to the TV) to go to the VCR's A/V input, and then connect the VCR back to the TV via coax.

This way any time the 9200 is on and the A/V switch in the TV position, if I want I can tape to the VCR. To watch a VCR tape, I just put the TV on Ch. 3 instead of Video.

Anyway, thanks again all. Much appreciated!

Steve

Steve, Glad to hear you got it all working!

If you have any more questions, please post them.

Enjoy!

the best way is to setup is to skew your dish as per manual. Use only the 91 lnb. Get best possible signal and then add the 82 lnb and do a check switch.

You may want to adjust slightly after that to even the numbers out.

Thanks, the skew worked, sort of... I can get fine signal on both 91 and 82 if I "bypass" the SW44 switch. Still couldn't get 82 after check switch so, for sanity, I ran one line from each LNB directly into the 9200 inputs. One 91 line into sat1 input. One 82 line into sat2 input. Locked and great signal on both. Any ideas? Is my SW44 defective?

are you running all 4 lines and using the power inserter with power connected?

Yes, and I checked both lines from 91 and 82 when going direct to the 9200.

the only thing to try is switching 1B to 2B and vice versa.

It sounds like you have a bad SW44 switch however.

oh wait. One other common problem with the switch is that it needs very long leads from the wire.

You can also try re-stripping the wire to have about a 1/4" copper sticking out and see if that does the trick.

Joe