There are people who have stated they did not plug it in and it worked fine with multiple receivers.

when I set it up for someone......it did not work properly until I plugged it in.

I am not sure what causes it to work and not work with the power inserter.

Thanks for the reply.
Once we plugged it in all was fine. :cool:

I think you made a mistake on this connection. The power inserter should be connect to rg6 cable to the 9200, not to the single tuner.

Option#3- Using an SW44
Once again, this method is pretty easy. As well, this method will be supported by Bell as it is using hardware that Bell sell. In fact, this uses the hardware included in the 9220 package. Previous methods used Dish Network (Echostar) hardware.

The 9220 package will come with 2 Dual LNB's. You take the 4 outputs from those LNB's and with 4 cable runs, connect them into the switch. You then take the 2 of the outputs of the switch, run them to the 9200 receiver. Once again you can use the remaining 2 connections to connect to up to 2 more Bell receivers.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/ken0042/9200_sw44_2.jpg

The diagram is correct. The power inserter needs to be connected to port 1 of the SW44 switch. You can optionally connect a tuner to its output, doesn't matter which receiver.

-Mike

The diagram is correct. The power inserter needs to be connected to port 1 of the SW44 switch. You can optionally connect a tuner to its output, doesn't matter which receiver.

-Mike

Ok Mike I see. Someone told me that the installation with 2 SW21 (passif mode) is better than with the SW44 and Power inserter. What do you think of this?

I am a new member of this forum, and have recently purchased a BEV 9200. I have hooked everything up, and the system is working fine except for a few channels on SAT 82.

When I run Check switch I get the following error:

Missing: Port 2b Sat 82 Even

My signal for all Even Transponders on SAT 82 is zero and the signal for the Odd Transponders on SAT 82 are in the mid 80s.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any help would be appreciated.

Great info on installation types. Just purchased the 9200 for new to us home. We are in the midst of renovations before we move in and want to get all cabling in before walls are closed in. The house had a fully functional 3100 system (90% signal on 91) with two cables from the LBN. We were told that we could just swap the receivers by the person in the Bell store in London.. Well that didn't work so we proceeeded to change the dish and added the SW44.. still no signal. We have checked and re-checked all cables and connections. There is conflicting information in the box as to where the SW44 should be located - inside or out? and how far from the dish. We finally gave up ourselves and called for "profeesional installation". after waiting all day for them to arrive , and losing a day's pay they did not show up. After over an hour on the phone trying to get a new appointment we are told it could be three more weeks.. Any suggestionson what we could try and where the SW44 should actually be placed?:confused: Thanks

Most SW44 switches are rated for inside or outside but I suggest you locate the switch inside your house for ease of maintenance, weather etc. See this previous thread on the subject:

http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20363

The switch can be located anywhere along the path as long as you use the included power inserter (and you should use it) and are using RG-6 coax cable. I'm not certain of the maximum distance limit (perhaps 100-150 ft). You need four lines from your new 20" dish to the switch, and two lines to your 9200.

Connections should be as follows:


91 goes into 1A & 2A
82 goes into 1B & 2B.
Power inserter goes into port 1 of the switch.
Receivers connect to the "Receiver" port of the power inserter or ports 2, 3 & 4 directly on the switch.

If you have done all that and still no go, your dish is likely not aligned correctly. I can't help you there but there are many threads on the subject for do-it-yourself. Personally I installed everything except for the dish and alignment. I hired a professional to do that!

-Mike

Thanks Mike.. Bell is suppose to be here to aim the dish tomorrow... all else checks out.. we will take your advise and move the SW44 inside.:p

Hello all, I've been a BEV customer for several years and am now going to make the leap to HD, but in two stages (read: can't afford the TV at the moment).http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_frown.gif
:(

I currently have a 46 cm dish with one dual-output LNB, with each output connected to a different receiver (2700 + 3100). What I'm going to do is buy the 9220 (9200, dish and SW44 included), so I can use the PVR, but not use the HD portion until later this year or early next year.

Question: can I continue to use my existing dish with only 2 cables to connect both the dual tuner 9200 and the 3100 using the SW44? All of the diagrams I've seen show 4 inputs to the SW44, and then going to any number of different output combinations, but I'll only have two inputs. Can I use the included SW44, or do I have to buy a different piece of hardware, such as a DPP seperator that I saw here. Or, least preferrable, do I have to replace my dish at this time, even thoug I'm not going HD yet.

Addendum: I know I could use the UHF remote that comes with the 9200 to control the second TV instead of using the 3100 receiver, but I'm planning on using that on a third TV, so I still need to wire the 3100.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Steve

Hello all, I've been a BEV customer for several years and am now going to make the leap to HD, but in two stages (read: can't afford the TV at the moment).http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_frown.gif
:(

I currently have a 46 cm dish with one dual-output LNB, with each output connected to a different receiver (2700 + 3100). What I'm going to do is buy the 9220 (9200, dish and SW44 included), so I can use the PVR, but not use the HD portion until later this year or early next year.

Question: can I continue to use my existing dish with only 2 cables to connect both the dual tuner 9200 and the 3100 using the SW44? All of the diagrams I've seen show 4 inputs to the SW44, and then going to any number of different output combinations, but I'll only have two inputs. Can I use the included SW44, or do I have to buy a different piece of hardware, such as a DPP seperator that I saw here. Or, least preferrable, do I have to replace my dish at this time, even thoug I'm not going HD yet.

Addendum: I know I could use the UHF remote that comes with the 9200 to control the second TV instead of using the 3100 receiver, but I'm planning on using that on a third TV, so I still need to wire the 3100.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Steve

Everything you're buying with the 9200 will accomodate your needs. The 9200 has a composite video out to connect it to an SDTV. You can still watch the HD channels, however, the 9200 will down-convert the signal to 480i. The 9200 package also comes with the additional dual LNBs you'll need. Since you're purchasing the 9200 now and get installation included, have them install the new dish with the included LNBs, the SW44 switch, and the receiver. From the SW44 switch you can use two feeds for the 9200 and the other two feeds for your 2700 and 3100. Apparantly you'll still have the second dish if you want more receivers at a later date. You definitely don't need the DPP hardware UNLESS the room you're going to be installing the 9200 cannot accomodate two RG6 lines. Then the DPP separator is the solution but you will need to upgrade your LNB to a Dish Pro Plus Twin or Dish Pro Twin with the DPP44 switch. Bell doesn't sell these items and you will most likely have to purchase them off eBay.

Hope this helps

Sam

I'm new to this forum and a very unsatified 9200 owner. I had so called professional installers come and set everything up but getting an unsatisfactory outcome for the money spent. As far I can see it the system is set up using Ken0042 option 3. I previously had a 4700 receiver and a 20" dish and it worked great with my Sony 36" 4 X3 XBR HDTV. The picture was absolutely fantastic.

The installers ran an extra 2 lines into my basement utility room to join up with the existing 2 lines from the initial setup. From there they installed the SW44 switch and connected the 2 lines I already had run to the back of my 9200. The power inserter was placed behind my Sony and connected to Sat #1 on the 9200. I'm not connecting the 9200 up to any other receiver through TV2 but I see the installers have run a line into my VCR. I'm receiving all the channels I signed up for but all of my SD channels and any HD channels that are not true HD are appearing inside of black bars all the way around the small picture. The SD channels do not come in nearly as well as my 4700 setup...in fact it's just unacceptable. True HD has bars above and below the picture. I believe that's correct. I phoned Bell and they are sending me out another receiver to try. If that doesn't work I'm at the point of putting back up my old dish and selling off the new equipment. Can anyone out there please help?

rockey,

that is what generally happens when you use component or hdmi cables. They magnify the problem which was always there.

I would assume you used S-video or composite with your old receiver.

joe

rockey,

that is what generally happens when you use component or hdmi cables. They magnify the problem which was always there.

I would assume you used S-video or composite with your old receiver.

joe
Thanks for responding Joe. Yes I used the S-video cable with my old receiver (which I still have). Can I get around this problem? Right now I just can't stand the bars all the way around the picture or the quality of the picture. I get the feeling you believe that the new receiver Bell is sending me won't fix a thing?

I don't have any experience with 4X3 HD tv's. All I can suggest is changing the ty type 1 or 2. I don't know how the bars work.

Your old picture should be pretty good but you should still notice macro blocking with using S-video. It only gets worse the higher up the ladder you go.

Another factor may be the Sony Tv. It may actually process the S-video very very good and hide the macro blocks better.

Yes......I believe the new receiver will make no difference.

Joe

I'm new to this forum and a very unsatified 9200 owner. I had so called professional installers come and set everything up but getting an unsatisfactory outcome for the money spent. As far I can see it the system is set up using Ken0042 option 3. I previously had a 4700 receiver and a 20" dish and it worked great with my Sony 36" 4 X3 XBR HDTV. The picture was absolutely fantastic.

The installers ran an extra 2 lines into my basement utility room to join up with the existing 2 lines from the initial setup. From there they installed the SW44 switch and connected the 2 lines I already had run to the back of my 9200. The power inserter was placed behind my Sony and connected to Sat #1 on the 9200. I'm not connecting the 9200 up to any other receiver through TV2 but I see the installers have run a line into my VCR. I'm receiving all the channels I signed up for but all of my SD channels and any HD channels that are not true HD are appearing inside of black bars all the way around the small picture. The SD channels do not come in nearly as well as my 4700 setup...in fact it's just unacceptable. True HD has bars above and below the picture. I believe that's correct. I phoned Bell and they are sending me out another receiver to try. If that doesn't work I'm at the point of putting back up my old dish and selling off the new equipment. Can anyone out there please help?

I'm not cretain but it sounds to me like you've got the receiver set to 16x9 when it should be set to 4x3. I would check the menu under HDTV setup to make sure the receiver is outputting the correct format for your TV. The black bars on the top and bottom will be correct for true HD channels on a 4x3 TV. But it should fill the whole sceen when you're watching an SD channel. When you're watching a 4x3 program on an HD channel you will still get the black bars all the way around your screen as it's the station that is adding the black bars on the sides in that case. You should be able to use the format/zoom function on the remote to fill the whole screen which I think is the only solution for a 4x3 HDTV.

Sam

I'm not cretain but it sounds to me like you've got the receiver set to 16x9 when it should be set to 4x3. I would check the menu under HDTV setup to make sure the receiver is outputting the correct format for your TV. The black bars on the top and bottom will be correct for true HD channels on a 4x3 TV. But it should fill the whole sceen when you're watching an SD channel. When you're watching a 4x3 program on an HD channel you will still get the black bars all the way around your screen as it's the station that is adding the black bars on the sides in that case. You should be able to use the format/zoom function on the remote to fill the whole screen which I think is the only solution for a 4x3 HDTV.

Sam
I have the receiver set to 4X3(1). I agree that the blacks bars should be top and bottom for true HD on a 4X3...that doesn't bother me. It's the fact that it does not fill the whole screen when watching an SD channel. I also don't mind the black bars when watching a 4X3 program on an HD channel...doesn't everybody have to put up with that? The only way I can get a full screen is if I go to video 1 input on the TV instead of video 5 or 6 where the componet cable is currently connected and switch the receiver to 4X3(2) and then zoom it out the max. Then the picture quality is even worse than before....and it was bad then. I just talked to someone who suggested changing out the componet cables that Bell provided with the 9200 to a higher quality cable. I just don't want to blow more cash if that isn't a suggested solution by someone in the know.

the cables provided by bell should be fine.

How does HD look?

the cables provided by bell should be fine.

How does HD look?

HD looks fine when receiving a true HD signal. Is there anyway of finding out when one is actually receiving the full blown HD signal? Do certain channels always broadcast with true HD? I'm finding that even when the menu states HD before the program name that it does not always show up in wide screen format.Is that normal?

HD preview channel, and almost always TMN HD.