Yes. You can just take the two cables and run them into your 9200. Of course if you also want to hook up your 3100 and 6000 you will need an SW44 switch.

The only reason I didn't give a resounding "yes" macsat; what if he has the connection for the 6000 running through a SW-21, and the connection for the 3100 running right off the 91 LNB?

That could cause problems on the 9200.

I'm not sure what switch I had (the installer made the changes).. i'm assuming it was the standard switch at the time that was used to address the additional satellite... at this time I'm not planning on plugging in the 3100 or 6000 on any other tv sets (i only own one), so both feeds would be for the same set... thanks for your responses!

I'm not sure what switch I had (the installer made the changes).. i'm assuming it was the standard switch at the time that was used to address the additional satellite...

There is no such thing as a "standard switch." There are several different switches out there designed for different needs.

The easy way to find out; go to the aiming screen (Menu-6-1-1) and run a "check switch" on your 6000. It should show you 91 odd & even, as well as 82 odd & even. Then run the same check switch on your 3100.

If you get the same resluts for 82 and 91, the yes you can just do the swap. If you get 91 only, or "no switch detected" then you will need some modifications to your system to be able to use the 9200. All the hardware you will need will be in your 9200 package; just a few more cables needed.

I already have a dish mounted for my 6100 (installed by Bell).

If I upgrade to the 9200 do I have to replace or realign the dish? Is the 9200 dish any different?

In other words, will I be climbing up and down the ladder all week?


rayneman68

The dish won't have to be re-aimed. But if your 6100 is connected using an SW-21 switch, you will need a couple of extra lines to go into the SW44 that comes with the 9200 package.

might be just option #4 in hook up, thats what mine was. No other runs needed besides adding one to the actual reciever.(first page of post)

Can't seem to lock onto 82 for some reason. 91 comes in around 90-95 %. Tryed rotating and no luck . Any help is appreciated.

Hi Slovak. This thread has become huge, so I wouldn't have expected it you to find it, but we talked about this starting with post #296. Many times the problem is you are hitting the 91 bird with the 82 LNB, leaving the 91 LNB pointing at 100; where there is nothing.

But to give you a perception of how close they are; let's look at it this way. they are 9 degrees apart. Now, we know that 90 degrees is 1/4 of a circle, so effectively moving a dish from south to east. so 9 degrees is 1/10th of that. Not very much when moving the dish.

Hope that helps!

Can't seem to lock onto 82 for some reason. 91 comes in around 90-95 %. Tryed rotating and no luck . Any help is appreciated.
Same situation. I've given up... looking for a pro to find it for me. :(

This thread is so large that I couldn't really find the info I was looking for. I thought I had read it somewhere, but can't seem to find it. So my question is this. Does the DPP Separator have to be close to the receiver or can it be say 2-3ft away.


Thanks,
Chevy :D

This thread is so large that I couldn't really find the info I was looking for. I thought I had read it somewhere, but can't seem to find it. So my question is this. Does the DPP Separator have to be close to the receiver or can it be say 2-3ft away.


Thanks,
Chevy :D

mine is about 5-6 ft away. In theory there should be no difference if it is 50 ft away.

mine is about 5-6 ft away. In theory there should be no difference if it is 50 ft away.

Well I thought it might contribute to signal loss if the separator was quite a distance away. I have mine about 3ft away and I was getting signal loss on 82.... but a quick skew adjustment and all seems fine now. HD is awesome!!

Cheers,
Chevy

Hi, I'm about to replace my dish (single lnb) with the new dish for the 9200. My old manual has my elavation listed as 24.1 deg. The 9200 manual has elevation chart on Page I-53 that again shows St. John's at 24.1 deg, HOWEVER the look angle tables on Page I-51 shows St. John's at 26.1 deg - Which is correct ??

Question for Altaman,

I'm preparing to do a install like yours, with a dedicated 24" dish for sat 82, and the 20" dish that comes with the 9220 for sat 91.
Just wondering if you noticed much improvement on signal strength on 91 by switching the "Y" bracket, with a "I" bracket?

Cheers... Murph.

Question for Altaman,

Just wondering if you noticed much improvement on signal strength on 91 by switching the "Y" bracket, with a "I" bracket?

Cheers... Murph.

Actually the inprovement came on 82 (average of 5% across the board increase, 91 had 0 improvement except for TP32 which when from 69 to 77 and TP 11 was at and stayed at 93%.

Alt

Embarassing Question But..........

I've FINALLY got an installer booked for my install of my 9200 which will include upgrading my dish to the 20" one, adding a DPP Twin LNBF, etc. etc..

Now the weather forecast for tomorrow calls for rain all day 5-10 mm (which doesn't sound like much...).

I'm not positive the installer will do installs during inclement weather, or will he automatically just reschedule for another date? Before you ask, the install is through Bell, and they won't give me installer's contact information.

I'll be real P***D if the install has to be rescheduled, in my neck of the woods that could mean a minimum of 2-3 weeks!

In your experiences, do installers do installs in rainy weather? (of course..I'm not talking about thunderstorms, windstorms,etc).

Thanks!

FortMacDude

I would say it depends on how high up on a ladder you are sending the guy. I installed my dish to my deck during a severe storm in June. I did that on purpose because I wanted to see what kind of signal I'd get in heavy rain.

Installation Update....

:D ....Success !

The rain broke for the 2 hours that the installer (a great local independent guy) was here.

The DPP Dual LNB and DPP Seperator installed without a hitch (even though I'm positive I have only RG59 in the walls of my old house!).

I only needed the 9200 installed, no other receivers.

The installer seemed impressed that I have about 67% signal on Sat 82, and 90% on Sat 91. He mentioned that was good for High Def in my area...I was kind of hoping for better on 82 for sure....but we did try a few times to get both satellites as strong as possible...and had to settle for the above settings.

After the long software download, and the activation call, I finally tuned into CBS-HD of the PGA Championship, ...using the PIP Swap...I swapped between that and the standard def TSN broadcast..... :o !!

The difference on my set (Hitachi 57F500..using HDMI-DVI cable) that upconverts all incoming to 1080i anyway,,wasn't night and day..but the colors of the greens/fairways and the sharpness and clarity in the crowd shots really jumped out at me!

As you all have said, once you go Hi Def..you don't go BACK !

Btw..for TV2..I'm sending the signal via a wireless A/V sender. Works like a charm!...well..cept it shares the same frequency as the microwave...grrrr...

Any whoo....thanks for all of you who have given me advice that last few months on the 9200 and the install...!

FortMacDude

Can't seem to lock onto 82 for some reason. 91 comes in ...

I had trouble finding 82 too. I had swapped my old dish setup with the new one that came with the 9200. I coiuld easily get 91 but no luck on 82. After reading through all the messages on this thread along with some trial and error, I came to the following conclusions:
1) I needed to mount my dish higher up (someone noted 82 is lower on the horizon).
2) I had a bad LNBF (I swapped the new one with my working 5100 LNBF)

My 5100 dish was mounted on my wall about 8 feet off the ground. I always had great signal and no problems. I moved the dish up to the second floor level so it is now about 18 feet up with a much better line of sight. After that I easily found 91, did a Check Switch and voila I had 82 as well. Bell is shipping me a replacement LNBF for the one that was bad.

There were a few things that weren't obvious from the manuals, messages, or that I simply didn't read right. Maybe it will help someone else to summarise:
- the two LNBFs are interchangeable. They can do either 91 or 82.
- there is no point in doing a check switch if you don't have a signal first.
- you should be able to point to either of 91 or 82 with only one of the LNBFs working/installed.
- if you cover one LNBF with your hand it is enough to block the signal for troubleshooting.
- the skew setting is not very sensitive. You can rotate the skew several degrees either way and still not lose signal on 91. 82 is a bit more sensitive.
- the signal on 82 is around 20% less than 91's signal.
- 82 is apparently lower on the horizon than 91 so I needed a better sight line.
- the whole switch setup seemed quite robust. I read one of the messages that said you had to do things in a precise order. I didn't have that problem.
- I mounted my SW44 switch outside to make grounding simpler. There is some debate over conflicting instructions between manuals over indoors versus outdoors. I guess I'll find out later if this is a problem.

Hope this helps someone else.