: 9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101
NormL 2005-07-25, 06:53 PM I bought my 9200 last Saturday and connected it through the DPP Twin LNB and separator that I bought on E-bay a few weeks ago.
Everything went well and I've got a strong signal and the 9200 is working flawlessly.
This morning it was time to connect my 6000 in my home theater and it also passed the check switch and works fine.
So the 6000 does work with the DishPro Plus Twin LNB and seperator.
I was a bit worried when I read some messages mentioning that the 6000 would not work with the DPP Twin.
Not sure if you are saying this but the other thing you could probably get away with (worked on my 9200) is to just use the mast that is already in place. With mine I just loosened the bolts and slipped the old antannae off and then slipped put the new one on. Avoided having to drill a whole bunch more holes into my roof...
Thats my plan. I think im all set for tuesday install. I just need to track down a compass to make sure im pointing in right direction. :rolleyes:
ISo the 6000 does work with the DishPro Plus Twin LNB and seperator.
I am assuming that you meant just a DPP twin.
Option #2- Installing the 9200 using a Quad LNB
This is probably the easiest way for most people who have other Bell receivers; and are able to do multiple cable runs. Basically the Quad LNB has 4 outputs on it. 2 of the outputs need to run to the 9200, and the other 2 can run into 2 receivers.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/ken0042/Quad_LNB.jpg
Option#3- Using an SW44
Once again, this method is pretty easy. As well, this method will be supported by Bell as it is using hardware that Bell sell. In fact, this uses the hardware included in the 9220 package. Previous methods used Dish Network (Echostar) hardware.
The 9220 package will come with 2 Dual LNB's. You take the 4 outputs from those LNB's and with 4 cable runs, connect them into the switch. You then take the 2 of the outputs of the switch, run them to the 9200 receiver. Once again you can use the remaining 2 connections to connect to up to 2 more Bell receivers.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/ken0042/9200_sw44.jpg
I'm not understanding the difference between these two solutions. I bought the 9200 package for existing customers and have the sw44 but not sure if I have to use it or even WHY i would need to use it.
Coould someone pls help me out?
Thanks
Orpo
The second picture is not showing use of a separator.
The DPP44 switch will alllow 4 receivers. Doesn't matter if they are dual if you have separators.
A SW44 switch will only allow 4 lines out. If you have 2 dual receivers......then that's all 4 lines.
Diamond 2005-07-26, 02:59 PM I'm not understanding the difference between these two solutions.
I never even thought of removing the SW44 but you are right, do we even need this? I know the SW44 slows switching of channels so maybe if you run all four wires, you don't really even need this?? What would happen when you run a switch test without a switch in place?
ken0042 2005-07-26, 03:03 PM I never even thought of removing the SW44 but you are right, do we even need this?
Diamond, what if you wanted to watch something on Tuner 1 on Sat 91 TP 18 and record something on Tuner 2 on Sat 91 TP 19?
That's why you need the switch. What you are suggesting would somewhat feaseable if you always use one tuner for HD and always use the other for SD.
Diamond 2005-07-26, 03:13 PM Good point, never thought of that. I also have a 6100 hooked to the switch so I need it in order to pick up both SAT's.
Has anyone been successful in using two dishes to pick up 91 and 82? I have a 30 inch dish and would like to use it for 82.
Sorry the pic said DP plus but the example is actually stating a SW44.
There is no big difference between a quad and SW44.
There are small differences though. Some people like having access to the SW44 so they can move things around. With the quad you may have to go on a ladder to change wires around.
I used a legacy quad before my current setup and it worked with no issues.
That's why you need the switch. What you are suggesting would somewhat feaseable if you always use one tuner for HD and always use the other for SD.
Well, your photo of the SW44 switch got me to thinking because with the arrival of the 9200 I had a surplus receiver I could move to one of the bedrooms; however, I know for a fact that the coax cable worked when I had cable years ago, but I wasn't getting a signal after I went through the install of the 3100 receiver.
Now I find that the SW44 switch that was installed by BEV in April 2003 has no other connections other than the 4 IN and 4 OUT, whereas your photo shows the power inverter connected to a third side. The BEV installer has connected the power inverter to one of the OUT connections, and then connected the (bedroom) cable to the other side of the power inverter. Is this the reason why I am not getting a video signal in the bedroom, and why does my SW44 switch differ from the one you depicted ?
Diamond 2005-07-26, 04:47 PM I'm not sure why you don't have a power source on your old switch but yes the new one that came with the 9200 requires the power connection to Output #1 on the SW44 and the cable run to the receiver does connect to the opposite side of the power convertor.
ken0042 2005-07-26, 05:05 PM I should maybe change the picture. (I can't see it right now at work though.) Sorry for the confusion, guys.
NormL 2005-07-26, 06:59 PM Original quote by joedoe:
"I am assuming that you meant just a DPP twin."
joedoe, actually, no, I've got the separator connected as well because the cable was no longer able to reach the receiver. But I've only got one cable coming out of the separator, so it may work like an uninterupted cable from the DPP, with the signal not being split.
But I'm just happy the 6000 works.
ken0042 2005-07-26, 08:18 PM There, I changed the pic on Option#3. I hope that clears things up.
The only thing, the inputs are on the opposite sides of the SW44; or at least the one I have is reversed.
jeeps17 2005-07-26, 08:22 PM A quick question to those with 9200s...
Does anyone have a SW44 installed outside their house, exposed to the elements (near or on the antenna support, for example)?
I currently have two SW21s, but would like the convenience of the additional outputs the SW44 provides. However, in my great wisdom, I had my new house built with only three wires coming in from the dish (this was before I heard about the 9200, I thought I was overkilling...).
The wife is not too thrilled about having a wire going down the lenght of the house, so I am trying to find alternate solutions...
Thanks in advance,
Jeeps
I'm not sure why you don't have a power source on your old switch but yes the new one that came with the 9200 requires the power connection to Output #1 on the SW44 and the cable run to the receiver does connect to the opposite side of the power convertor.
My "old" SW44 switch is exactly the same as the SW44 that came with the 9200 in every detail. I wonder who in their wisdom saw fit to change the configuration of the SW44. Somehow that power inverter coupled with a line OUT just doesn't look right to me. The separate coupling on the SW44 for the power inverter does.
I'm having a heck of a time getting my 9200 up and running %100.
As it stands, I'm receiving signal on only ODD transponders and none on even. So, that means I'm missing many channels. :(
I have a few questions:
1. I'm only using the 9200 in my house. No other receivers. Do I have to run all 4 cables into my house and connect them to the sw44 or will 2 sufice?
2. The "test" switch returns errors. On details it says that missing signal from Sat91 Even. I think that all my wiring is correct but... an ideas?
I have 2 cables running into Sat 1a & 1b only and then the power on connection 1 then to sat 1 on 9200 and output 2 to sat2 on 9200.
It basically looks like Option #3 but with only 2 inputs from the sat.
Pls help. I'd hate to have to call a Pro to fix some minor issue and cost me $$$
Thanks guys.
ken0042 2005-07-27, 09:19 AM I currently have two SW21s, but would like the convenience of the additional outputs the SW44 provides. However, in my great wisdom, I had my new house built with only three wires coming in from the dish (this was before I heard about the 9200, I thought I was overkilling...)
I would buy a Dish Pro Plus Twin LNB, and then run those 2 lines into your house. The get a DPP44 switch (not to be confused with an SW44.) Run the 2 lines from the Twin into the DPP44, and then you will have 4 outputs on the switch. If you also use a seperator, you can use one line to your 9200, leaving 3 lines free still.
Hope that helps.
Orpo,
yes I think you need 2 lines from each lnb into the SW44.
If you have this setup and are getting errors I would look at the copper leads and make sure they are long.
If you only want 2 wires going into the house I would agree with Ken. If however you only have the 9200 I would not recommend getting the DPP44 switch as it will cost you well over $100 and you don't need it. You can get a DPP twin with a separator off ebay for around $50 CDN final cost.
Hope that helps.
Orpo,
yes I think you need 2 lines from each lnb into the SW44.
If you have this setup and are getting errors I would look at the copper leads and make sure they are long.
If you only want 2 wires going into the house I would agree with Ken. If however you only have the 9200 I would not recommend getting the DPP44 switch as it will cost you well over $100 and you don't need it. You can get a DPP twin with a separator off ebay for around $50 CDN final cost.
Hope that helps.
Thanks joedoe.
So in order to make the 9200 work with the sw44 switch I NEED to have 4 RG6 cables from my dish to the 4 inputs in the sw44? Even if I'm only using 2 outputs for my only receiver (9200)?
Wow, I did not read that anywhere in their documentation. :confused:
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