: 9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101



Diamond
2005-07-14, 10:12 AM
Alt, I only had input 1 hooked up the first night and everything worked fine (except things like PIP of course).

Q
2005-07-14, 10:20 AM
Alt, I only had input 1 hooked up the first night and everything worked fine (except things like PIP of course).


It may work but I don't think it was designed to work that way and you may encounter problems.

Treebeard
2005-07-14, 11:00 AM
I currently have a 3100 and 6000. The 9200 will replace the 6000. So if I use a dpp and a seperator I should be able to use both the 3100 and 9200 with only two cables running into the house. Correct?


You got it!

CSKA
2005-07-14, 01:55 PM
The information I got from this thread is invaluable – tanks a lot to everyone contributed.
I have the following question:
I currently have 3100 and one cable going into my house. I want to replace it with 9200 which I got yesterday and I want to use Example # 1.
I’ve already ordered Twin LNB $39 and separator $10 US from Dishstore.net (by the way they refuse to ship via Canada Post because of lost packages in the past, so the only option was Canada Standard - around $15 US). They should arrive in a week.
Can I temporarily connect 9200 using 2 LNBs provided by Bell and temporary additional cable, setup the receiver, and then when I get twin and separator, just replace the existing dual LNB with the Twin and use only one cable and separator? If I do this, it won’t confuse the receiver, right?

Diamond
2005-07-14, 02:47 PM
It may work but I don't think it was designed to work that way and you may encounter problems.
I understand that and have already hooked up the second line but it did work as a single input receiver. The only thing that didn't seem to work was the PIP.

ken0042
2005-07-14, 02:51 PM
Can I temporarily connect 9200 using 2 LNBs provided by Bell and temporary additional cable, setup the receiver, and then when I get twin and separator, just replace the existing dual LNB with the Twin and use only one cable and separator? If I do this, it won’t confuse the receiver, right?

Yes, but when your DPP Twin arrives, disconnect your old setup, and run a "check switch" with nothing connected. Then connect the DPP Twin and the seperator and check switch again.

The check switch is what keeps the receiver from becoming "confused."

fastfall
2005-07-14, 04:15 PM
Hi folks - I'm new here - and would like to thank you all for your input to these forums! It rocks. :D

I thought I had the installation thing all worked out until I saw the pictures of what Bell is including with the 92xx packages. That link is here:
http://digitalhomecanada.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27339

Up untill now, I thought there would be a pair of dual LNBs for a total of 4 feeds going to the sw44 switch - or at least thats what the diagram showed at the beginning of this thread.

1) Why is there only one LNB? Now there will only be 2 feeds going to the sw44.
2) Doesn't having only one LNB mean you can only see one of the 2 satellites? Does this even matter?
3) Does this mean I must keep my existing dish and dual LNB, and set up an entirely new dish and dual LNB? Right now, I have a single dish (I think its a 16", feeding a 2700 and a 5100).
4) If 3 is incorrect - do I have to buy a DPP LNB with the quad outputs on it? I'd rather not buy anything more than what Bell ships if possible. They can be really difficult when you make a service call and they find out you are using unsporrted equipment.

Thanks for your help folks!

Q
2005-07-14, 04:29 PM
I got a dual lnb and then also got a installation box with a dish and presumably another dual lnb in there as well. I didn't open that box but there should be one in there.

Diamond
2005-07-14, 04:36 PM
Joe is correct. The kit comes with a dual LNB and SW44 but in the dish box, there is also another dual LNB and the "Y" connector.

CSKA
2005-07-14, 04:59 PM
My 9200 package has 2 LNBs - one in the Dish box, and second one in the receiver box. You don't have to buy any additional equipment if you are ok to run 2 cables from the dish LNBs to the receiver.

ringmaster_2000
2005-07-14, 06:16 PM
Two satellites to pick up 91 and 82... need one eye for each SAT.


Edit: Sorry Alt... see you already had it covered.

sorry but what if i don't need the 2nd satellite? i don't need the 82....i don't watch international channels & i don't have HDTV

grider
2005-07-14, 06:37 PM
sorry but what if i don't need the 2nd satellite? i don't need the 82....i don't watch international channels & i don't have HDTV

You want to use a DP Plus seperator so you can use only a single cable from your dish. The DP Plus seperator is not compatible with the LNB that you have or the LNB's that come with the 9220. So to use a DP Plus seperator you need to use a DP Plus Twin.

fastfall
2005-07-14, 06:54 PM
Joe is correct. The kit comes with a dual LNB and SW44 but in the dish box, there is also another dual LNB and the "Y" connector.

Awsome, thanks guys! I guess those pictures didn't show the whole kit.

Now if only I could find one to buy ... :p

ringmaster_2000
2005-07-14, 07:58 PM
You want to use a DP Plus seperator so you can use only a single cable from your dish. The DP Plus seperator is not compatible with the LNB that you have or the LNB's that come with the 9220. So to use a DP Plus seperator you need to use a DP Plus Twin.

do u know what would be compatible with my LNB that I could use then?

grider
2005-07-14, 08:16 PM
do u know what would be compatible with my LNB that I could use then?

The only way to use your legacy LNB's is to run two cables down from the dish. If you want to stick with a single cable you need to use the DPP equipment.

Fox422
2005-07-14, 11:45 PM
Got my 9200 today and I found sat 91 in a minute (85%) But I can't get sat 82 I have a wrong sat message (91). So if I understand I'm picking Sat 91 with my 2 lnb ? I tried to Skew a lot... Nothing. I used Option#3- Using an SW44 (at the begining of this thread.

Someone has an idea ?

Altaman
2005-07-14, 11:59 PM
I think this is the best thread to post as it does relate to 9200 installation.

An idea came up on another thread inadvertantly concerning the aspect of having two physical dishes, one pointed at 91 and the other pointed at 82. Now I currently have a DPP-Twin attached to a 20" dish that feeds into a DPP44 pointed at 91/82 and I also have an 18" sitting on the side of the house doing nothing.

So the thought here is what would happen if a person took the the 21" and pointed it at 82 only with the DPP-Twin and hooked a DP-Dual up to the 18" and pointed that at 91? The thought here being that you get a stronger signal pointing the dish at an individual satellite than setting to pick up both and still make use of the single cable solution to the 9200. Will this work, well there has been no solid answer one way or the other.

So I have ordered two DP-Dual LNB's and will be testing once they arrive. If it works I will have the second as a backup in case an LNB goes bad, if it does not, then I can just hook up the DP-Dual and have the DPP-twin as a backup.

Anyways, once I get it I will post the results of my findings. Good thing BEV released the 9200 in summer, allows a fella to do some testing :)

Alt

Pickle
2005-07-15, 12:20 AM
Hi.

I'm planning on using a 2 wire, 2 reciever route, since that is what I already have. I have an existing 60cm dish with a regular dual LNB going to 2 seperate 3100s. I'm sure that a lot of users have an identical, or very similar setup as well, so this should help a lot of people...

Now, I want to replace one of those 3100s with a 9200 (Which I already have! :D )

So, my plan is:
Step 1:
- Replace the old LNB with a DishPro Plus dual LNB. I will need to add the Y adapter.
- Hook up the same, old existing wires for the existing 3100s.

Questions that need verification: :confused:
1) At this point I should have 2 working 3100s, Right?
2) I should not need a DPP splitter for a single 3100, even though the feed is from a DPP LNB, Right?
3) I should have no problem using the existing 60cm Dish, right? (The one in the kit is smaller!)
4) Since I am only replacing an already working LNB (and not the dish) that is already pointing at Sat 91 with a strength of 95+, I should not need to adjust the dish alignment, right? It should by plug and play, with Sat 82 lining up naturally, or am I wrong?

Step 2:
- Replace one 3100 with a 9200.
- Use a DishPro Plus splitter to split the single cable into the 2 inputs of the 9200.

More Questions that need verification: :confused:
5) Now, I should have a working 3100 and a working 9200, Right?
6) I will not need any other switches, splitters or other hardware, correct?

In the end, I did very little modification to my existing installation. I simply replaced my existing LNB with a DPP dual, and I used a single DPP splitter on the 9200 end of one of the cables to feed both inputs of the 9200. :cool:

If I understand everything I read in this thread correctly, no wiring, dish adjustments, or other fussing around should be needed.

Please let all us "standard" setup users know if this upgrade is as easy as it seems.

Thanks!

Q
2005-07-15, 12:38 AM
Pickle,

Everything is correct but I have no idea about the bigger dish. With the 20" dish you have to rotate it to get the correct skew angle.

Also keep in mind you need to use all RG-6 wire.

Joe

Q
2005-07-15, 12:39 AM
I'd like an update Alt.

Joe