Hi Guys,

Have any of you tried a Samsung dvd transport 84 series somthing (upconverts from DVI) and happens to be both a dvd-a & sacd transport with a Daytek LCD.

If you have had success scaling to 1080i would you please share.

I'm beginning to think that the Daytek may not be hdcp compliant.

Peter M.
PS: I'm asking for a freind

FYI -

The Daytek D4040 can be forced into the native 1366x768 resolution from your computer (via DVI) if you try. When I hooked up my macbook pro with a DVI cable, it was stuck on 1280x760 ish which left the picture blurry.

I used a tool on the mac called "SwitchRes X" which allowed me to define a custom resolution for 1366x768. I haven't tried this on a PC, but I'm sure that if you have an ATI or Nvidia graphics card, you can also force the resolution using their control panels.

The picture on the TV through my computer is stunning, crisp and clear. I'm not sure why Daytek would not let it show 1366x768 via DVI by default?

Cheers, Andy.

I bought the Daytek 40" LCD DT4040 from Costco in Jan 2006 and am very pleased with it. Picture quality on Rogers HD is excellent in my opinion. Maybe there are better LCD TV's out there but you can't beat the price/value of this one. I would have no concerns about buying another Daytek again. :p

Hello All,

I'm interested in purchasing the Daytek DT-4040, but I'm a little confused when I visit the Costco.ca website versus the Daytek.ca site.

I have read in some forums that you are better off getting an LCD that can do 16.7million colors versus one that has 16.2million colors (why, I'm not sure). When I reviewed the Daytek website, on the DT-4040 product page it indicates 16.7M, yet when I click on the Specifications button towards the bottom of the page, the specs say 16.2M. Can someone who owns this model clear up whether or not it has 16.7M or 16.2M colors?

The other thing that I noticed between the Costco site and Daytek's is that the AV connections seem to be slightly different.
Daytek lists them as follows:
INPUT / OUTPUT
4 X Composite A/V Input
1 X Composite A/V Output
2 X S-Video
2 X Component Video Input (Y, Pb, Pr)
1 X DVI
1 X PC (15 Pin D-Sub)

Costco lists them as follows:
AV connections:
1 x DVI-HDCP input (DVI to HDMI adapter included)
1 x 15-pin D-Sub input
2 x component video inputs (Y, Pb, Pr)
2 x S-Video inputs
2 x composite video inputs
1 x NTSC TV tuner
1 x composite video output
4 x L/R audio inputs (RCA)
1 x L/R audio output (RCA)

Which one is correct? I know that they are both pretty much the same as far as listing the connections, however Daytek says 4 x Composite A/V Input, but Costco says only 2 x composite video inputs. Again, if someone who owns a DT-4040 can comment on what is actually on the unit as far as all of the connections, I would appreciate it.

Lastly, I know that Daytek has the DT-4640 46" LCD as the next model above the DT-4040, but I'm wondering what qualifies an $1100 price increase (on the Costco website) for jumping from 40" to 46" and having a DCDi Faroudja I/P? Is this Faroudja thing really worth it along with the extra 6"?

At this point the unit will be used mainly for standard cable TV watching, Xbox 360 game playing, and some DVD movie watching. In the future I will be upgrading to HD channels, but I think I need to get Satellite to do that, don't I?

Thanks in advance for all your help!

I saw the below at Costco just recently for $2000. Does anyone have any experience with this unit? I think it's the first Daytek HD plasma model; I know they had the ED model for some time. I'm particularly worried about burn-in as this would be my prime video-gaming tv.


Daytek EPT-4211AN
42" HD PDP (Plasma Display Panel) TV
HD Ready
Internal built-in TV Tuner (NTSC)
ISM (Image Sticking Minimization) Technology
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (Widescreen)
Brightness: 1,000 cd/m^2
Contrast: 5,000:1
3D comb filter
WOW SRS Surround Sound
16.8M Color
1,024(H) x 768(V) Pixels
Viewing Angle: 160 degrees

I'm interested in this set aswell....anyone have anymore input?

If you feed it 16777216 colors (RGB 24 bit, YCbCr) it will have to reduce the colors to 16.2 million for display. If the resampling is good you won't notice a difference. If it is poorly implemented then you might start to see color shift or stepping. For example Floyd-Steinberg dithering is just one example of a dithering algorithm used to reduce the number of colors in an image.

As to the connections. Daytek has grouped the composite video and audio inputs together while Costco has kept them separate. Same thing for the output. They are the same. Note: On my Daytek 26" LCD, video-3 have both composite and component jacks. However only one can be active. You must go into the SETUP and select the input you want to use. Not the same as toggling through Video-1, Video-2, etc.

Hello All,

At this point the unit will be used mainly for standard cable TV watching, Xbox 360 game playing, and some DVD movie watching. In the future I will be upgrading to HD channels, but I think I need to get Satellite to do that, don't I?



Depending where you are located, you could get some HD station "over the air" OTA. Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver all get either CTV HD and or CBC HD for free over the air. Also depending on how close you are to the US, our neighbours to the south, you could also pick up lots of their HD stations. All you would need is a ASTC tuner eithe inside the TV or set to box (Samsum T451), and a good antenna, hopefully external.

Lots of people in this conference have this setup and are all enjoying free HD via OTA.

Good luck
M

I am looking at the coupon in the costco canada coupon book for a daytek 46 in hd lcd tv. There is no model number on it and it is not shown on the web page. Anyone have the same book and recognize the model? It's a $400.00 coupon, nice chunk of change IF the TV is an allright model....:confused:
thanks!

It's the 4660 and is in-store now. Apparently, you can buy it now, so long as it's within 30-days of the actual coupon period and have it applied (or get a price adjustment when the coupon actually takes effect).

Curiously, costco.ca has the 4640 model showing at $100 more than the 4660 instore (presumably for the S&H?).

It's the 4660 and is in-store now. Apparently, you can buy it now, so long as it's within 30-days of the actual coupon period and have it applied (or get a price adjustment when the coupon actually takes effect).

Curiously, costco.ca has the 4640 model showing at $100 more than the 4660instore (presumably for the S&H?).

Now a 300$ diff -- so the better tv is cheaper -- Hdmi vs dvi with adapter - no big deal there. but the 60 has a better contrast rating -- at least thats what they say --!!

I'm thinking this tv is same display panel -- they have just remodled it with the case -- slight change in the inputs -- and manufactuers are always bending the truth on the contrast and brightness.

May the pricing Gods show us mercy!
Patrick

Hello All,
Lastly, I know that Daytek has the DT-4640 46" LCD as the next model above the DT-4040, but I'm wondering what qualifies an $1100 price increase (on the Costco website) for jumping from 40" to 46" and having a DCDi Faroudja I/P? Is this Faroudja thing really worth it along with the extra 6"?
Thanks in advance for all your help!

I would pay 1000 more for an extra 6 inchs -- I digress!!
The Faroudja video processors have one of the best quality rep in the industry. I have personally only read good things about them. I would definetly expect to see a higher price with there processor in it.

If anyone has heard of someone making a better processors that would be interesting to hear.

May the pricing Gods show us mercy!
Patrick

I have heard great things about these guys as well -- but it is an external component to put inline from your source. I have not heard of them being incorperated by major manufacturers -- but I do lead a sheltered life :o

May the pricing Gods show us mercy!
Patrick

Hi,

Thr Farouudja chip is a video scaling chip which turns 1080i to to80p or progressive.

The whole world is going HDMI. Just makesure its the latest version, (check don't trust the salesman)

The DVI input was pretty good but didn't carry audio. So if you want the hirez audio from HD-DVD or BLU-RAY, HDMI guarantees the best of everything. Many dvd players that upconvert from HDMI do not work well with a dvi-hdmi plug.

The only frustration with DAYTEK is that youcan't have it ISF calibrated because DAYTEK (To my knowledge) has yet to provide the coses that ISZF'rs need to get into the service menue & properly do the Greyscale.

If anyone of you have had your set ISF calibrated would you please pass along the name and phone # of your calibrator.

Thanks,

Peter M.

The statement about getting what you pay for does not apply in the same way it use to. Especially with electronics.

You have to remember that the larger manufactures (Sony, Toshiba) spend a large amount of money on advertisement and product placement (Samsung was all over fantastic four). How many daytek commericals have you seen? The dollar figures advertising are probably in the 100's of millions and the consumer is the one who pays the tab. The same can not be said for daytek or others such brands. If you go to some electronic stores you will notice that the big guys all have their own displays with their names all over it. Take a look at the Sony store, that is primarily a large store front ad that just happens to sell products. Also, a lot of the major player do a lot of their own R&D while other companies such as Daytek and others may not which accounts for pricing as well.

At the end of the day Advertising, Promotion, distribution, and name recognition accout for a minimum of 15% of the price between the large players and guys like daytek. That is even before you start comparing componets within the actual unit itself.

Know this that Dayteck at Costco is a safe buy because of the return policy. You have up to 6 months to return it with no questions asked. In some cases up to a year, but I wouldn`t push it past a month or two. So buy and try, if you do not like return it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The reformed bad boy!!!!

The main thing here is if you choose a less know product name where the quality is unknown you should get it from a reputable retailer in that way you can always return it.

Know this that Dayteck at Costco is a safe buy because of the return policy. You have up to 6 months to return it with no questions asked. In some cases up to a year, but I wouldn`t push it past a month or two. So buy and try, if you do not like return it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The reformed bad boy!!!!

Why do you say that? I shop at Costco all the time - almost exclusively for electronics now, because of their return policy - and as far as I'm aware, only computers have a 6 month return limit (still better than any other retailer out there). As for TVs, I don't think there is a return limit. Only what your personal guilt will allow. :p

Hi,

I know a guy who must be absolutely sold on Daytek.

Every 363 days he trades up about 10" at Costco.

Next mnth his screen size will be a Daytek around 50".

It wouldn't suprise me at all that Costco has a very profitable secondary market. However, if you buy an "OPEN BOX" 30" or 40" Daytek it could very easilly have been on for 24hrs a day for the last year.

Don't think of your family's CRT tv that lasted for 20 yrs. Or the crt HD ready we early adopters got from 2000 to 2003 and is still good (with ISF convergence tuneups) for 12 to 14 yrs, as a comparison to these Dayteks.

If you want to use the phrse "you get what you pay for" use it as it pertains to the technology. These LCD Dayteks propably will serve you well for about the same time as any other LCD.\

It wouldn't suprise me to find out that, regardless of name theres only about 4 companies that make all of them.

Peter M.
PS: Has anyone ever tried to have one ISF Calibrated??

I purchased the Dayteck DT-4040 at Costco on April 15, 2006 for $ 2099.99. I just noticed yesterday that this model has dropped to $ 1699.99 without a coupon.

Would Costco allow me to return it and give me my money back? I would then purchase one for $1699.99 if they had any left. Don't feel at all guilty.

Most likely, just tell them you are not happy with the T.V