I've looked through this complete thread because I think I read somewhere that someone else had this problem.

If I program something for the middle of the night the TV comes on when the recording starts.

Don't want to scare the burglars. Is there a solution to this quirk. I haven't stayed up long enough to see if the TV goes off but it is never on in the morning.

Is your TV plugged into the outlet on the back of the 6412?

If so, you probably have it set to be a "switched" outlet (powers on when the 6412 is on and off when the 6412 is off). I'm assuming your TV turns on when it is first powered up. You can change the outlet to "unswitched" in Menu/Setup/Cable Box Setup and then it will stay powered all the time. Or just plug the TV directly into an AC outlet.

If I program something for the middle of the night the TV comes on when the recording starts.


I think this thread has the info you want:
http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/forum/showthread.php?p=165881#post165881

Basically, some TVs have an "auto-detect" feature that will turn the TV on if there is an active input. Its a convenience feature so that you can just turn on the DVD player, game console, etc. and the TV will turn on automatically. If this is the problem, there should be a way to turn it off through the TV menus or by using a different input.

I had this problem with 6208 and I still have the problem with 6412. While watching a program that is not intended for children (8 or younger) the recorded program will ask me for the code when I start watching it, as I think it should. However, the box appears to ask me for the same code at the top and bottom of the hour. While I put the code in, the recorded program keeps playing and I need to back up by 30 seconds. This is clearly a bug. Is there a work-around it? Getting rid of the parental codes is not an option for me.

beanagee1, I think I asked you this when you posted about the 6208 but I don't recall if you responded... I wonder if it might be prompting you, not because of the recording you are watching, but because there is a program starting on one of the background tuners that requires a parental code.

You might be able to verify this by setting both tuners to a childrens channel first before starting to watch the recording, and see if you still get prompted or not.

technut:

I think you are correct that it is asking for the code because there is a "non children's programming" on the background channel. I had suspected that is the case. I will watch a recorded program that is "adult" oriented while that particular tuner is on a kid's channel. I will report back.

Either way this is an annoying bug.

[QUOTE=technut]Is your TV plugged into the outlet on the back of the 6412?

Yes this is the problem. So I turned on the unswitched feature and now I have to turn the digital box and TV on separately. It seems a bit prehistoric but you do what you gotta do.

I set CSI to record on my 6412 as a series (8pm to 9m) and it has been ok for 2 weeks already. But last night was weird, when I hit 'list' it showed 3 recorded CSIs of the same episode and date/time with different lenght of time the longest one being 160 mins and still going. It seems that the 2 tuners are recording the same show because when I hit 'swap' it keeps on saying 'rec' something on panel and also the current show it is recording is not CSI anymore. I have to do a series of on/off on/off until it stopped recording. Anyone?

Something strange happened to my 6412. It was off when I came home (not sure if my brother turned it off or not....he doesn't usually) I turn it on and now I notice under menu it says PVR, I'm sure it use to say DVR. So i enter into the PVR menu and my series recording selection is gone. What the hell. I go into future recordings and all the series recording i have set are still there and are marked with the special series recording marker.

Now just this moment the box sort of turned itself off and the clock went to 12:00 and my menu doesn't work at all. When I hit menu it says "this feature is being restored and will be available shortly, thanks for your patience.

Menu is now back but all my TV listings are gone...guess they have to download again which will take some time.

I'm still without my series recording selection.

Anybody else have this happen. And can somebody double check if it says DVR or PVR on your menu. Thanks.

Mine says Pvr now as well. I didn't have any series recordings set up so can't say about those.

I checked the firmware and software and it doesn't look like it's changed.

Mine says Pvr now as well. I didn't have any series recordings set up so can't say about those.

I checked the firmware and software and it doesn't look like it's changed.

Do you still have the series recording option available?

Mine changed as well. It now says PVR and the quick menu bar also has a new PVR icon (after the HD one).

Series recording is gone from the PVR menu, but it still on the actual record menu (when you select a program from the i-guide to record, you still have the option of selecting series recordings).

Series recording is gone from the PVR menu, but it still on the actual record menu (when you select a program from the i-guide to record, you still have the option of selecting series recordings).

Same here, at least its available somehow, but I guess you can't change the priority of them anymore.

I have not been able to find any reliable information anywhere about the composite video input on the 6412.

Basically I've been asked by my wife to look into getting a PVR for recording from our satellite receiver (true FTA only by the way) as the quality of recording from it on our VCR looks pretty poor when displayed on a large screen HDTV (60") compared to the original signal. As we would be getting a High-def STB sometime before the end of the year anyway (for 2006 Olympic coverage and World Cup - both "should" be in HDTV since they will be produced in it) we've decided to get a combined HD-PVR now but the caveat is that it must be able to record from non-cable sources.

So the issue is: Is the video input on the 6412 enabled and can you record from it? Has anyone with this unit tried to use it or can you confirm if it is enabled/disabled?

There is no composite input. The pvr is a cable only device. The only input is coaxial. Look to your sat provider as the only source for a recordable hd solution.

There is no composite input. The pvr is a cable only device. The only input is coaxial. Look to your sat provider as the only source for a recordable hd solution.
Well, the front connectors on the box are labelled input, but they're disabled.

Mark, you have two options... One would be to buy a DVD recorder as well as the HD PVR. That way you primarliy use the PVR, but on occasion you can permanently archive material to DVD for those things that you'd like to keep permanently. And of course, that would handle recording from your PVR as well as from the FTA system.

The other option is to wait until the HD DVD recorders come out; and maybe they'll have built-in tuners... Though that's a long shot, because I expect them to behave very similar to the D-VHS units, except that they'll record to an optical disc.

Thanks Felgar your response is appreciated.

It's funny how the Shaw produced box the 6412 comes in lists "video input" as one of the features. I didn't buy it though, I just looked at it in the store as, obviously, one can never trust marketing to be correct and I was finding very little info on this function. Based on the issues people have had with inputs and outputs (such as firewire, DVI, etc.) not being enabled in the past or being cable provider dependent on this kind of equipment, I thought I might be cautious.

Just as a side note, the Motorola 6412 brochure from their website also shows video inputs on the back.

Perhaps when I have some time to waste I'll give Shaw a call and see what they have to say about it. :rolleyes:

Now to research other options....

Yes this is the problem. So I turned on the unswitched feature and now I have to turn the digital box and TV on separately. It seems a bit prehistoric but you do what you gotta do.
If you program your remote (I have the Atlas, provided by Shaw) you can turn on the 6412 and your TV at the same time. You need to press the power button on the remote for about 2 seconds for this to work. Look in the remote user's manual towards the end (page 29) and it shows you how to turn up to 5 devices on/off automatically. I have programmed it to turn my TV and the 6412 on/off and it works fine, as long as I remember to press for 2 seconds. Mind you, I got the 6412 yesterday so I am not used to it yet!

If you program your remote (I have the Atlas, provided by Shaw) you can turn on the 6412 and your TV at the same time.

Yes I did program the two to come on when I pressed the remote power button. This led to the problem where the TV came on in the middle of the night if I programed anything on the 6412.

So far my best solution is to turn the TV off manually and separate the power from the 6412.

Yes I did program the two to come on when I pressed the remote power button. This led to the problem where the TV came on in the middle of the night if I programed anything on the 6412.This is weird as the Power on/off signal is only sent by the remote and should have nothing to do with the 6412 and its internal programming... Perhaps a coincidence?

I have a Samsung HDTV and did some experimentation with the PVR recording and the Master Power button (it is NOT plugged in the 6412 power outlet). The TV does not come-up when the programmed recording starts. However, once, I did not press the Master Power button long enough and only the 6412 turned off. The TV appeared OFF as well as the screen and sound totally blanked out. When the recording started the screen and sound became live again and it appeared as if the TV had been turned on. This is probably not what hapenned for you, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.