hi i am a tech for ev

for the 82 you need too have the swich 21 or sw44 in back of your antenna
select on the menue 6 1 1 and put your transp to 13 put your signal up to 85% for 91
after do a chex swicht .you cannot have de 82 if your not doing the chex swicht
.the connector his veri important for the 82 .for the swicht sw 44 you have the power convecter his connect to the first port ,and you need 4 cable to the lnb to the sw 44
sw 44 is the swicht for more than 2 recev , excuse my englis

the axe for the antenna 102

I have read the installation forum but I can't seem to find the answer I am looking for can anyone help. I am trying to get the signals for both the 91 and 82 on a 3100 receiver. I get the 91 strong at 100% on TP 11 and I also get 82 at 85% but I can't get them both at the same time. From the forums I read it seems like the adjustment is very slight once you get 91 but I can't ssem to get it. Any suggestions?

This is how I set up several satellites with no problems:

- Set up the skew angle to the desired setting (on the back of the dish, you should have two nuts that you can loosen and twist the dish to the skew angle setting indicated in your manual).
- Only use one LNB (91 degree) and ensure that you have it installed on the correct side of the y adapter.
- Tune into the 91 degree satellite (use transponder 11 for this) ... you should get very close to 100% strenght depending where you live.

Once the above is done, all you should have to do is install the second LNB and you should have the 82 bird. You may have to do a little fine tuning, but nothing major.

The most common error I have seen is thinking you are tuning into one satellite with the wrong LNB. By using only one LNB at a time and ensuring it is installed in the correct position, you should eliminate this potential problem.

I also strongly suggest marking each of your cables so that you know which cable is coming into your house from which LNB. You will need to know this when wiring your SW44.

I hope this helps. I have installed several systems this way and have never had any issues (unless there is an object in the way blocking the satellite signal). Good luck.

Kevin

Thank you I'll give it a try.

A more effective way is to make sure your mast/arm is level (the pole the dish sits on)
If it is level, then you should be able to use the skew/elevation settings for your city
If it is not level, then you have to guess ........
Aim for 91 first, and then peak it
Then check signal on 82, and peak it
Tighten the dish, install your switch, and run a check switch

Hello,

I tried the suggestions from expertech and kankt but this is what I'm getting at the Point Dish screen:

Tuner Input: 01
Transponder: 11
Satellite: 91

The message at the bottom reports:

"Wrong Sat - ExpressVu 82 Signal Strength: 67" (in red)

if I change the transponder to 13 and Satellite to 82, I get:

"Locked - Bell ExpressVu 82 Signal Strength:67" (in green)

When I go to the 'Check Switch' screen, it reports

Port: 1
Satellite: 82
Transponder: X (big white X on red background)
Status: Reception ERROR
Switch: None

When I go Details, it says,

"Satellite input 1
Missing: Port 1b Sat 82 Even"

I have two LNB's. One wire from each going into a SW21 and that feeds directly into my INPUT 1 on my 9200 receiver (only using 1 tuner).

Weird thing is, I can actually watch HD channels but not SD channels. I am assuming this is because it won't find the 91 Sat.

Before I added the second LNB, I was watching 91 Sat channels no problem on my 3100. Now it seems that I can either get 82 or 91 but not both.

I've adjusted the vertical angle and the skew but it seems like it only likes 82 or 91 but not both.

I think this is something to do with the switch (since it won't see it), I went out and bought another switch and tried that (above results are with the second switch). I put a multimeter against the switch and that reports everything is OK.

Is there something specific I need to do in order for it to see the switch (other than switch test)?

Any help would be gratefully received

Update ..

When I have the 91 LNB only connected to the switch and run a 'test switch', I get:

Port: 1 2
Satellite: 91 X
Transponder: OK X
Device: <blank>
Status: Reception Verified
Switch: SW21

When I click 'Details', I get:

"Missing: Port 2a Odd"
"Missing: Port 2b Even"

OK, so I assume this means that the switch is detected OK and so is Satellite 91. However, it's clearly having a problem getting the input from both LNB's.

If I reverse everything and hook up ONLY the LNB for 82, everything still checks out good, except switch says, "None" and I don't get the second column in the switch screen. I.e.

91 LNB connected:
Transponder: OK X

82 LNB connected:
Transponder: OK

Any thoughts?

I believe your dish is out of alignment.

I would remove the SW21 switch and run one wire directly from 91 lnb and maximize the signal with proper skew. Then disconnect from 91 and connect to 82 lnb and make sure that is all ok as well.

After that hook the SW21 switch back up and do check switch.

I agree with Q. To me, it sounds like your elevation is a bit low, so you will have to raise your dish slightly and move it to the left a bit to pick up the 91 satellite. Basically, you are picking up the 82 satellite with the 91 lnb.

Thanks Q and Kandkt,

After a LOT of trial and error, I finally got it working. The length of co-ax from my dish to my receiver was just too long (100ft). I put a multimeter at each end when I first bought it and it was coiled up and it barely registered any resistance so I thought I was good, but I guess once I fished it through joists, drywall and next to power cables & copper water pipes, it picked up too much interference.

Some background: My Dish is mounted on the side of the house, and the living room is on the opposite end of the house. As I mentioned in previous threads, I couldn't get the receiver to detect the SW21 switches and both satellites despite making numerous adjustments to elevation and skew.

After a couple of hours, I thought I'd try a shorter run of cable so I left the switches connected and the dish pointed where it was and ran two 15ft coax cables through our spare bedroom window and into my receiver. Used a small TV to perform a check switch and it immediately picked up both SW21's and both tuners picked up 82 & 91.

Therefore having confirmed that the length of the cable was the only 'fault' point, I decided to move the receiver so it would be closer.

Instead of having the receiver in the living room, I used a 2ft drill bit to drill through the house right under the dish and into my basement. This means the cable run from the SW21 to the receiver is now only 10ft :)

Once the 2 coax cables were fished through the wall and into the receiver, I did another test switch and again it picked up both SW21's and both satellites on each receiver.

This is my final setup in case someone is in a similar situation:


-20" ExpressVu Dish with 2 LNB's. Both LNB's are dual output. 1 output from each LNB goes into an SW21.
-Dish to Receiver cable length: 10ft. 1 SW21 runs to Tuner1 and the other SW21 runs to Tuner 2
-Tuner1 component out goes to Sony DLP LCD to get 1080i. Optical out from receiver plugs into Optical in on Yamaha AV receiver. Sony TV is around 2 feet from receiver.
-Tuner 2 composite out goes to Windows Media Center PC using a Hauppauge WinTV 150 composite in.0
-Windows Media Center stream wirelessly to Xbox360 in living room. Connected to a Sharp Aquos 42" LCD.
-Xbox360 in living room can't change the channel since the Microsoft IR blasters don't work on UHF so I use the UHF remote in living room to change channels

Ups: No huge runs of co-ax cable. Sony TV has Yahama 5.1 surround connected so movie experience is awesome.

Downs: Xbox360 is now upstairs.. no more surround sound gaming. Have to use UHF remote in living room which means 2-3 second delay when navigating guide.

If there's any questions, please feel free to respond here (if it's ontopic) or PM me (if it's off topic)

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Here's a pic of my TV confirming detected of both SW21s and satellites

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tomsmith,

Glad to see you got it working. Are you using RG-6? If your total run was 100ft. (from lnb to receiver) then you should have had no issues. Very odd.

Yep, I was using RG6 and then tried a spool of RG6-U (not sure what the difference is). Same problem with both types of cable.

The guy at the local hardware place mentioned that couplings (when connecting two coax cables together) were notorious for introducing interference so not sure if that played a part. The was only one coupling in the 100ft run though.

Not sure if I mentioned this earlier but I tried two boosters/amplifiers. The first one is an in-line Phillips brand passive 13db one that went right at the SW21 and the second was a RCA brand powered 10db that was closer to the receiver. Neither helped.

I believe your dish is out of alignment.

I would remove the SW21 switch and run one wire directly from 91 lnb and maximize the signal with proper skew. Then disconnect from 91 and connect to 82 lnb and make sure that is all ok as well.

After that hook the SW21 switch back up and do check switch.

Used this exact scenario- 91a signal 94%; 82a signal 80%. Make the Sw21 connection, run the switch check. Nothing, no signal on either :confused:.
As stated, individually bypassing Sw21 good signal, good picture.

What did catch my attention was when connected direct to 91 bypassing Sw21, I dialed in 82 out of curiosity and would intermittently (a second or two) get Locked- name not acquired. Then reverts to Wrong Sat- BEV 91.

BTW.. all dish adjustments (tweaking) were made on 91 for best possible signal, never attempted for a better signal on 82 as 80% seemed decent.

I have an inkling (guessing) it may be a skew problem but before I go back up the ladder for the 50th time, would sure appreciate any suggestions.

beamer,

It is normal to say that if you have 91 hooked up and have chosen the 82 satellite from signal meter screen.

Sounds like your issue is bad SW21 switch, or wire/connector problem when hooking into switch.

or wire/connector problem when hooking into switch.

Turned out to be the receiver connection on SW21. The center pin on the hardware store cable was not protruding into the SW far enough. I know this has been mentioned on an earlier post but worth repeating for rookies like myself. Make sure the center wire is at least 1/16 – 1/8 beyond the connector casing and use a good connector..

Thanks for your help!

Hello,

I am trying to get a better signal on satellite 82. I have the 9200 receiver. I setup the dish that came with the receiver to satellite 91. For satellite 82, i setup a channel master dish. i believe it is 3 feet in diameter with a dual lnb.

To find the signal on 82, i connected my receiver directly to the dish. The best i could get was 60% on transponder 11.

I do not get any signal on any of the even transponders.

i redid the connectors with compression connectors, tried other cables, still no luck. could it be the lnb?

Currently doing an install for a neighbor and I'm picking up a strong signal for SAT 91 on the LNB for 82. When I remove the LNB for 82 and pan using only the LNB for 91, I get nothing at all. I have swapped LNBs, cables, etc so I know it is not a bad LNB. My general thought is that if I am experiencing this situation, in order to pick up 91 on the 91 LNB I should have to pan about 9 degrees to the left (East) and a little bit down......does this seem correct to anyone? Any tips? FYI I am at 93% on transp 11 sat 91. My skew setting is according to the book. Using an SW44.

Are you following EXACTLY the sequence described in post 91? If so, perhaps try resetting the receiver by running "check switch" with no cables attached and then go through the sequence in post 91.